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Published: 2019-11-28 13:10:48 +0000 UTC; Views: 1391; Favourites: 6; Downloads: 0
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President Evo Morales lays out the truth.Related content
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If only he hadn't stacked the supreme court with judges loyal to him, extended the term limits and then continued to run past what was legally allowed.
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Again, the president of Bolivia doesn't chose who sit on the supreme court, the congress does, are you wilfully ignorant or just plane stupid?
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Yeah, because a ruler would never cross boundaries and affect other processes of the state, right?
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I'm no fan of Socialist, or Evo Morales, but I'll admit he overall did more good for Bolivia than bad and had he simply let himself be termed out and spent more time ensuring his political movement would continue instead of his political career he'd probably be remembered as one of Bolivia's greatest leaders.
The irony is had he taken that route odds are his chosen successor would have been elected President, his party still in power and he'd still be very influential in Bolivian politics. Evo Morales was still popular, the Bolivian people were just worried he'd make himself dictator like had happened with Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela. Now he's been exiled from the country, his party and movement forced out of the political process and political forces opposed to him are now in power. His selfishness has done far more to undermine Bolivian Socialism than advance it.
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Agreed. Had he just stepped down, there really wouldn't be much of a problem. As is, he made everything worse and will have stained his legacy with corruption and quite possibly undone all he worked for.
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I wasn't aware Bolivia has Death Camps
is Morales' opponents harvesting people's organs?
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Bolivia is not the US. Morales couldn't have stacked the supreme court if he wanted, it's members are elected by the Bolivian congress.
He was legally allowed to run and the Bolivian people voted for him. Nothing wrong about that you braindead chud.
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He exceeded the number of term limits allowed. Christ, his opposition being assholes doesn't stop him from doing wrong.
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it was ruled that he was allowed to run and people voted for him, He worked within the rules, Now shut the fuck up you fascist apologist.
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Ruled so by a court he'd stacked after changing a functional constitution. It was corruption on the highest level. He didn't "work within the rules", he corrupted and warped them, and deserved to be deposed.
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I'll say it again, the President of Bolivia doesn't chose who sits on the court, they are chosen by congress.
There was nothing deserved about it, He was freely and fairly elected and now people are being murdered in cold blood by a christian fascist junta. So again fuck you.
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You realize that Evo Morales's attempt to cling on to the Presidency has done far more to undermine Socialism in Bolivia than anything else. Evo Morales was still quite popular the problem is the Bolivian people didn't want him as President for life out of fear he'd become a dictator. It's why they voted against ending term limits which Evo Morales had the courts he packed declare a human rights violation against the will of the people. Now watch a right leaning President use this same ruling to try and stay in power a lot longer to undermine Bolivia's Socialists.
Had Evo Morales focused on grooming his heir and ensuring his political movement would continue instead of his political career odds are the next President of Bolivia would have been a Socialist, his party would still be in power and he'd still remain an influential figure in Bolivian politics. Now instead he's been exiled, his successor is of an opposing political party, his movement has been pushed aside if not totally ousted from the government. Odds are many of his policies will be reversed. Face it, Evo Morales's is a just another self serving politician who cares more for his own political career than the socialist movement otherwise he would have accepted the term limits, ensured his parties continued success and avoided this political crisis.
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Pah, the current junta is murdering people in the street and arresting innocent Masista and you have nerve to say Morales wanted to be a dictator.
If you were any more full of shit you'd be a septic tank.
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When did I ever say I supported the existing government? I don't know much about the existing government to make any judgement calls. I'm just saying that Bolivia's Socialist movement would be in far better shape had Evo Morales cared more about the movement then his own political career. A successful movement should be something that should be able to transcend one person.
Also when did I say Evo Morales was a dictator? I said his people feared he'd become one and honestly I'd be concerned to if the leader of my country lost a Democratic referendum to end term limits and then directly went against the will of the people to have the courts strike down the very term limits his people voted to keep in place. It has been these actions that justified the coup otherwise the coup would have failed and more likely never have happened in the first place.
