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Acronas [2013-06-03 11:39:40 +0000 UTC]
that helmet reminds me of someone familiar.....so familiar
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AuraXtreme [2013-03-27 04:47:22 +0000 UTC]
Why the HELL did I not fave this? I just gotta say it again:
Oh.
My.
Shit.
You made Xion's armour look hot.
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uxantro [2013-03-03 22:50:17 +0000 UTC]
Ok, quick run down:
1: thank you for standing up for xion. she needs support against the haters, and I find myself... uncomfortable with posting on DA yet.
2: I love the picture. it... it brought me to tears when I first saw it.
3: You made a point with why xemnas might care. and after 3d, it totally seems plausible.
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Angelo-Inferno [2013-01-04 05:25:46 +0000 UTC]
No Xion, don't dissapear, NOOOOOO!!!!!!
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ava-tobiax [2012-05-20 06:01:35 +0000 UTC]
Poor baby. We'll remember you. And you're there every time Sora remembers Kairi.
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AuraXtreme [2012-05-12 22:22:18 +0000 UTC]
Oh.
My.
Shit.
You just made Xion's armour look hot.
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Leri-chan [2012-04-12 17:56:11 +0000 UTC]
This picture is so sad...
i cried when Xion died.
I really hope Sora can help her and all the other people who are lost in the darkness
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AX0RT [2012-03-31 10:45:11 +0000 UTC]
nooooo xioon DX TT__TT
if only she not transform her face when being controlled against roxas
he wont stand a chance lol XD
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DekuDragon [2012-03-23 17:11:07 +0000 UTC]
I donΒ΄t mind Xion. In some moments i actually really liked her. I donΒ΄t know why someone would hate her. She dosenΒ΄t really do anything "bad" in the game.
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NightofRome [2012-03-06 22:56:04 +0000 UTC]
one day we all fade into the darkness, its not a quesion of when or where but a question of how many you'll take with you.
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nickie083100 [2012-02-18 16:04:50 +0000 UTC]
ive NEVER once hated xion, i loved her when i first saw her! XD this pic made me want to cry! its so beautiful and sad
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AX0RT [2012-02-17 19:13:22 +0000 UTC]
TT__TT i will always remember you xion no matter how you look DX
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Tada-no-Yume [2012-02-17 07:58:08 +0000 UTC]
I really love Xion as a character.
For me she seems a lot stronger than Namine or Kairi.
Thank you for posting this!
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digipinky75910 [2012-02-16 21:41:33 +0000 UTC]
Beautiful art and comments.
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chazzymoto [2012-02-08 21:01:25 +0000 UTC]
This is why I love Xion, she made her friends forget her for their sake.
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Tsukasa57 [2012-02-07 12:04:44 +0000 UTC]
wow
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dfox20 [2012-02-03 20:52:43 +0000 UTC]
I love this picture and she is my favorite! XD i'm really glad to see someone who doesn't hate Xion. She is cloned but for Xehanorts use. She appears close to Kairi and is a girl because of how strong Soras memories are of Kairi. Good work. This makes me want to attempt a sprite of her armored XD
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CombotheBeehen [2012-02-02 18:07:44 +0000 UTC]
I'm feel so sad if she is gone foever, I like her very much for the final story on Days.
Useless? Naaaaah, no reason by some people is stupid :/.
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XxSokuxX [2012-01-29 21:58:17 +0000 UTC]
I've tried many times to accept and even like Xion, but it just never happend for me. Nicely done drawing though.
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Onigiri-nii [2012-01-29 18:19:36 +0000 UTC]
I absolutely love this~ <3
btw Just looking at her mask makes me feel like I would poke my nose on the end very hard xD I don't know why that immediately comes to mind but oh well
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OnionRingz64 [2012-01-29 01:55:52 +0000 UTC]
I honestly don't understand why people hate her, I think she's just adorable. :/
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metaXzero In reply to OnionRingz64 [2013-02-12 20:53:59 +0000 UTC]
Yaoi fangirls being idiots and calling they don't like Mary Sues. That pretty much covers the ones who dedicate unhealthy time to hating her.
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DrakenTheWolf In reply to metaXzero [2013-10-08 00:37:46 +0000 UTC]
how is Xion a Mary sue anyway?
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metaXzero In reply to DrakenTheWolf [2013-10-08 03:45:02 +0000 UTC]
She isn't. Mary Sue tends to be used as a buzzword for female characters people don't like. Kinda like autism is the buzzword for fandoms one doesn't like. They take no account of the actual definition of the words.
