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Description The complete sentence is: "If science proves some belief of Buddhism wrong, then Buddhism will have to change. In my view, science and Buddhism share a search for the truth and for understanding reality. By learning from science about aspects of reality where its understanding may be more advanced, I believe that Buddhism enriches its own worldview."

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Buddhism has no problem with science. In fact, observation and analysis, i.e., scientific methods, are one of the key points in Buddhism. However, we Buddhists don't observe merely with scientific apparatus, but also our minds.

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HaniSantosa In reply to ??? [2017-06-23 14:34:25 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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WingDiamond [2016-04-12 22:08:46 +0000 UTC]

Strange that all of the dA Creationists on here have that backards!

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HaniSantosa In reply to WingDiamond [2016-04-13 02:21:17 +0000 UTC]

I know right

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PeteSeeger [2015-12-29 21:16:42 +0000 UTC]

Buddhism wouldn't change because Buddhism doesn't have a god. Β And that is beside the fact God cannot be disproven by science (and therefore cannot be proven by science but that's where faith comes in).

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TheHazmatSuit In reply to PeteSeeger [2018-04-02 09:55:51 +0000 UTC]

Which is funny, because Buddhism is one of those philosophies that have changed the most in its twenty-four centuries of life. Besides, which god are we talking about?Β 

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Kev-dog [2015-07-31 23:45:29 +0000 UTC]

Wow, a religious leader I can respect.

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HaniSantosa In reply to Kev-dog [2015-08-02 10:16:56 +0000 UTC]

Agreed

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Greatkingrat88 [2014-07-16 20:27:07 +0000 UTC]

A rather unique position for a religious leader.

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HaniSantosa In reply to Greatkingrat88 [2014-07-17 02:39:51 +0000 UTC]

Because Buddhism is unique among religions

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Bacxaber In reply to HaniSantosa [2015-11-09 00:44:29 +0000 UTC]

Buddhism is more like a lifestyle than a religion.

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HaniSantosa In reply to Bacxaber [2015-11-09 02:31:53 +0000 UTC]

It depends on what exactly "religion" is

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fredrikslicer [2014-07-16 17:52:58 +0000 UTC]

improvements are allways welcome

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Doomblade2712 [2012-09-30 11:25:08 +0000 UTC]

Science proves that life is "suffering" WRONG. It can be all happiness and joy and love etc. for some people... like me.

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HaniSantosa In reply to Doomblade2712 [2012-10-01 08:34:43 +0000 UTC]

do you mean "science" or "Buddhism"? Indeed science doesn't prove that life is suffering. In fact, science has nothing to do with our emotional state.

If you mean "Buddhism proves that life is suffering", well you may misunderstand what "suffering" in Buddhism means. The original word is "dukha", and it is better translated as unhappiness/unsatisfactoriness (now you have those, don't you?). Buddhism states that there is unhappiness/unsatisfatcoriness in our life. we always missing/lacking something. and indeed this dukha originates from wrong point of view. we are greedy, or we think that our health/money/etc are permanent. that's why when we lose them, we experience dukha. Buddhism teaches us to change this wrong point of view. and if you live a happy life, good for you. but in the end, you still have to leave your happy life (when you die), and it is still considered as a dukha.

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Doomblade2712 In reply to HaniSantosa [2012-10-01 17:27:32 +0000 UTC]

I am happy with whoever, whenever, whatever, wherever and however~ death is nothing but a concept I do not experience dukha at any level, and many people are waking up to the fact that we only experience suffering due to our own judgements whether it came from within or the society...

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HaniSantosa In reply to Doomblade2712 [2012-10-02 09:48:33 +0000 UTC]

exactly. our unhappiness/unsatisfactoriness comes from our wrong point of view, and Buddha teaches us to systematically get rid of it, and change it into the correct point of view.

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TheHazmatSuit In reply to HaniSantosa [2018-04-02 09:58:59 +0000 UTC]

Well, the term used in most translations of the latter-day Sutras is actually "endoku kyaku", which means "turning poison into medicine", so it's actually less about getting rid of what is wrong with you and more about accepting it as a limitation and using it as a stepping stone to working on resolving the problem. It's very Nietzscheian.

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HaniSantosa In reply to TheHazmatSuit [2018-05-03 15:22:14 +0000 UTC]

Interesting point of view. Btw you are a Buddhist?

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TheHazmatSuit In reply to HaniSantosa [2018-05-04 21:05:12 +0000 UTC]

Yep. Japanese Mahayana adherent, to the Nichiren sect to be more precise. Why?

