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Over the pass several weeks there have been some major athletes in several sporting events who refused to stand and reverence the flag durning the plege allegiance. And it's all over because America is "racist," and America is "sexist," and America isn't the "America" that they want.Let me tell you guys something. People have died, people have fought tooth and nail for equality, people have risked their lives and their tears and bleed just so that America could be free. Black people have fought hard for segregation to end, and slaves have at times fought hard to be free just to have the right to live in America and make something of themselves. Anyone who knows American History knows the hardships that people went through just for the right to say the Pleged of Allegiance. And not only the Plege of Allegiance but to sing our National Anthem about freedom and liberty and home of the brave.
America is the most bravest countries in the world because for the first time in history a war was fought for Liberty and for the first time and possibly the only time a war has ever been fought to END slavery. Anyone who reads the Declaration of Independence knows that if speaks nothing except freedom and liberty for ALL races, kindred and tongues.
I am not saying that we don't have problems, cause we do, what I am saying is that America today is going on a much different path than it was originally intended. To quote Abraham Lincoln lyceum Address
"At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."
I don't know how many of you see what I see. But I am seeing destruction of a great nation. And where did it come from? It came from amongst us and unless something is done America will fall by suicide. I'm not going to say more other than unless things change everything that was fought so hard for will end. And we will have nothing to blame but ourselves because of ignorance.
Here's the link to Lincolns Lyceum address:
www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/l…
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The USA.
The land of MEGALOMANIA.
Thinking they are America.
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"slavery ended so blacks have absolutely nothing to complain about ever"
'kay.
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Who are you quoting? I know I didn't say that. I agree that African Americans shouldn't pull the slavery card out anytime some one disagrees with them.
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America,land of the lucky,because of oil.
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I will agree with you that America is rich in many natural resources to include natural gas, but to simply say that America is the way that it is today because of luck is... grossly inflammatory.
America, like any other prospering nation, has worked for, bled for, fought for, created infrastructures, gone to war, and suffered to create what we have today.
It was lucky to have been born here, it was not luck that kept America what it is.
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I know,it's a great privilege to be born in America and by an extention,the entire Developed World,especially Scandinavia.
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Long live the ideas of Liberty and freedom that started The USA!
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"Fought for Freedom and Libert"
Terms and Conditions may apply.
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What do you mean by "terms and conditions may apply?"
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That liberty hardly was for everyone at first, and even today.
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That is false accusation, for if you would read the Declaration it clearly states and I quote;
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Huh? I see something right there in the quote. Just let me take a closer look at what it says. "Lib-er-ty." Well what do you know? Liberty IS a right that everyone on Earth is entitled to.
Now let's see what the definition of liberty is; "the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views."
So, our Founding Fathers wanted a country where people can be free from oppressive restrictions caused by other people's way of life, behavior or political views. That is amazing. I never knew any of this information until today.
Oh wait, you were thinking that anyone that wasn't white had no right to claim their unalienable Rights as human beings. Yes, I see. Let me just read through the rest of the Declaration and while I'm at it let me also read the Constitution of the United States. Yes, I'll be right back.
*15-20 minutes later*
Yeah, I see nothing that states "white European people only, non-European races need not apply" at all. Not one thing.
The only way for liberty not to be in effect today is if we allow our government to pass laws that take away freedom. Oh, wait we DID allow our government to pass laws that take away freedom. We allowed the government to keep inner city people to stay on welfare and be dependent on the government. We allowed social security to basically take over majority of our lives. Oh and we allow the government to increase in size and dictate every little thing we do in our lives.
If you mean that our liberty in our modern day and age is at stake, I agree with you 100%. I'm not being sarcastic when I say this either. But that is only if you are talking about today as in 2017.
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And I retort with the fact our nation had slaves. (And in a way this nation was built on slavery, thats why it was so hard for the south to switch during reconstruction, the infrastructure was made for slavery) Cant really pursue happiness when your considered property hm. And hard to pursue happiness when you cant vote (Which was most the population, only landowners could vote, of which most where white males, with some exceptions) George carlin said it best, think of the hypocrisy, we are a nation founded by slave owners who wanted to be free.