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DrakenTheWolf In reply to metaXzero [2013-10-08 21:05:34 +0000 UTC]
But in reality a Mary Sue is a perfect picture of perfectness right?
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metaXzero In reply to DrakenTheWolf [2013-10-09 02:54:27 +0000 UTC]
Not exactly. That's a trait of the classic Mary Sue (the perfected perfect person that perfectly does perfect things), but not what the defining Mary Sue trait. The defining traits of a Sue is that they derail an established story and bring all focus onto them even when it makes no logical sense and that regardless of their actions, they are never wrong or held accountable for actions. Whether they are Ms. Perfect or Lady Imperfect, the other characters won't stop dropping IQ points when Mary Sue is around
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DrakenTheWolf In reply to metaXzero [2013-10-10 12:57:52 +0000 UTC]
Then if a main character is a girl then she's a Mary Sue?Β
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metaXzero In reply to DrakenTheWolf [2013-10-10 14:19:55 +0000 UTC]
Again, not exactly. Then you have a justified reason for the action following the character. But being the main character doesn't mean everyone has to grovel at their feet or that every decision they make is right.
Also, males can be Sues as well. Though the proper term is Stus (short for Marty Stu).
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DrakenTheWolf In reply to metaXzero [2013-10-10 14:36:13 +0000 UTC]
But most main characters do extraordinary things, sometimes including some of the things you named,and if the things are really simple.
Plus most people call Xion one cuz other people do. Β A person is smart, but people are stupid. Β In most cases...Β
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metaXzero In reply to DrakenTheWolf [2013-10-11 04:26:21 +0000 UTC]
Its not simply about doing extraordinary things. Just like its not simply about being the main character the story follows.Β Like I said, the key thing about Sues is them inexplicably causing the plot to wrap around them in a manner favorable to them.
And again with Xion, its people using Mary Sue as a buzzword for female characters a person just doesn't like for whatever reason (even inane reasons like shipping).
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DrakenTheWolf In reply to metaXzero [2013-10-11 12:44:43 +0000 UTC]
huh interesting, I didn't know that much about them...Β
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metaXzero In reply to DrakenTheWolf [2013-10-12 05:54:48 +0000 UTC]
tvtropes has a decent article on Mary Sues. I think Wikipedia has one too.
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AmuletStar [2012-01-28 21:48:21 +0000 UTC]
Awww, poor Xion. I do kinda like her, although I'm not a huge fan. But that's mostly because I don't know that much about her. Awesome picture though~ Where does the outfit come from?
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ssceles In reply to AmuletStar [2012-01-29 01:01:19 +0000 UTC]
Well... This picture is her armor: [link]
SPOILERS?
Xemnas 'reprograms' her and turns her against Roxas, so he thinks. Xion wanted Roxas to win to begin with, but if she didn't give it her all, Xemnas probably threatened her. Because they are connected, they needed to fight and one of them needed to lose to 'absorb' the other. She wanted Roxas to be the one to get away, so she needed to be the one to fight him and lose, not let Xemnas attack him, weaken him, and force her to be the one to absorb him instead of him absorbing her and escaping Xemnas. Only Roxas could help Sora wake up and at full strength stand a chance at defeating Xemnas. That's basically how I understand it? She is, aside from Riku, the final boss that Roxas fights.
So this is, basically, her boss armor without the helment.
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AmuletStar In reply to ssceles [2012-01-29 14:37:57 +0000 UTC]
...I can see very much why you left the helmet off. XD
Interesting backstory. Poor Xion, she really doesn't have much luck. Judging by her personality though, i can imagine that she'd want Roxas to win really.
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wiiman46 [2012-01-28 21:44:06 +0000 UTC]
awww love it
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FermonsNosYeux [2012-01-28 21:26:38 +0000 UTC]
I completely agree with you!! Thank you so much for defending her character!! I feel like so many people hate on her for no reason, or really ignorant reasons! I respect all opinion but the amount of hate for Xion is just RIDICULOUS, and downright illogical. I sometimes think if she was made a guy and not a girl she would have far less haters....
anyways, xion is a great character, and this picture is lovely!! great work ^^
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ssceles In reply to FermonsNosYeux [2012-01-29 00:53:15 +0000 UTC]
I think so, too. But in the end they simply weren't thinking about how the fans would react, I think. They wanted someone connected to Sora and Sora already has so many others connected to him. Roxas and Ventus, Sora and Vanitas, Namine and... hmm, maybe we need another female connected to Kairi? That's probably all the further they thought into it. *chuckle*
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Suffering-Angel In reply to ssceles [2012-01-29 13:56:10 +0000 UTC]
Nomura admitted he had Xion look like Kairi to throw us off the scent of her true relations. It was more "how do we keep them guessing?" "I know, let's connect her to a character that doesn't matter at all plot-wise!"
