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Vulpinev [2023-03-29 03:46:25 +0000 UTC]
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AzabacheSilver [2018-08-24 22:59:04 +0000 UTC]
Fascinating OC!
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PJToon75 [2017-11-18 15:15:26 +0000 UTC]
Despite her tragic back story, she looks beautiful. Nice work.
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Artaith-21 In reply to PJToon75 [2017-12-27 01:58:09 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so very much!
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PJToon75 In reply to Artaith-21 [2017-12-27 02:06:28 +0000 UTC]
You're more than welcome!
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mcaputo123187 [2015-05-31 09:12:25 +0000 UTC]
What a sad back story... Hope she gets a happy ending. I do think she's very pritty here. I love how her neck and shoulders look here. ^^*
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GnarKill5150 [2015-05-08 19:37:17 +0000 UTC]
Looks great!! I look forward to reading these fanfics! They sound absolutely amazing!!
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Artaith-21 In reply to Ryivhnn [2015-05-01 22:27:00 +0000 UTC]
LOL- most definitely the personality I was trying to depict in her design. Don't want to see that grin approaching you slowly from behind in a dark place, that's for sure!
Thanks ^^
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bubbles46853 [2015-04-29 20:13:16 +0000 UTC]
She's adorable! May I hug her please? Poor pups...
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Artaith-21 In reply to bubbles46853 [2015-05-01 22:28:28 +0000 UTC]
Well, you can certainly try, but she's pretty dangerous! XD
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RRChaser617 [2015-04-29 03:23:33 +0000 UTC]
Wow... I vaguely remember her Artaith but what I do is very sad. I remembered reading one or two things and thinking 'if only anyone not just a male but anyone loved her'/
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Artaith-21 In reply to MetalExveemon [2015-04-29 02:45:01 +0000 UTC]
I was gonna include that part in the description, but it was going kind of long. Basically, her other suitor didn't realize she was pregnant when he chased Hunter off, and then when he found out she was pregnant with Hunter's pups, he no longer desired her- looked at her as if she was 'tainted' so to speak. The last thing he would have wanted to do was help her raise his rival's pups.
She's definitely an anti-villain as in she does villainous things, but they're driven by her pain and suffering, so one kinda tends to feels sorry for her. I think it's in the 'Tale of Despereaux' where they have the line: 'sometimes, when a heart breaks, it grows back twisted', and she is definitely the embodient of that.
LOL yeah, she does kinda look like a crazed streetwalker or something.
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MetalExveemon In reply to Artaith-21 [2015-04-29 04:15:23 +0000 UTC]
I see, that does make sense in a way. Whatever happened to the rival, anyway, or is that even important? On a side note, at first I wasn't so certain about her backstory, since both characters and the situation seemed to make the dogs out to be 'humanish' before they turned into canosapiens (in the show, the dogs seemed to behave like actual dogs before they were mutated), but then I recalled other details of the show that suggests the dogs were sentient on some level (Hunter is certainly proof of that, given his introduction), so I guess Clandestiney's backstory is in keeping with the original show formula.
But yes, I do feel sorry for her; what she went through was terrible, and she does have a legitimate reason for hating Hunter. Although logically speaking, the subject of why he left and the fact that she had his pups will undoubtedly come up, and the truth could very easily help to heal things... if that's your intent, of course. For all I know, you plan on having Clandestiney remain 'bad', or she becomes the type of anti-villain who's already done so many bad things that the only thing left for them is a heroic sacrifice. But, I'm only speculating. X)
Y'know, with the expression she has in the pic, I can imagine her looking down at Hunter's who been strapped down to a torture-table. ^^ That's both funny and alarming.
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Artaith-21 In reply to MetalExveemon [2015-04-29 04:42:25 +0000 UTC]
True, but alpha dog rivalries and competing for the right to breed with females is very common in dogs, especially when left to their own devices where they form their own street packs. Even if the 'Road Rovers' series was lighthearted for the most part, my writing always leaned towards more mature themes. I like to write epics with strong character development and scenarios, so that carried over into my fanfic writing as well.
