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solariabons [2019-01-30 17:39:14 +0000 UTC]
Absolutely adore all the reasearch put into thsi piece, the writeup is extremely informative, love it when we are able to see parts of the character's creation process. Really like her, nice character design and very cool outfit!
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rabastanlestrange [2018-11-13 22:11:26 +0000 UTC]
I couldn't help but 'ing every single piece in your gallery starring Athdara: I simply love this OC of yours!
Not only I find it delightful how you go to great lengths to draw her in (mostly) historically accurate clothing, however hard it may be to do tartan right, but I love the little textpieces you add where you go into those digressiones about weaponry, linguistics and, of course, clothing. It really shows how much thought you put into this fine lady.
I'd also have one possible suggestion about Athdara's background, since you seemed not to have taken a final decision about it yet in one of your previous pics. Could she possibly be-- a brigand? Or a border reiver, to borrow a historical term? The 1600's were the zenith of Scottish brigandage and the English Civil War (or Wars of the Three Kingdoms, to be precise) was a real boon for Scottish outlaws. I could really see Athdara as a quasi-legendary reiver, kicking so much ass all by herself that the English do not even believe that she really exists since there's no way all those raids could have been carried out by fewer than a dozen men working together. It would also be a possible explanation for her kinda-sorta anachronistic foot jewellery: if pirates have the right to incorporate unusual accessories in their look, why not bandits?
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WelderFace In reply to rabastanlestrange [2018-11-13 23:51:18 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. To be honest, outside of my Goblin characters, I think Athdara is probably my favourite character to draw. The relative realism I get to impart to her is a refreshing change!
And yes, the outfit is very fun to draw. I like to think of it as 80% historical, 10% Whimsy, 10% making it up as I go along. And, I think my main issue with tartan is the fact that as a leftie, I end up smudging my pencil work to near oblivion XD
I'm fond of those little textpieces, too. I don't get to flex my historical interest as often as I'd like, so Athdara's my main outlet for it. Hopefully I can think of more interesting babble to put together for the next drawing.
I'm really glad you suggested this idea for background though. It's an area I'd looked at, since, you're correct: The epoch of the reivers, and the time-period I picture Athdara in coincide perfectly. I think the only things that had stopped me from inserting her into that setting were A) I'd have to learn to draw horses, given Reivers were generally mounted And B) I was sort of struggling to reconcile the whole 'bandits are the baddies' sort of thing. I'm a sucker for goody-two-shoes (or, goody no shoes, maybe?) characters. I mean, I guess she could have a 'Robin Hood' sort of vibe. A chaotic good sort of thing. You're right with her eccentric style, too, the individuality of the reivers would allow a lot of leeway there.
I'll give it some thought, for sure, and really appreciate you offering up the suggestion. I mean, if nothing else, it's got to be better than my 'possible angry camp-follower' idea, right?
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rabastanlestrange In reply to WelderFace [2018-11-15 10:59:43 +0000 UTC]
Heh, who doesn't like goody-no-shoes female characters, I wonder? But perhaps it's all a matter of context and the parameters to measure somebody's goodness in a troubled period like 17th century Scotland might be different. And aside from that, good should not mean meek. She strikes me as a fighter and as a woman who never quits and is very much in love with the feeling of being free. And because of that I really struggle to see her as a perfectly integrated cog of the Scottish society of those times (things were downright oppressive for non-conformists in that age!). And since she looks like the kind of person who's pretty happy with sleeping under the starry night sky and feeling the bare ground under her toes, she's ultimately OK with being labelled as an outlaw.
In fact, I could very well see Athdara making a forested valley into her own personal kingdom and offering temporary shelter to those who have lost everything while being the merciless foe of everyone wishing harm to her little slice of heaven. Give it a century and you'll have more songs about Athdara across both sides of the border than flocks of sheep! And at that point I dare anybody to paint her as a villain.
Thank you for reading my speculations and for the !
P.S. It's hard to tell from the b&w, but is Athdara afiery redhead? It would compliment her look, I think.
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WelderFace In reply to rabastanlestrange [2018-11-15 12:54:21 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I think if I was going to measure goodness in those turbulent years, I'd measure it by how she treated people, and not by how well she followed the laws. That said, I'd never pictured her as meek, irrespective of what job she would be doing (I don't think anyone could call any of my characters meek, ) I think she definitely fits as a bit of a freedom fighter, and, like you say, someone like that wouldn't really slot in well into the 17th century world. Much less a woman, who'd get it even worse.
I think, therefore, you're right. The idea of her being an outlaw, with the 'end goal' of improving her, and her comrades' lot in life, is pretty nice. The idea of her having a little valley, or other area of land for herself and her company is also really nice, and, I think, a very good direction to take her. Yeah, Chieftain of her own little clan of waifs, urchins, outlaws and misfits. Very Robin Hood, I can dig it! I'm going to work on your idea a little more, but, this is probably the most concrete background she's ever had, so thank you! It's been a huge help, with you offering up these excellent ideas!
Oh, and yes, of course: I don't think she would look right without a mane of flaming hair. Of course, in lieu of any actual colour, folks will just have to use their imagination, haha!
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rabastanlestrange In reply to WelderFace [2018-11-16 22:39:02 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much for the attention you reserved to my little bout of brainstorming. Feels great to have given some input to a fellow artist.
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WelderFace In reply to rabastanlestrange [2018-11-16 23:14:36 +0000 UTC]
No, thank you for offering the ideas up!
To be honest, the ability to 'bounce' ideas off another artist is something I've missed since my college days!
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