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Published: 2019-04-25 02:06:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 6764; Favourites: 69; Downloads: 8
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America is Israel's puppet, not the other way around...
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At this point I'm unsure if I want to stick it out and see a slow movement away from capitalism or just full nuclear acceleration
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People need to understand that criticizing the Israeli government and being anti-Semitic is not the same thing.
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True the Israeli government has done it's fair share of wrongs and under Netanyahu have been counter intuitive to the peace process, but people ignore the fact the Palestinian leadership has been a far greater obstruction to the peace process. They've had numerous occasions where they could have had their own state. It's obvious Hamas wants to destroy Israel and Fatah's long term ambition has been the destruction of Israel. I've never been under the impression that the Palestinians care more about peace and having their own state than they are in the destruction of Israel. They'd gladly give up their sovereignty to a neighboring Arab State if it meant driving the Jews into the ocean.
Frankly I'd choose the Stable Liberal Western Democracy over an Unstable Theocratic Islamic Autocracy.
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I don't think it's one or the other. Obviously Hamas and Fatah aren't going to help the situation, but their longevity could be attributed to Israel's occupation causing anti-Israeli sentiments. If a UN transitional authority was established over a non-occupied Palestine, extremism could be allowed to fizzle out, followed by full Palestinian independence. However, Israel doesn't seem to want to do that.
If Israel really wants peace, they can start by putting Palestinians under civilian law instead of military law, and building colonial settlements. It should also probably stop spreading propaganda on YouTube and blaming any and all criticism on antisemitism. Then I'll stop seeing them as the bad guys.
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You don't seem to know the history of the Palestinians all that well, or it's current situation. Palestine has it's own government, or more specifically two for that matter. The Palestinians are not ruled directly by Israel, but in the West Bank by the Palestinian Authority controlled by Fatah and by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. As part of the attempted peace process in 2006 the Palestinians were allowed to hold legislative elections. That same year the Israeli's tore down all the settlements in the Gaza strip. You want to know which party did the best in those elections and won the most votes and seats? It was Hamas one of the most radical and anti-Israel factions out there. This election led to the utter deterioration of the peace process. The Palestinian people didn't even choose the Fatah party which lead the PLO and was only less radical than Hamas in that they no longer called for the destruction of Israel. The Palestinians in Gaza still support Hamas even though they've brought nothing, but death and ruin to the strip. They spend resources making bombs and tunnels instead of building roads and schools. Their is a deep rooted cultural hatred for Israel and the Jews going back as far as the Israeli war of Independence when every single Arab State declared war on the new country. When the Palestinians were ruled by the Jordan and Egypt they hardly made a fuss about it. The Palestinians have regularly refused offers at a new state the most prominent being the 2000 Camp David Accords where they had a chance at an independent state with most of the land in the West Bank to boot. If the Israeli's were to allow the Palestinians their own state odds are the first thing that state would do is attack Israel and use it's status as an independent country to attack and undermine Israel on the international stage.
There needs to be a cultural sea change among the Palestinians if they are to convince the Israeli's to let them establish an independent state. Right now the Palestinians are taking the approach of war and hate and it justifies the occupation. If the Palestinians were to adopt the strategies of Ghandi, Martin Luther King, or Nelson Mandela offering peace and love towards the Israeli's then the Israeli's would lose their justification for the occupation and international support they'd have to give the Palestinians an independent state. Until the Palestinians can do that the occupation will continue and I don't see the Palestinians changing anytime soon. I don't think I've seen a people with a more undeserved sense of pride and entitlement than I have the Arabs.
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Not quite.
You're right in that Area A - which mostly consists of Palestine's major cities - is ruled in its entirety by the PNA; the only time Israel enters is to conduct military operations in cooperation with the PDF. This region is effectively sovereign, though Israel could theoretically ignore the OA and annex it anyway - as Netanyahu is partially advocating at the moment.
However, this is only a portion of the West Bank. Areas B and C are both under complete Israeli sovereignty (B is meant to be under PNA civil administration, but this is superseded by Israel's military admin), and Palestinians living in those zones - at least a million people - are under Israeli military law. Israelis there, on the other hand, are under civilian administration; this is where the comparisons to Apartheid come from.
Of course they were going to vote for Hamas! A decade isn't going to undo 52 years of Israeli oppression. Over history, this sort of discriminatory oppression has always led to radicalisation. Just because they pulled out of Gaza doesn't mean Hamas' ammunition (Palestinian nationalism) was extinguished; the rest of Palestine (minus Area A) was, and is, still under occupation.
The CDA (2000) was more complex than Palestine not wanting to compromise for the sake of nationalism. Palestinian officials saw the Green Line as already being a compromise, with 78% of "Historical Palestine" (whatever you want to call it) going to Israel. Thus, they reluctantly offered a slight compromise at the CDA - Palestine retaking about 73% of the WB and all of Gaza, which would gradually expand to 92% of the WB (plus a 1% land exchange), and Israel maintaining road connections. This compromise of a compromise was rejected by Israel. Of course, there were areas where Palestine was responsible for the failure - such as East Jerusalem, which Arafat was under-prepared for.
I don't necessarily want a 2-state solution. Israel is perfectly capable of creating an autonomous civilian government in Area C to end the Apartheid-chic military law system in place for Palestinians whilst keeping Israeli sovereignty, and at that point I might start supporting Israel, or even an Israeli-led 1-state solution.
In this situation, Israel has the upper hand; they are significantly more powerful, have Palestine surrounded on all sides, and are difficult to criticise due to certain fallacies. If change comes, it will have to be from Israel; saying otherwise is like asking a man on the ground in a headlock to solve the situation.
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can you please break your hands and not make anything ever again
thanks
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i said "please" and "thanks" , tankie. maybe your mother didnt teach you proper courtesy.
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That is easily outweighed by the rudeness of you telling someone to break their hands and never draw again.
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that's a very good point. i think i would prefer them to break their hands and then continue to draw, albeit poorly and in excruciating pain. thank you for the correction.
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The artist is hating on China and the Northern Half of Korea for issues completely different than race.
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The guy disses the US a lot. Try again.
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Well of course he's supporting the Democratic Party. All the other minor parties suck ass in America.
And did you just say you support dead cops? tsk tsk.
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See, the thing is, people usually criticize rednblack salamander for being too communist. You are doing the opposite.
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No, but I certainly appreciate your courtesy. Most people wouldn't say please and thanks.
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fuck. worth asking tho
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>violent
Yeah after all everyone remembers how the North Koreans instigated new wars... or sent their troops to Vietnam to torture the opposing forces... no? Cause that wasn't the DPRK that did that.
>No respect for other people's boundaries
Right remember all those times North Korea violated the Chinese and South Korean Border by sending invading armies after the Armistice was signed... no? Oh right, cause that never happened.
>expensive as hell
China spent little on supporting the DPRK as did the USSR. Moreover China hasn't been closely helping the DPRK since the 80s.
Your leftist Stonetoss m8.
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So what you're saying is that Israel's even worse than North Korea?
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Even if you were to believe half the illogical tripe about the DPRK, yes. I'm by far not a massive supporter of the DPRK, there are plenty of objective reasons to criticize them, but none of what RednBlackStonetoss posts about the DPRK or tankies in general even remotely hints at that. Instead we get the most generic liberal memes about /leftypol/ tankies made by people who've never even been to /leftypol/.
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Remember all those wars the DPRK started like... Like... eh...
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Watch out, you'll be labeled as anti-Semetic by those who wink and nod at crowds that shriek "Jews will not replace us!"
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