And what about the natives who constantly had their land stolen and their population killed off?
Liberty as a concept is much more nuanced then a person will like to admit, what is liberty to some is tyranny to others. Many free market conservatives think it's liberty to allow corporations and businesses to pay whatever they want to their worker, no matter how low. We see this in less developed nations like Bangladesh and others. Those workers will say otherwise, about how they cant live on cents an hour and the conditions are horrendous. But the conservative will still defend their "Liberty" to export labor to cheap markets.
To be honest, liberty as an idea is to abstract too cling to, or at least it's too moldable to the point where it's sometimes meaningless when any average joe can claim X Y or Z to be liberty.
And if you wanna talk about liberty still, think of this. People working 48 jobs or even 2 jobs can barely make it, thousands die from lack of healthcare and companies can gouge us for medicine. We have more people less homes then homeless people, and the people who caused the 08' crash have mostly gone unpunished. To many these are all injustices, but to many right wingers they say "So what" this again illustrates why "Muh Liberty" is a stupid argument.
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Yeah... I'm from Texas. and I have NEVER seen racism like I have in Virginia! Holly molly! And racism did exist, there is not denying it, but it has no relevance to today's people and MORE IMPORTANTLY, their OPPORTUNITIES.
Yup. That happened to. A great deal of terrible things have been committed by our great-great-grand fathers. Once again though, that was then, this is now. Those same people are enjoying the most freedom with absolutely no cost. The literal laws they get away with is staggering! There are actual murderers and rapists that escape back to their tribes (technically not American soil) and just live freely without any worry about the justice system. It is disgusting! New Mexico in particular has a MUGE problem with Native American criminals.
Ok... this comment was not even about America: next.
This is a stupid argument with no point to it. Yes, there is no clearly drawn line in the sand, but simply go to another country that has less "liberty" and it is pretty easy to see a difference. In Kuwait, for example, during the month of Ramadan it is ILLEGAL to break their fast in public (no matter what your religion is). www.arabianbusiness.com/-warni…
Good Lord I wish those responsible for the 08' crash would have been brought to justice, but wishing at gunna solve everything. You simply have to change what you can change and try to live with what you can't. Enjoy the freedoms and celebrate the nation that gives it to you while doing your part to fight for the best (current) political system on the planet. Don't agree? Find another country with more political, ecological, or economical pull. I'll wait. It's even more impressive considering just HOW YOUNG America is! I've going to religious services in buildings that have stood long than the USA has been a nation! Wow. We are children compared to empires like the UK, China, and Iran. And yet... the more powerful (influential) nation on the planet. Why? Because of our government. It my not be perfect (nobody distrusts the government more than conservatives) but still the best today (so far).
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"America is the most bravest countries in the world because for the first time in history a war was fought for Liberty and for the first time and possibly the only time a war has ever been fought to END slavery." - You're number one in bravery? Don't think so. You weren't the country to pull the most weight in WW1 or WW2 and "first war fought for liberty" my arse, you barely lived a hundred years under British rule, meanwhile INDIA, THE CONGO, HAITI???? Come on! Fucking American ego man. You're not #1 in bravery, freedom, happiness, quality of life, safety or anything of real importance.
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"You barely lived a hundred years under British rule," False. Jamestown was founded in 1607 and it was 1776 when the 13 colonies declared independence from England. So, for 169 years we lived under British rule. While India was 89 years of British rule. The Congo was under Belgium rule for 52 years. Hong Kong was under British rule for 156 years. Haiti was never under British rule but under the Spanish and the French rule.
Also if you don't believe in your country you don't deserve to live in it. I believe in America and I'll never leave and I'll live free or I'll die believe in freedom.
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America
A land built on genocide
America
Land where people claim the founders escaped religious persecution... And then persede to burn people alive for even being perseved as not being Christian.
America
Land that people think was discovered by a white man.
America
Land where the government overthrows democratically elected governments in other countries through the funding of dictators, militias and rebel grounds.