Clandestiney's story is long and drawn out. Even when faced with the real truth, she spends quite a lot of time in denial- because all she has had for so many years was her rage and sorrow, and without it, she feels lost. To find out that all her years of rage and frustration were misplaced would shatter her just as much as the original events that lead her up to that point. There is no easy way out for her, that's for sure.
LOL yeah, I was trying to capture her trademark wicked grin in this pic.
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Artaith-21 In reply to MetalExveemon [2015-05-02 06:43:11 +0000 UTC]
LOL- I don't know if that would be considered a real triangle- nobody seems to want Blitz XD
The Road Rovers nor their allies would probably never do anything like that, and in fact, if Clandestiney were to seek revenge on someone who wronged both her and Hunter down the line, the Road Rovers would head out to stop her just because they are expected to uphold a civilized justice system.
The Road Rovers transform her the first time- she sets up a scenario in which they cross paths and Hunter, recognizes her, and they take her back to Mission Control. She tricks them at first, staying as their guest while she begins to unfold her plans.
I'll get around to posting the fic one of these days. It needs some cleaning up and editing before I start posting it again. Plus, I still need to get back to posting 'BATB' as well XD
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MetalExveemon In reply to Artaith-21 [2015-05-02 15:10:01 +0000 UTC]
Well, in fanon there are plenty of OCs who would want Blitz, but in canon, well... I have a few theories that Hunter *might* have had a little bit of a crush on Blitz (again, just a theory), and of course there were all those Ho Yay moments the Doberman shared with Exile. ROFL!
Yep, that's most likely what would happen.
Huh, its interesting that its the Rovers who transform her and not any of the villains. It adds a bit of irony to the situation, although I suppose its not all that surprising that the Rovers end up producing a traitor/enemy on their own. After all, look at Sport, he betrayed them (granted, it was to save his master, but still).
I think I'd like to read that, I look forward to when you finish it. What's 'BATB', though?
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Artaith-21 In reply to MetalExveemon [2015-05-02 22:33:11 +0000 UTC]
LOL yeah, for some reason in fanon Blitz is highly desirable XD
I seriously doubt in any way that Hunter had 'a crush on Blitz' in the series. It just isn't there. Plus, you gotta remember that this is mid-90's Western children's programming - there is no way they would depict same-sex attractions or relationships. Shoot, even real-life actors and actresses like Ellen were barely putting forth the idea in live-action serials yet. These days though it's a different story and we're seeing more and more subtle and often not subtle hints at a wider range of relationships and genders in daily programming, including animated shows.
LOL Sport- that whole episode is so ugly to look at. Ha ha ha. One of my favorite mistakes is when the plane is falling out of the sky and Blitz is praying, but if you look in the window beside him, the clouds are moving in the wrong direction so it looks like the plane is actually falling up XD
'BATB' is short for probably my most well-known fanfic, "Blessed are the Bleeders". I wrote it back in 1998. I started posting it here on DA in the RR folder section ^^
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MetalExveemon In reply to Artaith-21 [2015-05-03 03:23:28 +0000 UTC]
"For some reason"? ^^ Have you *seen* Blitz? ;D Rofl, the guy's got the body of a Greek god carved out of a 6'2" chunk of chocolate and caramel! And he may be a coward, but at least he's cute about it. Hehehehe...
....Um, actually, there were *plenty* of same-sex attractions/relationships/jokes/references in mid-90's Western children's programming:
-In "Rocko's Modern" life, Rocko and Heifer go to a hotel (the "No Tell Motel") where they're obviously mistaken for a couple ("How long do you need the room?" "Just till tomorrow." "...All night? *whistles*)
-In "Darkwing Duck", Darkwing and Launchpad kiss, although admittedly its an accidental one... but also consider that absolutely no explanation is given for why Launchpad lives with Darkwing's alias Drake. Two adult males living in the same house, raising a child together? Plus both DW and LP tend to get jealous whenever the other gets a girlfriend.
