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Atebitninja In reply to Niners01916 [2012-06-09 02:35:21 +0000 UTC]

Awesome! I was afraid the GMesh was becoming a lost art...

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Niners01916 In reply to Atebitninja [2012-06-09 23:58:06 +0000 UTC]

Maybe for some, who don't have the patience....but not for me. As a designer, I want to be skilled in several different styles.

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Atebitninja In reply to theyellowcoyote [2012-06-03 23:54:06 +0000 UTC]

Illustrator has come a loooong way since I started working in it, it amazes my how powerful a tool it has become. If you have CS5 you can check out the mesh for the nose/cheek here: [link]

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theyellowcoyote In reply to Atebitninja [2012-06-05 01:29:22 +0000 UTC]

Yep, it is definitely mind-boggling!

Thanks for the link, I will check it out

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Atebitninja In reply to Maarika [2012-06-03 00:23:05 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I wish I could estimate the time. I jump around from file to file (I get 'stuck' a lot and have to start up a new one. Then when I figure out how to do what I do, I jump back!

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Atebitninja In reply to DeviantJC [2012-06-03 00:23:41 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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DeviantJC In reply to Atebitninja [2012-06-12 15:38:13 +0000 UTC]

no problem

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Atebitninja In reply to tommyb709 [2012-06-03 00:24:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Atebitninja In reply to cissy [2012-06-03 00:24:33 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Ernie-Parcon In reply to janegiraffe [2012-06-01 03:26:35 +0000 UTC]

haha. kind of. haha

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Atebitninja In reply to janegiraffe [2012-05-31 23:06:53 +0000 UTC]

I used the Gradient Mesh tool with the goal of 'Photo Realism'...

See the wireframe here: [link]

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eyeqandy In reply to Atebitninja [2012-06-02 20:48:07 +0000 UTC]

I can see the wireframe screen shots of some of your work that is classified as vector, but as a long time vector artist myself, and as I said the other day under another drawing of yours classified as vector, I know of no way of reproducing fine details such as skin pores (especially in the highlights on her right cheek) or fine lines on people's foreheads, even by using Illustrator's mesh tool, unless Adobe updated the mesh tool in version 5 some way that I'm unaware of; I could read up on that, I guess.

I know the gradient mesh tool can be used for convincing, photo realistic skin tones, but I don't see how one gets pores and fine lines (skin wrinkles) with it. That kind of detail work is more the province of Photoshop.

I do agree with a previous poster that this looks more like a digital painting or manipulated photo. If you used Photoshop in conjunction with Illustrator, that's fine, but I would think that would be classified as 'mixed digital media,' rather than 'vector'.

Maybe you could provide us with more screen shots of these vector pieces, ones showing the gradient mesh alone, and/or in conjunction with any masks or layers with this drawing, or something like that?

If you're on the up and up about this (and I sure hope you are), I'd like to see how it's done so I can maybe give it a try myself in the future, on future vector drawings.

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Atebitninja In reply to eyeqandy [2012-06-03 00:45:53 +0000 UTC]

I've uploaded an .ai file with some of the Pore'd and Wrinkled GMesh sections into my scraps (CS5): [link]

Download the ZIP file

You can also download the Mena Suvari Portrait as well: [link]

I'd actually upload all the AI files but I'd been burned by doing that in the past... I just do this stuff in my spare time for the challenge so the files just sit on my machine after I'm done.

Have Fun!

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eyeqandy In reply to Atebitninja [2012-06-03 02:44:56 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the links, but I can't seem to open the first one (I haven't tried the second one).

The zip folder I downloaded is empty, and the file on my desktop that came with that folder is showing up as something called a ".part" file, not an AI file.

I have version 4 of AI, not 5, so I don't know if I could even open a v 5.

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Atebitninja In reply to eyeqandy [2012-06-03 03:15:00 +0000 UTC]

Strange. Other people have been able to download and open the ZIP just fine... Let me know if the second one doesn't work for you. The only thing I'm using in CS5 that CS4 didn't have is the ability to control the transparency of different points on a single mesh. It may open, but if it does, the seams between shapes aren't going to blend well.

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Atebitninja In reply to AngstromAlliance [2012-05-31 21:02:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Atebitninja In reply to ohemjayy [2012-05-31 21:04:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! That's why I started working in gray-scale. It's easier to deal with shades of gray when working in the detail.

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ohemjayy In reply to Atebitninja [2012-05-31 22:35:55 +0000 UTC]

that makes a lot of sense. you could probably still make a super awesome one in color, though. i just find trying to make all of the colors and details go where i want them to so frustrating. how long have you been making meshes?

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Atebitninja In reply to ohemjayy [2012-05-31 23:08:39 +0000 UTC]

I first started using the gradient mesh tool in Illustrator 8, so some time in '99 I think.

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ohemjayy In reply to Atebitninja [2012-06-01 15:04:36 +0000 UTC]

wow, you've certainly had a lot of practice then. how long does it take you to make one?

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Atebitninja In reply to ohemjayy [2012-06-03 00:30:58 +0000 UTC]

I have no clue. Sometimes they sit unfinished for several months, sometimes I can get thru them in a few days.

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ohemjayy In reply to Atebitninja [2012-06-03 21:17:29 +0000 UTC]

yeah, makes sense what with how busy you are and how much you feel like working on it. they're all really cool though. i love looking through them.

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Atebitninja In reply to Justa-Watcher49 [2012-05-31 21:06:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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