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AirfixNikon [2021-08-31 18:48:13 +0000 UTC]

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dogwiz666 [2021-03-06 19:28:15 +0000 UTC]

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TheGreenMoon In reply to dogwiz666 [2021-03-07 02:18:37 +0000 UTC]

I made this in ArtRage, so the size is actually very small, nothing like the res you can get in photoshop, unfortunately. Glad you like it though!!

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summerartistart [2018-02-15 22:04:59 +0000 UTC]

Aww Poor Garak. He looks amazing though!  

Ditto about the fantastic brushwork. Great skin tones too!

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TheGreenMoon In reply to summerartistart [2018-02-16 20:09:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Dahkur [2018-02-15 16:38:46 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful style and a very good Garak expression. I love the way the brush strokes show - looks like like traditional!

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TheGreenMoon In reply to Dahkur [2018-02-15 17:39:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It's a lot of fun contouring with color and letting the brush strokes define the three dimensional image.

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noxfoxArts [2018-02-15 11:13:11 +0000 UTC]

Such a good episode and such a nice roughed-up Garak!!

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TheGreenMoon In reply to noxfoxArts [2018-02-15 17:51:25 +0000 UTC]

It's the moment when he realizes that they are all in the bodies of condemned Bajorans who will soon be killed xD xD 'I didn't sign up for this!!!!'

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noxfoxArts In reply to TheGreenMoon [2018-02-17 10:25:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes! It's such a good episode honestly (also for the fact that Jadzia gets to knock-out Dukat; that was glorious)
I really like how Garak tried to show the Cardassian point of view, though, because even if it's biased, you can't get lasting peace without trying to understand both sides. That doesn't make the Cardassians right, but you can't reason with them if you don't talk the same language as them.

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TheGreenMoon In reply to noxfoxArts [2018-02-18 19:00:32 +0000 UTC]

It hits pretty close to home too, with the ongoing political discourse and social issues we deal with today. Its very hard to have civil discourse on those topics, but it is necessary. It's great that Garak gets pretty racist in this episode, and right in front of Sisko; connecting the fictional oppression of the Bajorans to those of real life. And I felt so bad for Odo the whole episode. ;( ;( 

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noxfoxArts In reply to TheGreenMoon [2018-02-22 01:05:11 +0000 UTC]

Yes... I think that episode tells us a lot about how out of touch Cardassia was with the Occupation of Bajor, considering that even Garak, who was very high ranking in the Order, obviously had very little idea of what was really going on (then again, he's also a special snowflake who manages to walk on thin ice without having any idea of what's going on). I guess that the side that was lacking a bit in DS9 however was, if we'd seen Bajorans express regret for the lives of innocent Cardassians who died in their attacks -- because Cardassians were painted pretty much like Nazis are painted in movies. And we know that not all Germans and others enrolled in the reich's army were fanatics. Most of them were just people doing their duty, with no idea of what horrors their government was committing, and it doesn't serve anyone to paint the whole picture in black and white.
On that kinda topic we got "Cardassians" which was pretty good, "Duet" which was great, and "The Darkness and the Light" which was a most useless episode. We never really got to see Bajorans expressing more nuanced opinions nor did we ever get to know how many Cardassians were killed through the Occupation, and that's a pity.

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TheGreenMoon In reply to noxfoxArts [2018-02-23 17:36:06 +0000 UTC]

But also Garak grew up during the Occupation, so the 50+ year Bajoran Oppression was just a fact of life for him tbh (I always considered him to be mid-40s during DS9), and from a national perspective, it was beneficial for Cardassia so I can understand why he'd be all for it lol.

Yeah, I agree, that would have been good to show. I do like the different shifts of power Cardassia has throughout the whole series, which I think breaks them apart from the Nazi equivalent thing and I bet a big part of Garak's existence was to show that nuanced side of his race. Just like Odo with the changelings!

Duet was soooo good I wish there was a terrorist group inside Cardassia against the Occupation or something, or like Cardassian pacifists lol.

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noxfoxArts In reply to TheGreenMoon [2018-02-24 08:53:50 +0000 UTC]

The Occupation actually lasted 40 years barely^^ Although, I think contact between the Cardassians and Bajorans might have taken place some more time before, with an attempt at something smoother rather than blunt military invasion: if it'd been the case, the resistance might have started sooner. I think the Cardassians weren't even seeking to occupy nor colonize at first, because Bajor was too close from the Federation, and they feared the Federation greatly. But it's just my personal headcanon that it started with the Obsidian Order hunting Cardassian religious escapees, and that the military stepped into that like the opportunists they were, generously offering "protection" to the Bajorans.

Natima Lang was likely one such person, considering she cared for the Bajorans (and fell in love with Quark because he too cared for them enough to pay them a wage). I tend to think that the Bajoran Resistance was indeed successful in driving out the Cardassians, because they had caused enough dead that the civilians had enough of losing family members posted on Bajor as military or civilians. That they dared voice that opinion must have been a very sudden and brutal tidal shifts in the politics, and one the military didn't see coming. Because the thing is, civilians are mostly pacifists: they believe the military exists to protect them, not to expand. They approve of destroying the enemy lurking around the borders, not of invading dangerous systems and starting wars.

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AloiInTheSky [2018-02-14 13:37:09 +0000 UTC]

Such a wonderful portrait of Garak~ So expressive

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TheGreenMoon In reply to AloiInTheSky [2018-02-14 16:52:56 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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suburbantimewaster [2018-02-14 01:25:35 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that's very well drawn!  You bring justice to my favorite DS9 character.

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TheGreenMoon In reply to suburbantimewaster [2018-02-14 16:55:32 +0000 UTC]

:3 I'm glad! 

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suburbantimewaster In reply to TheGreenMoon [2018-02-14 20:17:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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