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HaniSantosa In reply to TheHazmatSuit [2018-05-30 08:08:26 +0000 UTC]

No specific reason. So that's why you know a lot about Buddhism.

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TheHazmatSuit In reply to HaniSantosa [2018-06-03 11:00:17 +0000 UTC]

It is. Are you a scholar, by the way? Your knowledge is great for a simple hobby or passion.

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HaniSantosa In reply to TheHazmatSuit [2018-06-18 02:02:51 +0000 UTC]

I am not a scholar. I just like Buddhism. I think it is the most sensible religion out there. So I learn a lot about it

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TheHazmatSuit In reply to HaniSantosa [2018-06-22 20:37:51 +0000 UTC]

Well, I don't think of it as an actual religion (but then again, I'm a Mahayana Buddhist) but I agree with you, it's the most sensible. And anyway, yeah. Learning about things like this is something everyone should do. Culture's important, it helps you grow.

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Doomblade2712 In reply to HaniSantosa [2012-10-02 19:25:00 +0000 UTC]

Until we get rid of them all... I guess life is suffering no matter how little you may think the suffering is~

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wildeye99 [2012-05-12 00:14:43 +0000 UTC]

such a great man.

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HaniSantosa In reply to wildeye99 [2012-05-12 11:00:12 +0000 UTC]

he is not perfect, but yeah I agree

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johnfboslet2001 [2012-04-20 04:12:33 +0000 UTC]

There are some that i love listening to speak...Arthur C. Clarke, for example, and the Dalai Lama.

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HaniSantosa In reply to johnfboslet2001 [2012-04-20 07:25:47 +0000 UTC]

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HeiMantaHei [2012-04-03 14:41:18 +0000 UTC]

Buddhism is such a beautiful religion *__*

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HaniSantosa In reply to HeiMantaHei [2012-04-04 07:47:31 +0000 UTC]

it is

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Dasha444 [2012-04-02 20:20:57 +0000 UTC]

"The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism."
-Einstein

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spark10010 In reply to Dasha444 [2013-09-24 21:47:14 +0000 UTC]

Wow!!Β  Thank you for sharing that lovely quote from a wonderful man.

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Dasha444 In reply to spark10010 [2013-09-25 20:09:07 +0000 UTC]

Always happy to throw some wisdom out there It's so true....

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HaniSantosa In reply to Dasha444 [2012-04-03 09:14:07 +0000 UTC]

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Dasha444 In reply to HaniSantosa [2012-04-03 09:23:42 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, rumor has that Einstein was pretty smart

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Delahkor [2012-03-22 23:26:48 +0000 UTC]

Now I'll refer people to this when I want to prove Buddhism is awesome, thanks for making my life easier

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HaniSantosa In reply to Delahkor [2012-03-23 08:59:18 +0000 UTC]

not all Buddhists have such way of thinking, unfortunately.

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bishamon7ten In reply to HaniSantosa [2012-04-11 17:54:54 +0000 UTC]

Maybe be they are beginners

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HaniSantosa In reply to bishamon7ten [2012-04-12 10:07:49 +0000 UTC]

they are the people who merely follow other people without studying buddhism itself

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Delahkor In reply to HaniSantosa [2012-03-23 21:26:47 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, unfortunately, there are idiotic Buddhists as well out there, good thing they're quite few though.

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Gravity-is-Optional [2012-03-21 22:39:21 +0000 UTC]

Good on him. Also, great pic.

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HaniSantosa In reply to Gravity-is-Optional [2012-03-22 10:09:51 +0000 UTC]

thanx

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BanzaiSquirrel [2012-03-21 07:36:10 +0000 UTC]

Very cool!

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HaniSantosa In reply to BanzaiSquirrel [2012-03-21 10:23:17 +0000 UTC]

thanx

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NotaMeme [2012-03-20 19:45:57 +0000 UTC]

Proof Buddhists are awesome

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HaniSantosa In reply to NotaMeme [2012-03-22 10:14:14 +0000 UTC]

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KCammy [2012-03-20 19:21:21 +0000 UTC]

I have immense respect for Buddhists like this man. My RE teacher last year, in fact, was a Buddhist.

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HaniSantosa In reply to KCammy [2012-03-21 10:23:39 +0000 UTC]

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mongoose64 [2012-03-20 19:01:58 +0000 UTC]

Both as really like this. Both as a Christian and Buddhist.

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Tacimur [2012-03-20 17:10:19 +0000 UTC]

Some faith in humanity was restored today.
It's still a bit too comfortable to demand science debunk some religious claims instead of the religion proving them true in the first place... but still, this is way better than what we get from the Abrahamic religions.

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