America
Land with the 2nd highest rates of obesity in the world.
America
Land were idiocy is idolised.
America
Land where war is the only chance of teaching people geography.
America
Land of undermining other countries national cinema efforts through exporting utter shit.
America
Land were people are scared of Muslims blowing them up, but overlook the epidemic of white teenage boys shooting innocent people.
America
Land of fucking up entire regions never mind countries.
America
Land of political and media circuses.
America
Land of people who don't even know they're despised universally.
America
Land of flags. So many fucking flags. Even countries going through independence movements don't have so many flags!
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Ridiculous. You mistake freedom for barbarism. America, land that people thought being free to kill aboriginal population with the permission of God.
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You do know that you are comparing the Spanish that came over from Spain and the fact that 70-80% of the Native Americans population was wiped out by diseases. There were little purging. Now I do acknowledge that treaties were broken with the Trails of Tears. But the Government has paid for that.
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Disease matter was not known by anybody. Spaniards married natives and gave rise to the mestizos. Anglo-Saxon massacred them and confined in reserves like animals.
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Wahh the natives got wiped out whaa the whites are evil blah blah blah i heard it all before no one cares it happened in the middle east Africa Asia and Europe the natives just got invited to meet imperialism.
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This can be prepended to the caption trivially: "Yet another..."
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Freedom for the rich and white. Everything else, the underprivileged had to fight for tooth and nail to get.
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Biggest lie ever then again you are an SJW
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Ah, it's the american taliban again. Nice to meetcha.
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American Taliban seriously this is just bad comedy now.
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Hey, given the incredible range of shared values between the taliban and american social conservatives...
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We have nothing in common Sweed but do try and list some thing so i can debunk them for you for i am all for Woman's rights and gay rights but i think you yourself think i think differently now enjoy your Islamic friends.
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My pleasure!
The american far right and talibans share the following things:
-Strongly opposed to abortion.
-Favouring a traditionalist, male-centred view on family life.
-Opposed to LGBT rights.
-Opposed to secularism.
-Opposed to women's rights.
-Reject established scientific facts if they clash with their world view (see evolution, global warming, etc etc).
-Strongly believe religion is key to living a moral life.
-Love of guns.
And that's just off the top of my head.
Now, if you don't share some of the above, it just means you're less of an ignorant, theocratic, sanctimonious hillbilly asshole.
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You know one of the reasons why Rome fell is because the people started practicing Homosexuality. While it's not the main cause it played a huge part. In fact if you study other great and powerful civilizations you'd find that homosexuality was one of the causes. While I don't support LGBT marriage laws I do support that they shouldn't be discriminated just by being gay. I also disagree that bathrooms/locker-rooms should be free rein to transsexuals to use. (I.E girls can use boy bathrooms and boys can use girls bathroom, e.c.t.) Because that is opening up a door that will bring in a whole lot of problems.
Also FYI when you talk about the far right you are talking about Fascism not Republicans. Because the political spectrum is Communism on the far left and Fascism on the far right and Democracy in the middle. Then you have socialism on the left side (not far left where Communism is at but slightly above Communism,) and you have liberalism before that. Then on the right you have Libertarianism before Fascism and then Conservative before that.
If you study history you'll find out that the Republicans have stood up for Women's right and that the Suffragettes were all registered Republicans. Also what is wrong with guns? The Second Amendment is what kept Japan from invading the United States during World War 2. Not only that but the Second Amendment is important in keeping our civil rights. No free state ever lasted long without the right to bare arms.
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>You know one of the reasons why Rome fell is because the people started practicing Homosexuality. While it's not the main cause it played a huge part. In fact if you study other great and powerful civilizations you'd find that homosexuality was one of the causes.
Autism speaks. It's time to stop
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What are you implying!? Is it fun to make fun of people with Autism!? I am OFFENDED AT YOUR COMMENT CUTESTSITH!!
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>What are you implying!?
Lots of things. Many of them go over your head.
>Is it fun to make fun of people with Autism!?
Not anymore than any other group. Nothing s sacred or safe in the realms of comedy.
