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Published: 2015-02-22 11:50:45 +0000 UTC; Views: 1020; Favourites: 39; Downloads: 0
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Description Somewhere in Bieszczady, Poland.
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BlueCaroline [2015-03-22 01:22:31 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful!

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Writto In reply to BlueCaroline [2015-03-27 11:44:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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A7XFan666 [2015-03-10 01:06:46 +0000 UTC]

gorgeous :3

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Writto In reply to A7XFan666 [2015-03-14 10:54:52 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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A7XFan666 In reply to Writto [2015-03-15 01:42:21 +0000 UTC]

welcome

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jo-i [2015-02-24 10:45:42 +0000 UTC]

That's very nice lighting you found there. Somehow, whenever I'm in a forest it's mostly shady or dark without the sun doing anything interesting. But that might be due to me usually being in a forest when cycling to or from work, i.e. around morning or evening

(And for some reason I read the title as River Song and wondered why the Doctor Who reference – head not really working, and stuff.)

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Writto In reply to jo-i [2015-02-24 14:46:56 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I was quite lucky. I took many shots inside forests and they never seem to work out well.
Maybe I haven't found the key to capturing forest in an interesting way yet. Maybe I'd need a different camera. Maybe I'd need a different forest...

(Oh! River Song wouldn't such a bad title. But being a Doctor Who reference, it wouldn't make sense either. So I guess I'll just leave it as it is, without adjusting reality to what you saw. )

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jo-i In reply to Writto [2015-02-24 15:41:21 +0000 UTC]

Well, it would be strange if reality changed according to what my brain interpreted. Although it could be kinda cool sometimes as well.

My cousin once noted that taking photos in a forest works best during or after rain as it somehow creates a real-world saturation increase automatically. But for some strange reason that's also the time during which I am most unwilling to go outside to take photos. Weird, I know.

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Writto In reply to jo-i [2015-02-27 12:27:47 +0000 UTC]

Could have far-going consequences, actually. Why would brain ever need to learn anything if everything was adjusted to what was happening in it? I wonder what would it lead to - utter chaos and craziness, or something entirely different, a specific form of order in the brain, reflected in reality around it? Interesting how reality would look to such a crazy god.

There is some truth in it - there has to be, after all wet things should reflect the light a bit differently. I also like taking photos of the city after rain, especially at night, when the city lights are reflected in puddles and concrete pores. It's the only time when my camera can handle night shots, actually. Coming back to forests, though, the sky is rarely interesting during or after rain, which is why it's not that much easier to take photos then (talking from self experience, too).

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jo-i In reply to Writto [2015-02-27 19:35:41 +0000 UTC]

That'd kinda make the roles of world and brain reversed. In that the world adapts to what the brain does (which itself is governed by complex processes no one really understands). And of course, the brain wouldn't learn anything, but then again, it wouldn't need to. But conflicts between different realities imposed by different brains might be ... interesting

At night you should first and foremost sleep, dear Kasia, not roam around in a rainy city, taking photos and getting a cold As for forests, there may be the times where it's sunny after rain which might be the perfect time (if it's not too wet).

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Writto In reply to jo-i [2015-03-02 22:24:17 +0000 UTC]

It would be indeed (talking about that conflict of brains). Though I guess something would make some brains more powerful than the other, just as some forces in nature are more powerful than other, which creates order - and perhaps it would be the same things that make some brains more powerful in our reality, for example intelligence, motivation, integrity? (Though maybe I'm wrong with the last one, and perhaps the ability to deceive oneself convincingly gives more power than integrity?) Then I guess some sort of slightly oscilating equilibrium would be reached, where certain brains would hold power over reality. It would be interesting what kind of brains would those be, what reality would they create, and if that reality would change or be static! I pessimistically suppose it would be the boring latter; our brains don't like to change, so if they wouldn't have to, they wouldn't do it, I guess. And there would be no reality to force them... well, at least not for the strongest brains, the weakest brains would still have to adapt - but, since their impact on reality was little from the beginning, they could only change themselves.
(...I feel that reality has very much left this thread. |D)

I... didn't catch a cold this way! And it's most often not really late at night. Just in the evening. Or even winter afternoon, when it's so dark it's practically night.
And you don't need to convince me that I should first and foremost sleep. That is my top 1 thing to do at night, believe me

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jo-i In reply to Writto [2015-03-03 12:12:43 +0000 UTC]

Reality has left, and we somehow came full circle again, back to our starting point that brains adapt. We started with brains that don't adapt and instead change the world around them; And now, assuming that this will nonetheless lead to a static world, brains need to adapt again. But I guess some sort of equilibrium would be needed since otherwise you have those strange oscillations of the world around us when there are two brains in conflict. One changes the world, the other observes and changes it back; then the first one observes and changes it again ... wait a minute. Since all that is based on observation what about those whose observation of the world is flawed in some way? Colourblind people, those on drugs, ... Especially the latter might create a world around them consistent with their hallucinations or altered perception that gradually morphs back into its old form when the effect subsides. Colourblind people might unintentionally change green things to red things.

