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Selene-Blackthorn — River Elf or Nymph - vs.3

Published: 2011-01-13 23:48:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 7703; Favourites: 104; Downloads: 728
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Description CRITIQUE IS V-E-R-Y MUCH DESIRED!!!
I would like to improve myself a lot, so I appreciate good ol' critique even more then faves and positive feedback...

Just to make a few things clear~
I DO submit one work to many groups, SOMETIMES. when it's worth it. I also fave and comment on other people's work when I go to submit to groups, I don't want to hear complaints about attention whoring. I give attention more often then I get it, so when I finally create something that I think is worth seeing, I want some feedback as well.

I made a few different versions. They differ only by the filters and cropping, but I wasn't sure which one was best. YOU tell me which one is

Here they are~




~MoonBirth Challenged me to a manip duel - she wimped out on the way though so but this is my result manipulating her beautiful photo~! [which I happened to be the photographer of ]
INFO:

© Selene-Blackthorn/Crystal-Snowflakes 2011~NOW

Tools Used: Photoshop CS3, a mouse

Stock used~

THANK YOU GUYS FOR:

~MoonBirth ~ The lovely MODEL ~ [link]
~Synyster-Stock ~ The amazing background ~ [link]
~LongStock ~ The arms ~ [link]
*3DClubhouse ~ The ears ~ [link]
~lady-symphonia-stock ~ this photo as a filter ~ [link]


Featured here: [link]
Gallery Folder : 2011 [20 y.o]
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Comments: 59

PicUnrelated [2013-11-20 02:59:53 +0000 UTC]

Glorious

Shared here: www.facebook.com/pages/Strange…

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to PicUnrelated [2013-11-28 20:50:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you~

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miketakespictures [2012-08-14 15:29:53 +0000 UTC]

I love elves as all the mystery things, so this is fantastic to me! The long long hair of the elf is wonderful, it flows from her shoulders transforming to a waterfall - this idea is brilliant! You gave her a mystery shine or aura - which elves surely have , and her color is not from this world. Just as a suggestion or stimulation - and I really hope you don´t mind - what about giving her a little bit transparence or make her a little unsharp or - in opposite of that putting the background a bit unsharp, that all just to support the mystery touch. Or may be you intended to put her into the scene in a realistic touch? If she is a creature born of water she should be transparent as water - something like that. The background could be bathed in a diffusing light also, it would make the expression of your great concept complete! This one is brilliant as the concept!

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to miketakespictures [2012-08-14 16:44:40 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, that's a great suggestion actually
I'm not sure my photoshop skills are good enough to pull it off well, but I will try if I get back to this

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miketakespictures In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2012-08-14 17:02:02 +0000 UTC]

Wow, great that you will try it, let me know!!

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FrozenStarART [2011-01-25 22:17:40 +0000 UTC]

Hey there
This is a standard message to let you know you have been featured in the "Best of... weekly photomanip features #173 " news article [link] .
I would really appreciate it if you didn't reply here, but posted a comment on the news article instead or contacted the person that chose your work to be featured.
Thank you and keep up the good work!

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Madame-Rien [2011-01-22 11:38:15 +0000 UTC]

OMG! I love this I am speechless and awestrucked by the beauty!

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to Madame-Rien [2011-01-22 13:10:13 +0000 UTC]

thank you very much~!

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Madame-Rien In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-22 21:37:43 +0000 UTC]

your so welcome

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wolf74145 [2011-01-15 05:54:45 +0000 UTC]

What a cool picture and concept!

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to wolf74145 [2011-01-15 12:49:10 +0000 UTC]

thank you~!

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Druce-White-Owl [2011-01-15 05:17:00 +0000 UTC]

This is just beautiful, I love the way shes' becoming the water.

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to Druce-White-Owl [2011-01-15 12:49:24 +0000 UTC]

thank you!

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Spiked-Joker [2011-01-15 03:49:25 +0000 UTC]

Very cool integration... Looking forward to others like this.