>I am OFFENDED AT YOUR COMMENT CUTESTSITH!!
Then unrustle your jimmies. I'm sure others have been offended at half-assed stuff you did without you realizing and vice versa. Save being offended for a time where it matters.
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I have younger siblings with autism. You can make fun at me all you want I don't care. But that Autism comment was uncalled for. I don't deliberately make fun of people. I've NEVER called anyone retarded. I've used the word "ignorance" in the past but that's not a derogatory term.
"I'm sure others have been offended at half-assed stuff you did"
It's not offensive if it's the truth ok. If people get offended for me using the Fist Amendment rights of Freedom of Speech, then they have no business trying to tell me I'm wrong. It's just like black people saying things like "Oh you hate my hair? Then you are a racist!" Black people CANNOT say the words "racist" without being racist themselves. The same goes for white people. I had so many people say that I am "racist" just because I did NOT support Obama during his election and re-election. The word "Racist" is a taboo against truth, because the Lord Almighty knows what happens if we "offend" somebody. All it takes for one person to be offended and a tradition of praying in school gets kicked outside of the window. Because "goodness we don't want that one student who doesn't believe in God to be offended. Let's just get rid of prayer in schools." Cause you know someone out in the world will be offended by the "Pledge of Allegiance" complain and soon the "Pledge of Allegiance" won't ever be said in school or anywhere in the United States anymore.
And if you are offended by what I said, just do what I am going to reply to you next time you send me a message. Nothing. Don't reply back cause I am not replying back to you. No, you did not win me "over" if that's what you are looking for. You just ain't worth my time. Especially since I know that people like you will say something like "Your the biggest racist I've ever meet." Just to get me all defensive and say things like "I'm not a racist, I love black people." Just for you to say "if you aren't a racist then why didn't you vote for Obama?" And for me to say "I hate his politics" and for you to say "No. You just hate him because he's black."
Thus is the start of an never ending cycle of arguments that shouldn't have started because you refuse to back away and say "you have your opinion and I have mine." Cause that's a whole lot simpler to say and I would have agreed and we could have gone out for lunch together. Instead it goes the other way and everyone is miserable.
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>I have younger siblings with autism. You can make fun at me all you want I don't care. But that Autism comment was uncalled for. I don't deliberately make fun of people. I've NEVER called anyone retarded. I've used the word "ignorance" in the past but that's not a derogatory term.
And I am autistic. Shits I give are zero.
>It's not offensive if it's the truth ok. If people get offended for me using the Fist Amendment rights of Freedom of Speech, then they have no business trying to tell me I'm wrong. It's just like black people saying things like "Oh you hate my hair? Then you are a racist!" Black people CANNOT say the words "racist" without being racist themselves. The same goes for white people. I had so many people say that I am "racist" just because I did NOT support Obama during his election and re-election. The word "Racist" is a taboo against truth, because the Lord Almighty knows what happens if we "offend" somebody. All it takes for one person to be offended and a tradition of praying in school gets kicked outside of the window. Because "goodness we don't want that one student who doesn't believe in God to be offended. Let's just get rid of prayer in schools." Cause you know someone out in the world will be offended by the "Pledge of Allegiance" complain and soon the "Pledge of Allegiance" won't ever be said in school or anywhere in the United States anymore.
And if you are offended by what I said, just do what I am going to reply to you next time you send me a message.
Actually not offended in the slightest. You on the other hand? You seem to exhibiting a big case of butthutt.
>And if you are offended by what I said, just do what I am going to reply to you next time you send me a message. Nothing. Don't reply back cause I am not replying back to you. No, you did not win me "over" if that's what you are looking for. You just ain't worth my time. Especially since I know that people like you will say something like "Your the biggest racist I've ever meet." Just to get me all defensive and say things like "I'm not a racist, I love black people." Just for you to say "if you aren't a racist then why didn't you vote for Obama?" And for me to say "I hate his politics" and for you to say "No. You just hate him because he's black."
>Implying I like Obama, voted for him, or endorse him.
