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Published: 2014-03-02 23:25:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 2461; Favourites: 11; Downloads: 7
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A little map I made up but never got around to uploading. Yes, yet another Confederate victory map. This map was made just for fun, so you all know.Β The Confederacy has gotten a jump start on acquiring territory further south, with plans to annex Cuba, if the Yankees don't beat them to it. Quebec, having taken inspiration from the Confederacy, has declared itself independent of Canada, with covert French backing. The United States has purchased the Baja California peninsula from the Mexican government in an effort to counter southern expansionism. They also bought a portion of British Columbia from the Canadians as part of the Alabama Claims as the state of Jefferson. Due to them expending much energy on Baja California and Jefferson, Alaska remains a Russian possession for the time being.I made some adjustments thanks to some input.
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Arbarano has a point. Cape Breton would be a part of Acadia and Anticosti a part of Quebec.
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I'll take care of it.
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I know it is just for fun, but how can Cap-Breton and Anticosti be part of Canada?
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Looks like Alaska needs to be recolored. Description says it is owned by Russia but map indicates it is owned by the United States.
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Ooh! Glad you caught that!
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Nice map, its hard to be completely original with Civil War maps :/ I have only a few suggestions/questions.
-Why did Mexico go and annex southern Guatemala, and if they wanted to expand why not annex the Peten province in the north? Peten is much less densely populated and probably less of a hassle to occupy than all the way down to the densely populated Guatemala city.
-It sucks that the CSA didn't get the Indian Territory, but I assume you have your reasons.
-Baja California was a single territory of Mexico with a very small population. It doesn't make much sense for the peninsula to be split into two states.
-Unless there is a specific reason, Queen Charlotte Island is a part of Canada, not of Alaska.
-If you're gonna have Quebec called "Republique du Quebec", then Mexico might as well be "Imperio de Mexico".
-Depending on the date Quebec seceded from Canada, it is very likely that it would not have control of the Ungava peninsula.
-Great Britain would never let the USA "purchase" British Columbia, but as a part of the Alabama Claims, it might be more believable.
-This is just for my own joy, but when I have British Columbia as part of the USA, I usually name it "Washington" as a jibe at my Canadian friends and because it seemed most likely in historical context, but Jefferson is fine too.
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Like I said, this was just for fun. I'll make some changes though. Thanks for the input.
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Sure thing.
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Thank you. I updated it this morning
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Nice. I'm guessing that Mexico didn't actually conquer Peten, it received it in a territorial exchange for the more densely populated Chiapas?
The only things I still question:
-Queen Charlotte Island (the big island south of the Alaskan panhandle) belonged to the British before the POD, so unless there's some specific reason that the British gave it to Russia, it would be part of Canada.
-More importantly, when the Dominion of Canada was formed in 1867, the province of Quebec's northern boundary was the watershed of the St. Lawrence River, only about half of its current territory, and wasn't extended north until 1898 when it was expanded to the Eastmain River. Quebec didn't reach its full size until 1912. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorβ¦
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Ok, I've finished. Thanks for the help!
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Okay this is more for your own thought than anything else, but here are a few things I would recommend you researching to either edit this map or when you make a new one.
-The Dominion of Newfoundland didn't join Canada until 1949, and it only did because Great Britain feared that it would voluntarily be annexed to the USA after it stationed troops there during WWII.
-The Labrador Boundary Dispute between the dominions of Canada and Newfoundland wasn't resolved until 1927.
-If Quebec is independent, then it is much more likely that the maritime provinces of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island would have formed their own dominion, probably called "Acadia".
-Since Lower Canada has seceded (presumably before the 1867 creation of the dominion, maybe a different name, such as "Laurentia" could be used. (Although personally I prefer Canada)
-It is very unlikely that Russia would have kept Alaska as a territorial liability. In all likelihood, they would have either sold Alaska to the USA, who would have wanted it as a possible launching point to invade Canada, or to Great Britain, who would be looking to acquire more Pacific coastal territories after losing British Columbia.
-If the USA were to purchase Alaska, then I would look into the Alaskan border dispute with British Columbia to decide for yourself if the British would be pushing for the farthest west border to expand their coastline.
-The USA claimed more of Columbia than that, but I presume you have your reasons.
-The original proposed state of "West Virginia" was actually called "Kanawha" and was slightly smaller than OTL, made up only of counties that actual seceded voluntarily. Look up 'Kanawha state map" on google images.
-Just a personal blip, I always try and include Missouri south of the Missouri River and either keep it as Missouri or rename it "Ozark", but its not completely necessary.
-Have of the 5 Civilized Tribes actually fought on the side of the CSA, and I usually have the Indian Territory as part of the CSA, but I guess you have your reasons for not including Sequoyah.
-If you ever did include Sequoyah, Texas would be able to annex No Man's Land and Greer County in OTL Oklahoma.
-I always prefer to unite Tamaulipas, Nuevo Leon, and Coahuila into a state called "Rio Grande", "Rio Bravo", or "Sierra Madre" due to their unique history as an independent republic.
-The Chihuahua - Durango state border was a straight line until 1917 Β when it was changed to the modern border.
I hope that gives you food for thought.
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I added some of your suggestions to the map.
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Ok, thanks
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