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to Spiked-Joker [2011-01-15 12:49:54 +0000 UTC]

thanks... I usually draw, but I'm thinking of starting to manipulate on usual basis too

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Aeltari [2011-01-14 21:58:07 +0000 UTC]

You have some lovely special effects going on here, and it is a unique idea. I will tell you what I see, since you requested critical feedback

1) More of her torso should be showing. It seems it is completely transparent. Also, she is a manifestation of water, am I correct? In that case, she would never be 100% in the material plane and would have very soft, partially translucent borders, not hard edges.

2) Her eyes are too stark in contrast with what she is and the rest of her body.

3) Your background needs some attention. There is a color discrepancy between your nymph and the background. Using filters sometimes backfires if it is not done as a whole and only in part. You could try playing with the hue/saturation settings, the color balance, and the vibrancy controls. See if you can get the background colors to more closely follow the color family your nymph is in. Does this even make any sense? Color adjustments are so hard to describe.

Version 4 and 5 are better color wise, if that helps at all.

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to Aeltari [2011-01-15 13:00:37 +0000 UTC]

thank you very much for the constructively-critical comment!

1) I guess the transparency was a fail. I mainly meant her to be a part of the rock, like she is coming out of it, as a manifestation of the whole spring and not just its waters. but I guess I failed on making her look like she IS the rock, so she just looks transparent.. would you have any tips on making her body look solid instead of transparent?
about the borders I didn't think yet - thank you for bringing it to my attention! I definitely should soften them!

2) yeah, that I definitely have to fix..

3) I understood what you mean about the discrepancy of colors - I tried to aim for a type of filter like they used in the later LOTR movies, where for some reason the whole image was tinted blueish-gray. I really loved the effect they had there so I tried to imitate it. the thing is, there IS an overall filter on this, but her own color is just too strong and monotonous and that makes her still stand out... I didn't know how not to make it clash with the BG, because I wanted to keep a hint of green in this picture and not just plainly tint it blue. I'm gonna have to try to revise this....

thank you very much for taking your time and writing this!!!

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Aeltari In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-15 16:44:14 +0000 UTC]

Are you using CS5? If you are not, you may not have all the features I would use to create the changes. I can try and describe softening the edges: You would need to apply a layer mask to the nymph. On the mask layer set your brush to 23% and carefully go around her edges. It will make her transparent in those places, but only by a small amount meaning you will need to go over the spots more then once to achieve the desired effect. Again, not knowing if you have the same program I am not sure if you will understand what I am on about .

For the body, you would need to leave the model's body intact is all, and perhaps apply the above technique a little, to show her being between worlds so to speak, and not completely transparent but not totally solid. You might also use the bubbling water as an overlay or texture effect on her torso!

The effect you are speaking of is "soft glow". Hehe, movies use that to cover up bad cinematography in SOME cases, certainly not the epic LOTR. You would need to mess with the overall color saturation and then apply the "diffuse glow" filter in Photoshop, or if its Gimp its called "soft glow". You can adjust the amount of glow.

Here is another way you might have lots of fun with:
(I am not going into the exact pathway since your program might be different, I will assume you know where to find these settings)

1) Make a duplicate of your piece as another layer.
2) Strip all the color out of it using the Black and White setting.
3) Bump up the "Green" in the B&W, this will make the light parts much brighter.
4) Apply a "gaussian blur" until the entire piece is all soft and fuzzy, but still recognizable.
5) Play with the opacity slider on this layer...watch what happens!

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bravofox16 [2011-01-14 21:44:55 +0000 UTC]

thats beautiful wow i am very impressed with it

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to bravofox16 [2011-01-14 21:47:23 +0000 UTC]

thank you very much!

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bravofox16 In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 21:48:38 +0000 UTC]

thats such an amazing job quite the fallowing you have lol

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to bravofox16 [2011-01-14 21:55:19 +0000 UTC]

fallowing?