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FermonsNosYeux In reply to ssceles [2012-01-29 03:41:08 +0000 UTC]
darn >^< i bet they are very sad her reception was like that ;^; its a shame... i hope she really kicks ass in 3ds and puts haters in their place Dπ: 0 β©: 0
Suffering-Angel [2012-01-28 20:39:52 +0000 UTC]
I must say I love you for your comment, and you do bring a very interesting point about Xemnas's interests in the Replica program. Though seeing how Repliku was not only stable but also "exclusive" to Riku, I'd sooner blame Xion's instability on how messed up Sora's existence is, less so an active goal for Xemnas to seek out. She's a Sora replica. And Sora is Sora and Roxas and Ven and Vanitas. Her also being in part Riku (Snarl of Memories~~~) might just be explained depending on Riku's connections to Vanitas (hello Darkness suit). So yeah.
That aside, THANK YOU for bringing Namine up. Namine ACTUALLY did what a lot of people said Xion does - she was thrown at us, SUDDENLY being best buds with Riku and Sora, and actively came between them. And no one said anything because by the time people played CoM, most likely KHII was already out so they knew why CoM was important.
Days didn't get its KHII yet. And Xion didn't suddenly become friends with Roxas and Axel - heck, Roxas needed time to open up to her, and Axel was distant to downright cold at first. It was built much better than Namine's "oh hey guys I just remembered I forgot the girl I love the most!" which was... what? Sure, Namine had a good reason for this but it doesn't change 1) that it was still Namine's introduction into the series, 2) that Xion is NOT like this.
Meh. Nothing more to add other than thank you, again :3
This aside.
The drawing gives me the shivers o.o poor Xion ;A;
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ssceles In reply to Suffering-Angel [2012-01-29 00:49:36 +0000 UTC]
I somehow knew that if you'd find this you'd leave a comment. As I was writing that down, remembering that most people who complained about Xion weren't even around to complain about Namine and so never had a problem with her, I did think of you, specifically. There are just as many legitimate reasons, if not more, to potentially dislike Namine. I don't personally take issue with either girl, though. Eventually it all makes sense, even if it doesn't seem like it, and their places will, hopefully, prove integral later on. If not... then the series suddenly becomes less of a continuous plot and more of a collection of one shots storylines. It should be like that saying 'If there's a gun or a knife in the first scene, someone should at least try to use it by the end of the movie', if you're familiar with that. xD
As for the first bit... Yes, Repliku was far more stable than Xion, but as you said, that's because he was based on one singular person, whereas Xion is based on conglomeration of entities that made up Sora. The Riku bit was interesting, I admit, but the connection there may be closer related to Xehanort than just Vanitas. On the same vein of thought that Xehanort has a piece of himself in Braig/Xigbar, he likely had a piece in Vanitas. Who is in Sora. Then there was Riku, whom Repliku was made from, but wasn't Ansem sitting in his heart as well? Is that just one more reason for Repliku's unbalanced affinity towards darkness? Because he was thoroughly fused with a copy of Ansem of his own? Xehanort has the potential to be absolutely everywhere, including inside of Sora because of Vanitas, and they definitely need to play into that.
The scene where Xion holds Riku's memories is specifically strange, but definitely location triggered. If there is one connection Xion has to Riku, it's Xehanort's inevitable involvement inside of both of them. Even two completely different remnants of Xehanort can resonate around one another. Xion remembering something Xehanort remembers wouldn't be any different than her remember something of Sora's life.
In the end I think Xemnas honestly didn't realize that Sora was so messed up inside, or that any surviving remnant of Xehanort honestly believed any shred of Vanitas still existed. His hair was remarkably similar, it's true, and Xion would have proved he was still there - and now look, Vanitas is back with Xehanort in the trailer. It all lead up to that, but the connecting points are so buried in speculation that not many people are going to believe a lick of it until there's solid in-game proof. There's probably never to be any explanation for it and they should get used to that from this series, by now. We come up with our own explanations. *chuckle* I could be completely wrong about many things, and hey, I admit that. But the speculation looks legit on paper?
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Suffering-Angel In reply to ssceles [2012-01-29 04:57:05 +0000 UTC]
Remind me again, how you know me? XD;
And yes, I'm familiar with the phrase about the gun in the first scene and I agree. Thankfully Nomura seems to be living up to this for the most part so far.
