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MichiLauke [2012-09-30 11:41:58 +0000 UTC]

Congratulation! This fine infrared photo is featured in #r72 Journal as Best of Sept. 2012! -->> [link]

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WaterlightFading [2012-09-12 00:26:02 +0000 UTC]

This is...breathtaking~

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Okavanga [2012-09-03 06:34:05 +0000 UTC]

Very good rhythm of light and shade.

Neat Work

David

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sorny In reply to Okavanga [2012-09-03 08:03:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks alot

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DimensionSeven [2012-09-02 19:33:57 +0000 UTC]

tones are very much to my liking!

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-02 19:46:13 +0000 UTC]

Hehe thanks
I finally get along with D90, took alot of trial and error to get pleasing results!

And, ehm, I sold the 16-85... The samyang 8mm is now again the only lens in my setup, and i love that

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DimensionSeven In reply to sorny [2012-09-02 21:26:57 +0000 UTC]

why did you sell it? money issues or was it the lens's fault?

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-03 07:57:56 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, the lens was just not the right thing for me. I had a hard time composing because the zoom made me insecure and I rearranged the composition again and again and again. That kinda sucked...
So for now I bought the Samyang 85mm 1.4

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DimensionSeven In reply to sorny [2012-09-03 14:52:31 +0000 UTC]


Gotta post some samples!
Wouldn't buy a manual focus f1.4 myself though - the samyang 14mm would have been a better choice IMO for you. And I hear that they have a 24 f3.5 PC lens in the pipeline as well. Surely a gap in the market - affordable PC lenses, esp on the wide side, that's something that Nikon lacks. Canon at least has a 17 mm PC (also great for IR - check ~ericbb ) although not in the affordable price range.
(now with the rumors around about the 24MP 16bit FX Nikon D600 at 1500USD at Photokina 2012, I have my eyes on some affordable FX lenses... )

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-03 20:23:36 +0000 UTC]

I actually bought the Samyang to try some bokeh-infrared-photograhy. Haven't seen any of those yet, maybe its for a reason^^...

And you are really after the D600. For me its a total nogo since the body itself will be cheap. I'd defintily prefer a next-gen D300s instead of a cheap FX body. Maybe its because I dont get the FX idea yet. Bigger sensor, better quality, ok, but the price is, hmm, a dealbreaker^^

Actually I wanted to buy the 14mm Samyang, but I wanted a portrait lens^^ first. But the 14mm will is the next thing on my wishlist

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DimensionSeven In reply to sorny [2012-09-03 21:50:05 +0000 UTC]

From what I've read, the D600 will basically be a D7000 with a tweaked D3X sensor. And as the D7000 is (in terms of features) at the level of the D300 series (real mirror lock up, AF microadjustment, AI-lens support, etc), just smaller and lighter (less aluminium), I doubt cheap would mean highly stripped down. The price difference between the D7000 now and the upcoming $1500 D600 (if it's true) is not much, not more than a DX D400 would be.

The real difference is in the upgrade of all the rest in the camera bag: Lee filter system with 5-6 Lee filters and Cokin color X sized filters, Samyang 14mm, Nikkor 16-35 f/4 VR. Later the 50 1.8 AFD would be upgraded for AFS, and the 28 1.8 and 85 1.8 AFS lenses are too sweet to pass too. Basically everything had to go I use now. Only the 105 Sigma macro could stay. The 70-300VR is poor on FX, so it had to be upgraded for the 70-200f/4 VR later as well (which I think will be announced along the D600 as the last part of the f/4 zooms)... Not to speak from the IR setup - why keep the 16-85VR + 10-24 lenses with the DX D90, when I could highly reduce the size/weight of the bag with an FX-visible + FX-IR camera combo? (D600 + D700/D600?) Aaaand, there's currently no midrange zoom from Nikon that's good in IR as well, except for the 1kg 24-70 f2.8 monster lens. Nooo, that thing is not for my back and wrists! Oh, and a new tripod for the heavier wide lens (carbon fiber preferably) wouldn't hurt either...

To sum up: FX is a b*tch!