In any case, the frequency of those oscillations would be the delay between sensory input, processing of it and the brain deciding on a change. You could see your pet change from dog to cat several times a second just because someone mis-remembers you having a dog instead of a cat (while you're aware that you do, in fact, have a cat). Although the dog-ness might persist a while if you're not around to witness the change. So many possibilities

Also all that brain-induced change in the world has a major flaw: The world itself won't change by itself. All the usual models how it works would be gone, because someone might disagree with it. We're no longer bound to observe and build out own mental models but instead we're creators of the world around us, starting from an age at which we cannot even grasp how everything works. Heck, every toddler without object permanence would make everything they cannot see literally disappear. I fear it cannot really work. Or maybe we're back to strong brains and weak brains (all the above assumed kinda equal brains). But then you'd still have strong brains that come into conflict, I guess. If there would be an equilibrium, it'd be tenuous at best, I think.

Has this gone too far? *hides*

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Writto In reply to jo-i [2015-03-06 20:55:51 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. But if we assume equal brains, then at least their influence has to be territorially limited, weakening. Imagine, for example, a world where gravity would work everywhere with the same force. It would never... bang. Nothing interesting would ever happen. Everything would be in check of  infinite gravity. In our universe the major force would be brains, and I think the system would collapse somehow if the force of each brain was infinite and equal. Maybe it would collapse to the things we all have in common... Like merging millions of images of faces into one would create one big blurry shape of a face with a blurry shape of eyes and blurry outline of hair. And it (the world) would never change. All the individual differences would never show.

So, how would it look like? What do most people think about or perceive the world? Probably the things we'd all have in common would be cognitive biases... It could be that stereotypes would start to be strictly true! The phrase "If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts" would be a law of the universe  Funnily enough though - one thing that I'm also almost sure of - is that our brains would create a world's model that would be inevitably contradictory... We're not logical like computers, after all. And that could cause the whole system to collapse anyway, even if we assume that the influence of each brain weakens with distance; I'm pretty sure that a world with contradictory rules couldn't exist.

Well, that ended the fun quite unexpectedly.

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ActiveShooter [2015-02-23 00:56:10 +0000 UTC]

Lovely, I though you would be under snow now?

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Writto In reply to ActiveShooter [2015-02-23 08:51:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh! Right. I didn't notice when the EXIF data got lost during editing. It should be back now.
And yeah, I would be under snow now, if we had a real winter here. But apparently most of it moved to Boston.

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ActiveShooter In reply to Writto [2015-02-24 01:10:05 +0000 UTC]

2013? It took 2 years to upload?
Yes, send it all the snow to USA, hopefully it will freeze up their drones.

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Writto In reply to ActiveShooter [2015-02-24 13:18:36 +0000 UTC]

I used an old-fashioned analogue uploader (sended the picture through post to the server address... the physical address)... using Polish Post. Not such a great idea, as it comes out.
But won't they send the drones elsewhere to keep them from freezing then?

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ActiveShooter In reply to Writto [2015-02-24 13:42:35 +0000 UTC]

Ah, you used the Polish Post? Fantastic idea, you're a genius!
I'm a bit of an expert on Poland, I once went to the capital - Prague. They speak German there so I was able to converse with the locals: "Bonjour mon amis!"

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Writto In reply to ActiveShooter [2015-02-24 14:21:59 +0000 UTC]

Still, you got the idea quickly!
To draw a better picture for you, here's a scene that happened to me recently, twice: a friend sent me a package and told me about it, and I waited and waited, but nothing came. So I went to the Post Office:
'There should be a package for me here.'
'Do you have the notification?'
'I didn't get any notification, but I know it was sent and had enough time to get here by now.'
'But hurr durr how can we check without a notification? Okay, name and ID please. No, nothing in the system.' - (goes to look for the package, of course it is shoved there somewhere) - 'Here.'
'Well, thank you. Why didn't I get any notification?'
(shrug) 'How would I know?'

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ActiveShooter In reply to Writto [2015-02-24 18:05:52 +0000 UTC]

Hah! It sounds like a model of efficiency, is it still run by Soviets?

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Writto In reply to ActiveShooter [2015-02-26 19:04:19 +0000 UTC]

Not officially... though maybe at heart  

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