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Norsehound In reply to Wisky-08 [2013-07-16 03:53:30 +0000 UTC]
I didn't know about this when I was brainstorming this version of BSG, so there is no Battlestar Atlantis.
There was a battlestar Atlantia though.
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Wisky-08 [2013-07-12 15:39:03 +0000 UTC]
What about the Battlestar Atlantis preserved under the sands of Earth?
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Norsehound In reply to Wisky-08 [2013-07-15 08:10:09 +0000 UTC]
No such reference existed in the Larson production.
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Wisky-08 [2013-07-11 22:59:14 +0000 UTC]
What the history to this Galactica?
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Norsehound In reply to Wisky-08 [2013-07-12 06:40:33 +0000 UTC]
If I'm recalling right...
She's the Caprican Battlestar, obviously. The past few generations were in the hands of the Adama family (to about Apollo's great-great grandfather). The Adamas were well known for their military presence and some used that to discount their input during the armistace.
She was built concurrently with the Pegasus, and as such both were kind of seen as rivals. While the Galactica focused on lesser armaments in greater quality, Pegasus went the heavy gun route and gained a lot of offensive assignments as a result. Galactica was perceived as being defensive-oriented for typical Battlestar designs and ultimately the most well rounded. Future Battlestars following the Galactica's construction used the Galactica as a template.
She also has the longest service time without a refit. She needed one during Cimtar but cost cutting measures and the impending armistace forstall her upgrades. In the end she didn't need them, because she could still take on most other star nations' space fleets by herself.
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MH11387sly [2013-05-13 17:07:46 +0000 UTC]
if this is in a animated series. while balencing the original's fast pace, clever moments writing and characters, and the remakes politics. I would scream from the mountain tops and say HELL YEAH!!! Make it happen. Cause i hate the remake series cause it killed some of the fan favorite characters, focuses on politics and it's pace is slow as molasis.
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Norsehound In reply to MH11387sly [2013-05-14 08:04:34 +0000 UTC]
Keep politics out of the picture and I can get behind that.
Don't like it when my entertainment is used as a vehicle for soapboxing.
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MH11387sly In reply to Norsehound [2013-05-14 12:41:02 +0000 UTC]
yeah i ment if someone works on it
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chaos-sandwhich [2013-01-02 19:46:06 +0000 UTC]
cool design, i like both the old and new designs, but yours has a different quality to it, i very much like the shape of the bow structure
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pro12011 [2012-12-01 17:03:50 +0000 UTC]
I like the design although I am partial to the old design I would back you on revamping the old series though.
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United-Systems-Navy [2012-09-20 04:06:45 +0000 UTC]
Aww man, both series were great. I personally prefer the new one just because its a bit more hard scifi
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chaos-sandwhich In reply to United-Systems-Navy [2013-01-02 19:44:59 +0000 UTC]
i found the new one to be great, mainly because its one of the more gritty sci fi's, no replicators or fancy laser light shows and using cannons in an old school dog fight, i find that more thrilling
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dcmstarships [2012-07-27 21:24:01 +0000 UTC]
I like your version!
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1Wyrmshadow1 [2012-03-01 04:32:16 +0000 UTC]
Wow, posted 3 years ago and now you're returning to it? When I was a kid I had BSG in novel form, it ended when they escaped from the Ovions. On the back of the book was a very angular Galactica that was part of the original artists concept drafts. It looked like yours right here.
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Norsehound In reply to 1Wyrmshadow1 [2012-03-01 04:57:59 +0000 UTC]
I think I've seen that one actually. Bulkier than mine.
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ET8000 [2011-10-03 17:27:01 +0000 UTC]
Hm, I did like the new series. But I can understand your views on it. Kind of like me and the remake of Halo CE.
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Norsehound In reply to ET8000 [2011-10-05 05:36:16 +0000 UTC]
Many people do. I don't. I'm wondering why Moore didn't just launch his own series with the premise being so different from the original Galactica. Asking this question makes me ponder if there's a reason why he can't do anything original.
The Halo CE Remake isn't nearly as bad because the re-makers aren't messing with the original gameplay, dialogue, or plot points. They even throw in the option to turn off all the new additions. You don't have that luxury with nBSG- even if you re-costumed everyone the show is too different to be considered Battlestar Galactica, in my opinion.
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ET8000 In reply to Norsehound [2011-10-05 06:45:40 +0000 UTC]
Well I understand, it was suggested that is was, sort of, a 'sequel', but, meh. I haven't seen the original series, so I'd need to before I make a judgement.