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-04 20:49:05 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, you made my day^^ But its true, upgrading to FX is freakin expensive... Lets see what photokina will bring us

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DimensionSeven In reply to sorny [2012-09-21 17:26:29 +0000 UTC]

It has brought what we had expected - except for the price - 2100 USD... Which turned into 660.000 HUF (~2300 Euros) in Hungary...
Had a brief tapping this week in my local camera store - it's nice, but I didn't have the "instant buy" feeling - the AF system is the same as in the D7000, therefore all the 39 AF points are cramped into the center of the frame. The D800 has them more spread out. But there's no way I ever buy a D800!

I've made some research about the Samyang 8mm lens. In Hungarian online stores I could only find the chipped version, for 30% more than the non-chipped version comes from the Slovakian reseller - samyanglens.com Don't know about the used marked prices yet, but the Nikon goes for about twice as the Samyang. The sharpness is not much behind the Nikon 10.5, the angle is wider, the distortion more even. Problem is that it's slower and it needs to be stopped down to f/5.6-f/8 to perform the best, while the nikon is best at f 2.8-f/4 already. Farewell to astrophotography... The weight of the Samyang is also significantly bigger than the Nikon's.
Is it true that it has a metal lens hood? Isn't that dangerous on the front lens in the camera bag? Does it need some fixing? The Nikon has a plastic, rubber-like lens hood, and when it comes off in the bag, it does no harm to the front lens.

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-21 17:53:23 +0000 UTC]

I also checked the D600 at my local camera store, my opinion: Lets wait for the D400 release
The body is just too small for me, and upgrading to FX is too expensive^^

About the Samyang: Check amazon.de for a relabled "Walimex Pro" 8mm lens. Not sure if they are chipped or not.
About the lens hood... DEFINITLY not metal, and it does not come off that easily, or lets say, it never happened to me that it came off in the bag.
But the performance below f5.6 is not that bad. I actually never left the range from f5.6 to f8 yet since I'm using it for infrared photography only

Kinda funny, about 5 of my friends now also own the Samyang 8mm, noone ever reported something bad until now...

Btw: Instead of buying a 85mm f1.4, i, ehm, finally bought photoshop CS6 (:

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DimensionSeven In reply to sorny [2012-09-21 19:07:01 +0000 UTC]

Dx00 is not for me - i don't like the size/weight of it. A D80/90/7000/600 with the vertical grip is about right for my hands. A gripped Dx00 would be even better of course, but it's too much weight for my wrists. I need to take care of my hands and fingers - I'm learning endoscopy now...

Gonna check amazon.de, but I guess the shipping would make it too expensive in the end. The Slovenian site ships it for free in the EU.

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-21 21:44:07 +0000 UTC]

amazon.de usually ships for free, at least to austria (:
I'm desperatily waiting for a d300s replacement, great body, weathersealed, perfect size ;(
Or a fuji x100 finally finds its way into my hands

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DimensionSeven In reply to sorny [2012-09-22 10:20:52 +0000 UTC]

[link]
This shall rock on FX! I've always wanted to try one of those TS lenses. Wonder wheather it shall be of any use on DX.

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-22 11:48:39 +0000 UTC]

Of what i heard of is that it is going to rock on DX too but of course the FX performance is way better...

But the new samyang 10mm looks more interesting for DX users: [link]
If the price is hot, I'm going to get one around xmas, of course if its released until then

Samyang kinda tends to announce their lenses very early and releases them like half a year later...

Btw: I missunderstood your question about the lens hood of the 8mm. Thought you mean the lens cap (shame on me!)...
Still the lens hood made out of plastic and is not detachable. Only the new version of the 8mm has a lens hood that is detachable.

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DimensionSeven In reply to sorny [2012-09-23 09:28:00 +0000 UTC]

The 10mm prime has no filter thread - which means useless for outdoor usage. An angle this wide needs some kind of filtering (GND or polarizer). And for IR it surely will flare like hell with a front element as bulbous as that will have.

Btw, I've indeed ment the lens cap... Sorry!

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sorny In reply to DimensionSeven [2012-09-23 19:20:37 +0000 UTC]

Geee, no filter thread, that was unexpected...

Haha, so neither the lens cap nor the lens hood are made out of metal but plastic ;D

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PhoenixMCH [2012-09-02 19:16:11 +0000 UTC]

ein wunderschΓΆner Moment

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sorny In reply to PhoenixMCH [2012-09-02 19:43:20 +0000 UTC]

Danke

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PhoenixMCH In reply to sorny [2012-09-03 21:33:05 +0000 UTC]

bitte gern!

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