Wow I didn't even say anything and you went on an autistic rampage. I don't even like Obama and I'm on your side on that issue yet you went full tard on me.
>Thus is the start of an never ending cycle of arguments that shouldn't have started because you refuse to back away and say "you have your opinion and I have mine." Cause that's a whole lot simpler to say and I would have agreed and we could have gone out for lunch together. Instead it goes the other way and everyone is miserable.
Ummm no. I made one simple comment. I was fishing for bait son but you... you're special. You went all out.
<---- Dramatization by Patrick Star of your lolcow worthy actions in this thread. You assumed and and acted like a triggered spaztic when we were on the same fucking side and you made an a ass of u and... well actually just you. In other words you got triggered over nothing.
Tip harder faggot.
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You are entirely clueless about history. Rome fell for a number of reasons- claiming more territory than they could effectively defend, corruption among their upper classes, germanic and hunnic wars... and among those reasons, not a single reputable historian would ever list homosexuality. You fail. Go back to school.
No, I'm talking about regular old republicans like Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, etc etc. These people are pretty fascist, I'll admit, but they are exactly the far right I'm talking about.
"If you study history you'll find out that the Republicans have stood up for Women's right"
PFAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. I've heard this excuse before about slavery- "Lincoln was a republican", they cry, either ignorant of the fact that republicans were once progressives while the democrats were conservative, and that their party lines later shifted, or just dishonestly deceptive. Conservatism has always been the enemy of the underprivileged. Whenever there has been any positive change to make life better for people, conservatives have opposed it kicking and screaming. For example, conservatives opposed:
Seceding from Britain.
Ending slavery.
Worker's rights.
Women's rights.
Civil rights.
LGBT rights (HEY LOOK, THEY STILL DO!).
And that's just off the top of my head. Conservatism is unambiguously a cancer on the world.
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It's obviously that YOU bought the lies that the leftist have cooked up. For one Abraham Lincoln WAS a Republican because he became the first Republican President. And if you study on his life you'd found out that he was against slavery. In fact Lincoln wanted to send the African Americans back to Africa. However he wasn't going to force them to leave. Also Fredrick Douglas after meeting Abraham Lincoln always spoke very highly about him.
Unfortunately schools have become corrupt about American History. But not only that but I doubt that Sweden knows a lot about American History. I have studied American History for a long time. While yes our country had things that were wrong, like slavery, it doesn't mean that our Founding Fathers were idiots. In the early days of the newly founded American Country slavery couldn't have been outlawed. Not without tearing apart the union. They wrote the Constitution knowing that someday Slavery would dissolve. And a war was fought 83 years after the founding of America.
Tell me. Did a war to end slavery happen before the America Civil War? If there was then I would have to consider the Civil War a fluke. Cause if it wasn't about keeping a union together and ending slavery, then I was born in the wrong country?
Just so you know, I hate it when someone who lives outside America tells me about how I should view my OWN country. Unless you studied here in America or you were born here in America, I'm sorry but what you believe is to be the so called "true America" is invalid. Because anyone who truly knows American History would know that everything you said is false.
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the republicans weren't always neocon cucks. now that's a democrap lie that you've bought.
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Ah yes, every fact that disagrees with your narrative is a "leftist lie". What a comfortable, convenient world view that must be.
And yes, Abe was the first republican president. And yes, he was against slavery. And no, he was not a conservative, but a progressive. This is exactly what I just said. My point wasn't "LINCOLN WUS RAYCISS DURR HURR", it was "The republican party were progressive back in the day, and later the parties shifted position". Pay attention, will you?
I agree. They don't teach you nearly as much about American corruption, imperialism and exploitation of other countries as they should.
"I doubt Sweden knows a lot about American History"
I am not the country of Sweden. I am a single Swedish individual who knows enough about 'murican history to know it's grimy and shameful.
I didn't even mention the civil war. No point I made was related to it. Stay on topic, if you're capable.
Because clearly, the "america #1" world view is fair, balanced and factual, amirite?
Not a single thing I just said was false. Conservatism opposed each and every one of the things I mentioned- and, by the way, my point was about conservatism and how it's cancerous, not about the US itself- and that's a fact.
