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What-the-Gaff — Spider-Man 4 Idea
Published: 2008-10-29 06:31:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 2159; Favourites: 41; Downloads: 30
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If it were up to me, the fourth movie would be a cross between Kraven's Last Hunt and the Other with a gang of Spidey's animal themed villains and Kraven actually being cool.Related content
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Now that is a great little tease. That would've made a great film, with the right budget, cast, soundtrack and director.
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i have been keeping up with the spider-man movie news since it was only rumors and im sorry to say spidy 4, aint gonna happen.Sam raimi dug himself a hole so deep that marvel just pushed him in and filled it with concrete.
spider-man 4, as of right before cancellation, was gonna feature (and tell me if im wrong that this was a plethera of shit ideas) the vulture played by john malkovitch as the main bad guy and anne hathaway as felicia hardy, whos supposed to be the black cat, marvel's hottest character(in my opinion) only instead of becoming the black cat she would become...wait for it...THE VULTURESS! the realese of this news cause the marvel fan base to borderline crucify raimi and marvel striped him of directing rights.
now thay are making a reboot here is the cast so far:
spider-man/peter parker- andrew garfeild(the social network)
Gwen Stacy- Emma stone(zombieland)
Dr. Curt Connors / The Lizard- Rhys Ifans(harry potter and the deathly hollows pt1)
ben parker- martin sheen(if you dont know who martin sheen is your fail at life)
aunt may- sally fields
captain george stacy- DENISE FUCKIN LEARY! (rescue me)
for other(lesser cast) and news check the wiki-page: [link]
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By now, I know it's not happening too, so there's no need to point it out. I've been keeping up too.
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I was kinda' hoping SM 4 would be like 'Dissasembled' or 'Reign'.But unfortunately it seems the next movie will be a spin-off titled 'Venom'.
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I thought that the plot of Spider-Man 4 was him fighting his own angst, but then I realized that was the plot of Spider-Man 3.
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Thats not a bad idea
might be better than the god awful Spider Man 3
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I agree with everyone that Spidey 3 fell way short, but I wouldn't say it was "god awful." I reserve that label for the truly, indisputably, offensively bad films. Like Batman & Robin or Catwoman, probably Fantastic Four as well.
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You don't know how close to becoming true that story is. The fourth one's plot(If there will be one) is rumored to be tied up with Lizard, Kraven, and Spidey, and based off of KLH.
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loving the entire pitch... though sadly it may never happen...
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Might want to be careful with the number of villains. Spidey could get lost int he shuffle. Two villains is good, because he really has to watch his back; three is pushing it because they all have to be introduced and people have to be given a little of the backstory and in movies, time is limited.
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The animal themed villains I thought of were Scorpion, Rhino, and Vulture. I figured that as tech-based villains, I could introduce them as a gang of criminals using modified Oscorp technology.
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If we treat them as a group, then they can share most of their screentime and we don't have to take too much time away from Spidey and Kraven. To make things easier, they'd already be in action at the beginning of the film, making trouble for the Web Slinger while Kraven is given a full background.
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Maybe; but you have to remember that while Rhino is just a thug in a suit (to my knowledge), both Vulture and and Scorpion have slightly more complex backgrounds. Things can get tricky, converting a comic book or comic book characters to the silver screen.
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I liked the Other as well. I felt Spidey being tied to mystical origins added a nice breath of fresh air to the Spidey mythos. Heck, I loved a lot of what BND retconned.
a KLH/TO hybrid sounds like a great idea. Hopefully it would be better written than Spidey 3.
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do you mean man spider vs kraven or spiderman vs kraven, sorpion, rhino, vulture, etc.
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Scorpion, Rhino, and Vulture are actually the villains I had in mind.
I thought about them as a team of crooks using reverse engineered Oscorp technology. Vulture would be using bits of the old Goblin glider, Scorpion's tail would be a modified version of Doc Ock's tentacle harness [which was also Oscorp tech, we'll remember], and Rhino would be doped out of his tiny mind on the super soldier serum under an armored suit.