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Norsehound In reply to ET8000 [2011-10-05 07:53:41 +0000 UTC]
If it was intended as a sequel they did a pretty crappy job of conveying that idea, even subtly. Then again I think the writers were intentionally making things confusing to cover for not having a clue of what to do with the plot. *shrug*
If you're going to watch the original series ever, skip the single episodes and go for the first and last episodes and the two-parters. It's rather shallow to crap on the whole series for being "cheesy" by modern standards, but that criticism is not entirely unwarranted. Just keep in mind it was for a 1970s audience.
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ET8000 In reply to Norsehound [2011-10-05 16:32:32 +0000 UTC]
Ok. My dad hated the old series but I'll try to have a look sometime XD
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EbolaSparkleBear [2011-08-17 06:38:53 +0000 UTC]
Oh man!
That BattleStar would hold like 500 Vipers.
I think a vessel that large would present problems for a series as it's crew would be too vast to include as characters.
The bit characters got air time in the Sci Fi series, but at this scale the bit characters would need their own series.
The fleet actions would have to be enomrously epicly huge too. Which is cool.
Nice work!
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Norsehound In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-08-17 07:21:49 +0000 UTC]
But see, you're thinking on a whole new scale of ships, manpower, and structure. Fitting for an alien civilization of man.
And a fitting scale for an epic premise.
Much more epic than Moore could allow himself to see.
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ChalAden [2009-10-05 13:40:43 +0000 UTC]
Don't hang me for saying this, but I liked the re-imagined battlestars. They had a very stark, serious appeal and were downright impressive. That said, your work is excellent, especially since it gives each ship a unique look. I like that, especially considering ships of a battlestars scale would probably never be the same from one to the next. I think I'd have liked these just as well as the "Black Slab" designs that aired. Great work!
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atomicturist [2009-09-13 22:31:28 +0000 UTC]
C'man. Old BSG sucked BIG time. It was "Let's do starwars" movie and every body was a Han Solo. FX were lusy, dialogues even worse. How can we even compare the two shows?? But this battlestar rocks!
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Norsehound In reply to atomicturist [2009-09-13 23:57:45 +0000 UTC]
And you think the soap opera in space was any better?
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atomicturist In reply to Norsehound [2009-09-14 09:48:26 +0000 UTC]
Well... BSG Soap Opera it was through several epizodes and still it was imho better than original series. Still, its my personal opinion and as mauch as I say that original show sucked big time I liked it and it was still better than most of other 70's and 80's TV s-f series. It was funny and entertaining to watch, but nBSG is just more interesting and better in the sense of film making. Better script, better proportions no silver painted people, no cliche bad characters and cliche good characters. However, the old show had one thing that the new lacked. It was the creator's awareness of the direction the show has to take. In nBSG the writers struggle until the half of the 3rd season not knowing which way to go. Still, new is better than old show. I think.
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Norsehound In reply to atomicturist [2009-09-14 18:35:13 +0000 UTC]
The original show was also based on optimism, though by current standards I suppose it is 'too much' optimism. You can't blame it for that though, given the era it was produced, and there's nothing wrong with a dose of optimism in an escapist work.
I also like the original over the new series because of the attention it paid to mythology. BSG was supposed to play on the ancient astronaut theory and I feel TOS did a better job because it consciously worked this into the story. The ending for nBSG in this regard comes suddenly and feels forced by comparison. The show had great potential here, but it was never completely realized by either generation.
Personally I couldn't stand the constant depression in moore's show and the fact that the characters seemed too flawed to be believable. There was no 'everyman' in the show, someone seemed guilty of one tragedy or another. I'd say I would probably relate to the cylons, but they don't seem any better. Moore later seemed to ignore continuity completely for the sake of accomplishing his plots... something as a writer I find detestable. The political tone didn't do anything for me either since I think sci-fi like Battlestar should be escapist, and politicizing it makes the show dated.
nBSG is praised, but I can't see why. All I can state is my opinions and that I disagree.
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SciFiFan2013 In reply to Norsehound [2013-03-07 08:20:10 +0000 UTC]
I agree with your opinion on every point. nuBSG was a chore to watch. I felt if I missed an episode of nuBSG, I wouldn't really miss anything as they were just as depressed in the following episode. Also, Apollo's romance with the bridge officer (I forget her name) was forced IMHO.
Nice design!
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atomicturist In reply to Norsehound [2009-09-14 20:43:28 +0000 UTC]
It's all subjective. Optimistic, happy-go-lucky mood of original and dark, depresing and politicaly themed new bsg. Some like first some the other. I just think that even if we dont look at that, new bsg still is better just from professional point of wiew. But it's personal opinion.