You bring an interesting part about the Xehanort pieces, but I personally tend to relate what happened so far to Vanitas and Ven being connected to Riku and Sora than Xehanort. It would explain in a much more legitimate way the Tug-O-War that happened with the Keyblade between the boys in KH1, if they were utilizing Van and Ven's connection over Xehanort pieces. If only because then, what's keeping Xemnas from pulling the Keyblade away from Sora and/or Riku? Nothing. But if you say it's the Ven-Van relation it all falls comfortably into place. I'd also like for them to keep Xehanort away from Sora as they seemed to be doing so far. Sora has his own take about his Darkness and bringing Xehanort into this would ruin it to me. I know that the Van-Riku theory isn't as likely as I'd like for it to be, but that's my view on the matter until I see something else that more robustly disproves it.
Xion remembering something Xehanort remembers wouldn't be any different than her remember something of Sora's life
Only I disagree because we never saw Xion remembering anything of Xehanort's. Whereas we know that her goal, her given goal was to replica Sora and or/Roxas. Though to be precise, I wouldn't be surprised if Xemnas picked up some of Riku's Memories when he was in Hollow Bastion in the first Final Mix, thus giving Xion ample reason to eventually absorb Riku's Memories - all she needed was to be next to him, much like how she was next to Roxas all this time.
I've nothing more to add since I stay away from the trailers as one would an open flame xD
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ssceles In reply to Suffering-Angel [2012-01-29 07:18:59 +0000 UTC]
I've talked to you here and there, months and months apart usually. You're quite opinionated when it comes to things like Kairi and Namine so you're hard to forget. xD
Mmm, what's stopping Xemnas from stealing their Keyblade? Maybe the fact he himself does not have one any longer. I would say it's because he does not have a heart, but that's not quite so easy to do because then I'd have to explain why Xion and Roxas are exceptions. I believe the tug-of-war between Sora and Riku in KH1 had more to do with with Riku's promise to Terra that he'd use his power to protect things the things that mattered - Sora. The rest of it's been sufficiently explained in interviews (although partially retconned thanks to Ventus). The Keyblade Roxas has is, in my mind, Ven's, and Sora's Keyblade is Sora's - and he obtained it from Riku, not because of Ven just magically being inside him. Xion only seemed to have a key when either Roxas or Sora was in a deep sleep, but Sora and Roxas each had the Keyblade at the same time, as Days and CoM ran on the same initial timeline. Roxas and Sora can both gain the ability to dual-wield. (I'd bring up the KH2FM fight between Sora and Roxas and the ability for that fight, and that fight only, that allowed Sora to wield -three- keys at once, but it's hardly worth mentioning because that fight was such a stretch/mindfuck anyway. Sora's on one end with three keys out, Roxas on the other with two out, that's a total of five keys and it doesn't begin to make sense unless Sora, Roxas, Xion, Ventus and Vanitas each have their own keys completely independently of one another - and I'm pretty sure they don't/can't all exist at once.)
Xion is quite interesting. She can be looked at in two different ways: a very mixed up failed Sora clone, or, not a Sora clone whatsoever, just a creation that gleans memories in general. I don't think I'll ever be quite sure why she had Riku's memory. But what I definitely don't see is a solid connection between Riku and Vanitas in any way except that both knew a form of Xehanort. Incidentally, Riku had his dark armor before he let Ansem control him completely. We're definitely missing something off screen - how and where did Riku obtain that ability? Perhaps another prior confrontation with Ansem, much like the other additional scene we got in Coded from when the islands were destroyed. Xehanort may have simply designed both outfits and the similarities only exist because of his fashion sense. xD
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Suffering-Angel In reply to ssceles [2012-01-29 08:34:56 +0000 UTC]
I was hoping I'd become a bit less infamous as I'm relatively inactive lately xD oh well.
Mmm, what's stopping Xemnas from stealing their Keyblade? Maybe the fact he himself does not have one any longer.
Only he most likely does, as is implied by the last several interviews I read. He simply chose to use Roxas and Xion instead of do the dirty job himself. Then we have the interesting concept of needing to reach inside Riku and Sora to be able to pull the Keyblade out - which is why I'm such a supporter of the Riku-Van theory. If Riku's related to Vanitas, Sora housing Ven would give him access to Riku's Keyblade via "the twins". Sora->Ven->Van->Riku. Xemnas wouldn't have that.
I believe the tug-of-war between Sora and Riku in KH1 had more to do with with Riku's promise to Terra that he'd use his power to protect things the things that mattered - Sora.