-A lot of people believe Timon and Pumbaa were a couple (I personally don't believe this, but I can understand the reasoning).
-Bugs Bunny repeatedly has kissed Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam, and Daffy has even kissed Bugs on the cheek a couple of times.
-There's also this little moment in "Tiny Toon Adventures": www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT4sjS…
-"Animaniacs": www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG9-SC… (skip to 2:05, and after that, skip to 8:14)
For a more in-depth look, here's this: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php… (True, it contains several cartoons from more recent times, but it also includes a lot from the 90s, and even some from previous eras)
Sooo, the mere fact that "Road Rovers" came out during the 90s doesn't mean that there wasn't any "hints/suggestions". Plus, here's my reasoning for why I think Hunter could (and only *could*) have had a crush on Blitz:
In episode 2, Hunter asks Blitz, "Can I sniff ya?" to which Blitz bats him away and says, "NO!" Now, you could argue Hunter was just trying to be friendly and Blitz was being anti-social, but in the previous episode where the Rovers greet one another for the first time... they do it in the traditional dog-sense. Which means Hunter and Blitz have, ahem, sniffed one another before. Why would Hunter want to sniff Blitz a second time (and note when he asked, he had a suggestive look on his face), and why would Blitz tell him no if they've done it before? Not unless there was something else going on. Plus, in episode 12, when Hunter calls for a group hug, the one Rover he makes a beeline towards is none other than Blitz, and he hugs the Doberman for an awkwardly long time, *and* he presses their bodies uncomfortably close.
Sooo, yeah. That's my reasoning. But like I said, its just a theory, and I could still very easily be wrong. And what's more, I don't ship HunterxBlitz anyway, because I don't believe Blitz could ever be interested in another male - except maybe where Exile is concerned, but that's another story. ROFL!
*YES*, that one mistake with the window and the plane looking like its falling *up*.. bugs me every time. Lol...
Hm, I might have to take a look at that fic. ^^
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Artaith-21 In reply to MetalExveemon [2015-05-03 04:12:21 +0000 UTC]
Oh, Blitz has the figure, no doubt. I just can't get past a guy that is so selfish, though XD
The difference is though, those examples you gave are all mostly jokes made more at the discomfort people had towards homosexual lifestyles and situations during those eras, not embracing homosexual relationships and actively portraying them. Once again, I see it more as people trying to push an ideal where there isn't one in order to see what they want to see. Your example of 'Darkwing Duck' being such an example. Just because two male adults live in the same household and there is a child in the household, that automatically makes them a potentially gay couple? That's the premise of "Full House" only with 3 dudes and 3 kids, but none of them were ever revealed to be gay.
Just because Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck plants a kiss on Elmer Fudd while harassing them, that automatically makes their sexuality gay or what is being depicted as gay? When I was in Animation School, one of my required courses was Animation History, and one of the things we studied was the prevalence of both suicide and cross-dressing/drag in earlier era animation, especially in the Looney Toons universe. It was played for laughs, not because the creators were trying to depict gay relationships.
Why is Hunter saying 'can I sniff ya?' inherently sexual? I never thought of it that way. There have been many jokes made about the Rovers reverting to old canine habits, esepcially Hunter ( bowl on floor ), especially since in the very same episode they made a big joke of ALL the Rovers sniffing one another in greeting. Hunter's hug was not the producers trying to say, 'oh, he is horny for Blitz'- they were playing up the humor of the awkwardness of how Blitz would feel as the big brawny, 'no puny girlie-mans' type being forced into a sappy group hug. Blitz was a parody of the Hans and Frans and Arnold Schwarzenegger bodybuilding 'action guy' that was so popular in the 80s and 90s.