And the old bsg was totally destroyed by the second season as they found the present day earth. That was cheap.
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Norsehound In reply to atomicturist [2009-09-15 00:42:45 +0000 UTC]
That wasn't a second season...
The story goes BSG was canceled by the networks (despite its popularity at the time) but then they decided to bring it back. To save on funding they went to local locations in present day earth (1980s Earth), and cut almost the entire cast. If original BSG was cheesy, Galactica: 1980 channeled the worst of it. Everything from Timetravel to genius wizkids were thrown in. I find that most of the detractors of TOS get their bashing material from G:1980 (Flying motorcylces are here) without considering the fact that the TOS fans don't like 1980 either. TOS had its moments, but both sides pretty much agree that G1980 sucked.
Every continuation story of the original ignores 1980. Interestingly enough, Galactica 1980 was the first series to show humanoid cylons. It was considered an ugly idea by the fans.
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mrwoodchuck61 [2009-04-04 20:35:50 +0000 UTC]
I love the "Epic Galactica Concept" I've always thought that an advanced space fairing society would not have the resource limitations of a grounded world and could therefore build huge massive ship like you portray here.
I also am far more intrigued by the original series mythos than the Nu series lack of it.
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YuKigono [2009-03-31 04:22:14 +0000 UTC]
Regardless of the quality of the individual shows, I've always preferred the nBSG designs over oBSG's. However, as always, your work breathes new life into it. Major props.
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Ovni-the-UFO [2009-03-29 18:14:54 +0000 UTC]
Very nice, very large. o: I always thought that 'Battlestar' was simply a rebranding of a real-world shiptype, the battlecarrier (a WW2 hybrid of a battleship and an aircraft carrier...they didn't particlarly catch on though). Of course, your new version here is more like, pardon the comparision, the Death Star being mistaken for a moon. From a distance, if light was glinting off of it, I'm sure someone would mistake it for a star. XD
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Mk-8 [2009-03-29 15:26:52 +0000 UTC]
Very nice design, and it's anti-cap guns look to be a good deal more intelligently placed.
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dencrack [2009-03-29 09:59:15 +0000 UTC]
talking **** about the new bsg,sure,it had his flaws,but you guys talk as if it was the bigest turd in scfi ever.
but your version of the galactica is nice to!
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gyro5 [2009-03-29 05:37:43 +0000 UTC]
I see elements of a Hiigaan Interceptor. I at first had trouble adopting to the new Galactica. We all should be thankful the Vipers are almost 100% original. As for your design, I like it.
For a massive ship, I am highly disappointed of their lack of heavy anti-shipping guns like a battleship has. All both Galactica's had were mostly AAA guns.
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Norsehound In reply to gyro5 [2009-03-29 06:05:50 +0000 UTC]
Eh, another one of my "New Galactica" Sketches clearly pulls from the Venerator Star Destroyer for the Galactica's head. I see less of a Hiigaran interceptor here...
As to Viper originality... well... I guess the "Mark IIs" Are original, but it seems the Mark VII may have been ripped out of Tom DeSanto's continuation concepts: [link]
To be clear, all these Battlestars have anti-air cannons- they're just too small to be represented. The turrets visible are clearly anti-capital.
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gyro5 In reply to Norsehound [2009-03-29 06:33:37 +0000 UTC]
True.
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JohnnyMuffintop [2009-03-28 22:58:01 +0000 UTC]
She's MASSIVE!
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dukeleto [2009-03-28 22:21:26 +0000 UTC]
myeh, I like nBSG, you's is a nice design, but why scale it up?
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Norsehound In reply to dukeleto [2009-03-29 00:08:37 +0000 UTC]
Because I feel "Battlestar" suggests an epic scale... something with no direct earth equivalent.
After all, I felt the original design was equal to a Star Destroyer on the scale of things.
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dukeleto In reply to Norsehound [2009-03-29 01:21:37 +0000 UTC]
Such a big ship, really beyond the human scale, might work for space opera but it'd work against the central idea of the Battlestar remake, the importance of humanity.
Of course, if you PREFER space opera...
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Norsehound In reply to dukeleto [2009-03-29 02:25:14 +0000 UTC]
Of course. Since the name Battlestar Galactica has been remembered and loved as a Space Opera for over thirty years, then it isn't a question of conveying "Epic" in the redesign.
And frankly I don't think the new series addresses the importance of humanity well.
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dukeleto In reply to Norsehound [2009-03-29 09:51:35 +0000 UTC]
fair enough, plenty of people disagree.
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