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MitchellTF [2017-01-11 16:38:26 +0000 UTC]
*nods* This I can agree with.
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Darkton93 [2016-09-22 05:13:27 +0000 UTC]
Bringing a minority group up to a mainstream group's level: EQUITY
Dragging a mainstream group down to a minority group's level: ALSO EQUITY
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History-Explorer [2015-04-01 15:19:18 +0000 UTC]
I'm all for equity, though I admit that I support equal opportunity however inequality of results when equity and equal opportunity are genuinely sought, are acceptable to me. Meritocracy is my idol, equity and equal opportunity are the means to achieve it.
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AndroolG [2015-04-01 06:22:44 +0000 UTC]
I think you're mistaking equity and justice here. And your recuring "watever you want it to mean" is problematic, if we canot twist the meaning of concept, philosophy will die as most concept have diferent meaning depending on wich philosopher use them. Of course it will be far easier for us to comunicate if we all had the same meaning behind every word but we will be speaking a dead language then.
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brentcherry In reply to AndroolG [2015-04-01 06:36:24 +0000 UTC]
They're similar, but not quite the same. Equity is about being fair and impartial. Justice is about being achieving righteousness, which is quite debatable.
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AndroolG In reply to brentcherry [2015-04-01 07:15:50 +0000 UTC]
In my view of philosophy of law, when babylonian set on stone the lex talionis they were improving the law to the level of equity as before the famouse eye for an eye vendetta was the rule and it lead to endless retaliation. Since then, mainly with the romans, the law evolved and what you put under "equity" is a part of what we expect from justice and can be resumed as bean treated as "equal" in oposition of antique systeme where you will have been juged diferently depending on caste, welth, origin, etc...
So your acceptation of equity seems to be linked to justice and in this case equality will be more acurate imo. But both word have multiple meaning depending on context as equality was primarily a matematical concept that now has meaning in a lot of non matematical area. Ain't you want to come back to latin where they both come from you can't diferency them that easily and say, it mean that period. We aren't speaking a dead language. Words aren't read alone but in context and depending on who is talking and what he is talking about you can interpret them diferently. If you go to any enciclopedia you will see that both word have more than one meaning and encyclopedia may not give exactly the same meaning to every single sens of them as it depend on what time you are refering to, what place and what autor / philosopher you decide to push behind. Language is not a science, nobody can claim he has the truth on it, it's because of that wrighting is an art.
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brentcherry In reply to AndroolG [2015-04-01 08:56:32 +0000 UTC]
You're right that definitions may vary with context, as context is very important. But at the same time, words can't just mean whatever you want them to mean. They have to have clear and consistent definitions, or else words are useless.
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AndroolG In reply to brentcherry [2015-04-01 20:59:43 +0000 UTC]
The problem I see with your last sentens is that you choose what meaning they must have in your opinion and by that disagree with for exemple wikipedia who as a larger spectrum of definition for both equity and equality so basicaly you are saying this word meant watever I want to but I deny you the right to do the same. On the word equity it's quite ironic don't you think?
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brentcherry In reply to AndroolG [2015-04-01 21:23:50 +0000 UTC]
If it were my opinion, then you would be right. But it isn't.
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Orisoll In reply to MusicAndMovies1993 [2015-04-01 15:03:57 +0000 UTC]
Oh my goodness, stop with that patriarchal clapping! You're triggering my anxiety!
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SilverStarApple In reply to MusicAndMovies1993 [2016-05-14 21:50:44 +0000 UTC]
(He was kidding. Even though he should have used the {amazing} sarcasm tags, since italicizing is so 2002.)
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