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Yet i'm a redneck who doesn't care about abortion i think we need a high population so a nuclear family is needed for the American middle class to survive and even thrive but i don't care if a woman gets an abortion it's not my family not my problem one less problem to deal with one less spoiled useless child to deal with my family but i do think if you get atleast twenty to thirty abortions just stop and get your tubes tide already cause it seems by that point , that the woman would never want a child like ever so just get surgery not have children cause by then your just wasting money.
I think Secularism is one of the best things in the united states as an agnostic person however i do hate Islam for how backwards it is i belive Muslims can modernize into American society but Islamics hell no there brainwashed.
Of course I support Bi's lesbians and Gays however i think Trans people are ridiculous there are only two genders however there are exceptions like rare birth defects then again anything can happen.
I love my guns for the sheer fact my love of hunting also the fact that i can help the military in case of an attack or i can join a local militia to help in a revolution if need be plus i love to build them modify them and clean them it's just like my love for trucks and Robots.
I belive Religion is just there if people want it anyone can be a very good person religion or otherwise.
Global warming doesn't exist i think your thinking of climate change which does exist actually ,but we can't reverse it it's already too late but we could reverse it in the future it would take centuries to reverse the changes that happened but this isn't the first time something like this happened there have been many world ending events on this planet we call home,terra,earth etc etc we only accelerated it by 10% our actions are very little when compared to what the sun or mother nature can do.
Trust me if yellow stone were to erupt we'd all die within five years we tested over two thousand nuclear bombs and we have not suffered a nuclear winter from the amount of bombs fired off but i do belive coal and oil are outdated when compared to better alternative energy sources like Fuel cells green oil Geothermal energy Fission reactors hydro plants and fusion reactors.
Wind Turbines and solar panels are worth less to our energy needs and they harm the enviornment so i'd say just build more reactors.
Evolution has always existed and it can be manipulated easily for our purposes.
I'm a Conservative in the sense of the preserving the Nation's culture history Laws Libertarian ideologies and people.
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I could barely make out a single coherent sentence from that paragraph. In essence, you're sorta not against abortion? Good for you, buddy. Have a cookie.
Entirely ignorant of the larger majority of moderate muslims, I see, or how many of them are integrated in western society.
You go so far as being okay with gay people? Hmmkay. I take it back- you're not an american taliban. Still a cunt, though.
So you have a hobby. Good for you.
Good on you.
Global warming is climate change. The scientific opinion on this is unambiguous- while climate change is a natural process, humans have undoubtedly sped up the process and this will have catastrophic repercussions in the future.
Not incorrect, but I'm not sure what yellowstone has to do with this.
Wind turbines and solar panels harm the environment? That's rich.
"Evolution has always existed"
Correct. For as long as life has existed, at least.
"it can be manipulated easily for our purposes"
No, it can't. When we meddle with genetics, that's genetic engineering and falls well outside of natural evolution.
Libertarian, not fundie fucknut. Gotcha. Sorry for calling you a taliban- I mean, I still think your opinions are shit, but at least you're not like, say, Rick Perry or Rick Santorum.
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Meh you and the scientific community call it Genetic engineering i call it just giving evolution a push in the right direction.
On Yellowstone i'm saying if it erupts then we will all die it's more of a problem then climate change in actuality it could erupt at any time.
Nuclear geo thermal and green algae oil is more efficient then solar and wind which takes up too much space and coudn't power up a city in the united states maybe in Europe but American cities are based around industrialism meaning there more spread out for large populations which will require more energy.
Plus wind Turbines are only good for buildings and small towns that are isolated off the power grid same with Solar panels good for small houses and outposts not for cities.
I said Islamics not Muslims i can see Muslims intigrate well but Islam well Islam should just stay in the dark ages where it belongs.
Also on the repercussions , they could be fixed in the future but it would take centuries to repair but i think we should just keep draining the remaining oil wells intill there gone and then stop and then we replace our energy sources. Meh i could never like Fundies nor Neo cons i just want my Nation to be safe.
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