If you write them as a team, it can save time on the origin story, and they'd be sharing most of their screentime as a single entity. After all, they are tech based villains. Kraven would be presented as separate from them.
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very good ideas. however to many villians may ruin the movie.
why not a prequil to what you are talking of.
hobgoblin steals oscorp tech and crime lab evidence and some how spiderman mutates into man spider.
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I think we've all had enough of the Goblins at this point [unless Norman himself comes back from the dead], and the Man-Spider is a little too over the top. I know Sam Raimi is known for over the top monsters like that, but the Other has a kind of subtlety that works better. If we go with an animal themed villain along with Kraven, it sets the tone of the film much better. ComicArtCritic suggested the Lizard, which may work better since the character of Doctor Conners is already part of the series.
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the reason I suggest the man spider is that all the spiderman movies are so depressing. I want the internal conflict to be something that is less real like fear of turning into a monster and killing everyone. I was thinking a switch back and forth thing.
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Never read KLH but loved The other and the idea of there being a magical force behind Spidey's powers. Beautiful piece! Except I think it'd look nicer with words spaced a bit more between lines.
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Kraven's Last Hunt is a good one. It was actually the first Spider-Man story I ever read. Very dark and visceral stuff.
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Yes. The Other. It was a major point in Stracynski's run on Amazing SM before they started this whole "Brand New Day" crap. Some people thought it was weird, but really, I think of it as a continuation of the Kraven's Last Hunt story.
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You mena the part where Spidey's having the birthing dreams as he's fighting his way back to the surface? Yeah, I see how those two could line up. I kind of liked some of the powers from The Other like night vision, the ability to stick people to himself and the ability to feel vibations through his webbing (since I've always figured Spidey's spider sense was actually the ability to feel movements through air vibrations I esspecially loved that idea)...but when you came to organic webbing, stingers and the ability to talk to spiders...yeah...
Not that being shared with two other writers trying to get thier own points out before Civil War did the story any real favours. And one part being drawn by Pat Lee...yuck.
I do really like your idea for the film though. Having the animal themed guys like Vulture and Rhino sounds great. You could even have Kraven beleive in Ezekiel's totem theory by having him as amember of a cult that hunts down totems for sport. After being burried, we could get that garden scene out of the other as just some kind of hullicination Peter has trying to get to the surface. Also, since I always figured what was fun about the totem explination was that it was subtely implied for most of the run, you've got the question of ''Okay, Kraven SAYS my powers are magic, but he's nuts...right?''
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You mean the part where Peter's hallucinating as he makes his way back to the surface? Yeah, I like how that could line up. I don't think being done by two other writers each being rushed to get to Civil War really did it any favours though. And Pat Lee doing the Sensational portion...yuck.
Who'd you have in mind for the other guys? Vulture? Rhino? Maybe even the Spider Slayers? Heck, I'd even take the Puma.
(A lot of people are wondering 'Who the hell is the Puma?)
Provided the mythical origon is implied rather than flat out said (I always felt that was part of the appeal, are the powers mythical or are they not? If the totem idea is so subtle the idea of the spider transfering the powers intentonally rather than accidently never occured to Peter until now then there's the entire question of what the radiation in his blood actually makes him, and it's entierly belevable that vampiric creatures like Morlun could hunt him down just because he vaugely fits the criteria for a totem even if he isn't one in the sense Ezekiel was.) then you could have the orbweaver or whatever it was called and just say it was part of Peter's delusion in the cofin. Also, Kraven being part of a weird cult that hunts totems for sport is a good way to get the idea into the movie. Okay Kraven says he got his powers from a magical spider fairy, but he's just nuts...right?
I really do like the idea of the other villains as just goons though. That's what their usually treated as and sometimes just are anyway.
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