Sometimes I think people try too hard to manifest something that isn't really there because that's how they want to see it, but I think people should stop trying to rationalize how typically hetereosexually portrayed characters COULD be gay and twist every line and look ( oh, he looked at him for more than a seccond! he wants him! ) and instead we should be focusing on creating new shows that positively and freely depict homosexuals in every day life ( "ParaNorman" is a good example. One of the heroes is a typical good-looking jock, but we don't find out until the end that he actually has a boyfriend, making people realize their kids have been looking up to a gay character this whole time ).
Oh, Blitz has the hots for at leat one guy- himself XD
I don't mean to come off snarky, but I felt like you were really trying to backtalk what I've seen and studied in animation over the last 30+ years of life. There is a huge difference between playing off same-sex awkwardness and 'same-sex cooties' for laughs, and the actual portrayal of actual gay characters and real gay relationships. Assumption doesn't automatically make these characters gay and that is what bugs me the most. It's far past time we just start having canon acknowledged gay in the medium. It's time the LGBT community saw themselves as they are in films and media, and not just as stereotypes, laughs, and assumptions.
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MetalExveemon In reply to Artaith-21 [2015-05-03 04:39:32 +0000 UTC]
In a nutshell, you raise several good points. And what you said towards the end of your message does make me appreciate my own OC, Roger, all the more (as self-centered and vain as that may sound XD). He's got a huge crush on Blitz and frequently hits on him and even licks his face on as many occasions as he possibly can (but Blitz doesn't reciprocate the German Shepherd's feelings, so nothing ever really happens between them), and yet that's not the only thing the defines Roger. He's also a medic (one of Colleen's best students), a martial artist (again, one of Colleen's best students), and has his own Super Powers that come in handy for the Rovers (X-Ray vision and "Evil Sensory" which enables him to predict whenever a villain will appear, as well as what their next move will be in combat).
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Artaith-21 In reply to MetalExveemon [2015-05-03 06:38:24 +0000 UTC]
I dunno, I have to raise some concerns over Roger's judgement- he says he will die for Blitz, but I don't think Blitz will be nearly as chivalrous or loyal enough to ever consider the same XD
And I wouldn't consider it vain or self-centered to appreciate your own character. You should be proud that you created such a well-rounded character.
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MetalExveemon In reply to Artaith-21 [2015-05-03 06:49:43 +0000 UTC]
Heh-heh, don't worry; by the time Roger meets Blitz, the Doberman has already undergone some character development so that he's less cowardly and values his friends more. Plus, Rog would die for *all* his fellow Rovers. Although I suppose in some ways Rog starts off as something of a wide-eyed idealist before having a few 'break the cutie' moments (he still remains cheerful and optimistic, although he noticeably does not uphold the "heroes don't kill" thing; Roger ends up believing that sometimes, the villain *has* to be killed).
Aw, thanks, though half the credit should go to ToonTorment: when I first conceived Roger, he was just a horny tag-along and I couldn't seem to develop him past that. Then ToonTorment wrote a oneshot of Roger interacting with two of his ninja OCs, and he added so much depth to Rog, making him a competent soldier/tracker/medic that it ended up opening the flood-gates on Roger's potential as a character. I've ended up having a lot of fun developing him and his background/storyline, but of course, the person who started it all was ToonTorment.
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Artaith-21 In reply to RatchetJak [2015-04-30 00:07:36 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much. She has been a tough cookie to draw for many years. So glad I've finally been able to nail down a design and look for her that works ^^
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ConnorCat [2015-04-29 01:37:11 +0000 UTC]
Aww poor girl
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Artaith-21 In reply to ConnorCat [2016-01-17 09:07:51 +0000 UTC]
Her story is definitely tragic. But then, I've always liked developing characters with extremely sad backstories xD
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db1993 [2015-04-28 23:25:14 +0000 UTC]
She look nice. So she is evil.
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Chrismilesprower [2015-04-28 22:44:03 +0000 UTC]
She's prettu and looks great.
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