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bravofox16 In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 21:56:24 +0000 UTC]

lol a lot of people seem to love your work. Rightfully so

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to bravofox16 [2011-01-14 22:59:42 +0000 UTC]

oh..
yeah, I don't get it myself. though I'm kind of really proud of it [otherwise I would not have been showing it off, right?], but I'm not sure its THAT good... I just feel it's s lot better then my previous attempts

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bravofox16 In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 23:02:59 +0000 UTC]

your very talented take heart

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CelticStrm [2011-01-14 20:05:28 +0000 UTC]

That is gorgeous! I love the way she blends with the water!

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to CelticStrm [2011-01-14 20:06:06 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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CelticStrm In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-15 03:45:07 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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dgtrekker [2011-01-14 20:01:29 +0000 UTC]

I like the concept, I don't know that I like that her torso is transparent as her arms are visible, if she were rising from the water I would think more of her upper body would be visible, if just barely. My two cents for what its worth.

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to dgtrekker [2011-01-14 20:05:50 +0000 UTC]

that's interesting to hear
she is actually supposed to rise from the stones [as it's a shallow stream], and her body is still partially a stone... I guess I failed on making that one show. I didn't want her to have a transparent body... I gotta find a way to fix this. thanks a bunch for pointing it out~! <3

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dgtrekker In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 20:19:13 +0000 UTC]

Interesting...I had though she was forming from the water, not the rocks, I look forward to seeing your "updated" version.

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to dgtrekker [2011-01-14 21:07:32 +0000 UTC]

hahaha if I'll manage to make it look like it should.... it's a tough project. at the beginning I tried to make half of her hand be a rock as well and it looked just transparent so I took it off... but I can't take the rock off of the body, the model was dressed... XD I'll think of something ^^
a billion thanks for the watch btw!

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dgtrekker In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-16 18:56:43 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome for the watch. Give it time, I'm sure you can come up with something.

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Laura-Cadei [2011-01-14 20:00:09 +0000 UTC]

awesome

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to Laura-Cadei [2011-01-14 20:03:29 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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capn-gary [2011-01-14 19:50:01 +0000 UTC]

Gorgeous work!

Gary

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to capn-gary [2011-01-14 19:56:17 +0000 UTC]

thank you~

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TarienCole [2011-01-14 19:42:51 +0000 UTC]

It does feel very organic to the scene. Well done.

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to TarienCole [2011-01-14 19:46:02 +0000 UTC]

thanks
organic?

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TarienCole In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 19:48:51 +0000 UTC]

yes, natural to the background. Part of the landscape. And you're very welcome.

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to TarienCole [2011-01-14 19:57:23 +0000 UTC]

ah, okay glad it looks good there. I was worried it'll look strange... thanks again..

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TarienCole In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 20:04:13 +0000 UTC]

no, it looks very nice. duly faved and you're welcome.

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Shawn-Saylor [2011-01-14 16:53:47 +0000 UTC]

Nice work...she looks like she is part of the water...well done!

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to Shawn-Saylor [2011-01-14 17:03:27 +0000 UTC]

thank you
I actually meant her to be part of the rocks, like she's coming out of them and her hair is the water... but I guess being part of the water is good too ^^

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FallenDanceAngel [2011-01-14 16:34:46 +0000 UTC]

nice!

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to FallenDanceAngel [2011-01-14 16:36:27 +0000 UTC]

thank you very much

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FallenDanceAngel In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 16:39:11 +0000 UTC]

you welcome

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DarkAngelS2 [2011-01-14 16:26:45 +0000 UTC]

Its amazing! I luv it!

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Selene-Blackthorn In reply to DarkAngelS2 [2011-01-14 16:28:14 +0000 UTC]

thank you!

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DarkAngelS2 In reply to Selene-Blackthorn [2011-01-14 16:37:50 +0000 UTC]

yw :3

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