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You are making excuses for the junta and spewing it's lies. So you are supporting it.
The Bolivian people voted for him and are now fighting in the streets against fascist thugs for his return against an actual dictator.
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I've stated the facts of what happened before the coup and why Evo Morales was even susceptible to one in the first and it was his own actions. Wether the new government is just, or not; or if there was electoral fraud, or not isn't pertinent to the point I'm making. His prior actions made the political crisis that ousted him possible. Any close election was going to cause political turmoil especially any with a whiff of fraud.
Had he taken a different course of accepting the term limits and grooming a political heir who could continue his movement, odds are his successor would have been a Socialist, his party still in power and Evo Morales would remain an influential figure.
You can keep deflecting and say I'm defending an evil junta, but it doesn't change the fact that Evo Morales brought this on himself.
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No you started with a white lie. It was ruled by by Bolivia's main court (Which is was not picked by Morales) that Evo could run again for office. And there was no "fraud" we have two independent reports that show this:
www-personal.umich.edu/~wmeban…
cepr.net/images/stories/report…
The fact you can't work out if the current Junta (it is not a government) is "just or not" after it has murdered dozens of people in cold blood, arrested hundreds of innocent people and disappeared thousands in less than a month shows that you are stupid or monstrously cruel.
So yeah once again you are full of shit.
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I'm sure Evo Morales had absolutely no input on how the Congress dominated by his own party picked judges. Evo Morales might not have chose them directly, but he and his party made sure to stack it with supporters.
As to whether there was fraud, or not it doesn't matter to the point I'm making. There was a perception of fraud by the people and it helped trigger the political crisis that Morales laid the groundwork for. As I've said before had Morales accepted the term limits and chosen and groomed a successor to lead MAS his party would more likely still be in control and his chosen successor would likely be President. Instead he gambled for his own selfish desire to remain President and now he's in exile and MAS is being excised from the political process.
First off a handful of people dying in street protest isn't indicative of a junta. Far more people have died in street protest in Venezuela and I don't exactly see you calling that regime evil. This would be the first junta where the first thing the government does is sack the heads of the military. I wouldn't even say there was a coup. The military didn't exactly use force to oust Morales. The head of the military who was a known supporter of Evo Morales simply suggested he resign. Now I don't think it was right for the head of the military to do that and he might have been planning a proper coup, but the military didn't go storming the capital and seizing control. Several members of MAS were actually in line to succeed him Evo Morales, but they resigned as well leaving a member of the opposition Jeanine Anez in charge. As it stands the government is entirely civilian.
Since I've read more about the current government since this conversation started frankly I'm not impressed with it. The primary goal of the government should be to start new elections and it seems like Jeanine Anez is more focused on governing the country as it's President and driving policy as she sees fit when her job is simply to be a caretaker government. She has also basically cut MAS out of the political process which is simply going to deepen the political crisis. While I'm no fan of MAS they shouldn't be left out of the political process entirely. The only person who shouldn't be allowed to participate is Evo Morales since his actions and desire to be President indefinitely opened the door for this crisis.
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You can pretend like he didn't influence that process, sure.
1) The security of the election could not be assured. There were credible accusations of electoral fraud.
2) He abused the legal system to get re-elected. Fuck him.
I'm not for the fascists, but I sure as fuck am not for communist authoritarians.
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Here you go, independent reports that show the that Morales election was free and fair.
www-personal.umich.edu/~wmeban…
cepr.net/images/stories/report…
The only people abusing the legal system is your beloved junta.
Sure your not for the fascist you just bow down and believe every lie they pump out while decrying an elected social democrat as an "communist authoritarian"
Fuck you you braindead chud.
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"Social democrat"
>literally head of the "movement for socialism" party.
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Yeah and it's policies were social democratic. Morales reformed Bolivian society while remaining in a capitalist frame work and for imperialism that was too much.
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