I fail to see how a promise could mechanise anything like this. They're irrelevant to me.
The Keyblade Roxas has is, in my mind, Ven's, and Sora's Keyblade is Sora's - and he obtained it from Riku, not because of Ven just magically being inside him.
The way I see it, Ven helped in the sense that he let Sora Wield to begin with. He didn't give him a Keyblade, mind, that was only utilized when Roxas Duel Wielded thanks to Xion. But there was no reason why Sora should've been able to even hold a Keyblade at all until Hollow Bastion - unless, of course, Ven was "helping him".
Sora and Roxas do share a Keyblade - that's Roxas's usual Keyblade and why Diz rightfully said that Roxas held half of Sora's powers. Ven's Keyblade kicked in when we got to Duel Wielding.
Xion only seemed to have a key when either Roxas or Sora was in a deep sleep, but Sora and Roxas each had the Keyblade at the same time, as Days and CoM ran on the same initial timeline.
That is incorrect as on day 25, or was it 26, Sora, Roxas and Xion were all Wielding at the same time, right before Roxas passed out. Keep in mind though that Xion's isn't a proper Keyblade so it doesn't have much relevance imo.
I'd bring up the KH2FM fight between Sora and Roxas and the ability for that fight, and that fight only, that allowed Sora to wield -three- keys at once,
This is where the meaning behind "Wieling" comes into question. Setting aside the problematic nature of that fight as you yourself raised, a Keyblade Wielder can use any and all Keyblade. See Kairi and the Keyblade Riku let her use, Riku and the Oblivion when he fought Roxas, etc. Sora and Roxas, and Riku in KHII are unique because they didn't just use more than one Keyblade, but they can summon more than one Keyblade - thanks to Ven inside Sora/Roxas, and Xehanort's Heartless being inside Riku.
But what I definitely don't see is a solid connection between Riku and Vanitas in any way except that both knew a form of Xehanort.
The Darkness suit is a dead giveaway in my opinion. Yes, it might all tie back to Xehanort. But I fail to see why it can't be a direct relation between them. Think back to BBS - Vanitas was on Destiny Islands when Terra threw Ven there. Why was he there, what was his purpose? A logical answer is Sora, yes. But another highly logical answer would be Riku, as Riku was already a Wielder thanks to his earlier meeting with Terra. I wouldn't be surprised if Xehanort wasn't the only one sowing "seeds" and that Vanitas had his own plans and took his own actions to ensure his survival should Ven win. Ven breaks his Heart and falls into Sora; Vanitas falls into Riku. It might explain Riku's burst of wiseness when Sora heard Ven crying, with the whole "open your heart and listen". Who knows, maybe Vanitas told him to do that and Riku was only repeating his words, and Riku did that himself for Vanitas who played like a nice future version of Sora to get Riku to trust him.
I really fail to see why people don't see the logic behind this direct connection ._.;
Incidentally, Riku had his dark armor before he let Ansem control him completely.
Actually this is yet another reason why I support the Riku-Van connection :V but it's a chicken and egg situation here xD
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ssceles In reply to Suffering-Angel [2012-01-29 09:44:10 +0000 UTC]
You're infamous because you do exactly what you're doing now. *chuckle* At this point, all of it's so up in the air that either of us could be right or both of us could be totally wrong. I like being made to think, though, so I like hearing your theories just as much as I like explaining my own.
There are some things I just don't see a strong enough connection to believe, even if I wanted to, and that doesn't mean it isn't possible, just that it's not strong enough for me. We can agree to disagree and maybe when more things bubble up to the surface of the plot, some of our speculations may actually be proven correct. It's happened before! I'm almost scared to be right sometimes with this series. I'd rather they not do the obvious and keep making things twists in ways we can't possibly foresee. It's what makes it interesting. <3
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Suffering-Angel In reply to ssceles [2012-01-29 09:50:41 +0000 UTC]
You mean being hard-headed and stubborn? Also, highly outspoken? XD Yea, I'm very opinionated about basically anything and everything KH related, can't help it xD just the way I am.
But yes, thinking is good.
What I like about the Riku-Vanitas relation is that it makes sense enough to not be "wtf-ish", but also not AS predictable as you'd think. Though this does make me think back to when we only had the KHII secret ending to go with, and everyone were sure that Vanitas was Riku related because of the suit. Where did that go to? :c now I'm all alone thinking they're related, even though it makes all the sense in the world.
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Schemer66 [2012-01-28 19:06:29 +0000 UTC]
I never cared for Xion, but this is really awesome~
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