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Nancy Spungen02.27.1958 - 10.12.1978
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Yea I like her too.. she had it pretty rough.
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Yeah, not to mention people blame her for EVERYTHING that happened. She's a contributing factor, maybe but everyone has choices and its their own faults for what happened to them. She's very interesting though, she reminds me of a few people I know
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I totally agree...
well except for the "your friends" thing,
cause that, I've got no clue.
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maaan I've wanted to read the book that her mother wrote since I was like 12 or 13, and of course in my freaking country there's no way to get it... I'd love to understand why she was such a misfit
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really??
banned??
really???
I cannot fathom the idea of banning books...
Give me your address and I'll mail it to you.
(just a thought, if you want it...
I have two.)
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it's not banned, it's just impossible to find it anywhere
you really could?
check the costs of sending packages to Poland and I'll transfer you the money
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just let me know... you don't have to pay for it.
(I can't sleep...)
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I don't care about that bitch though, she can rot in hell for all I care and so can her mother, and Sid's mother, Michelle, Steve and The Sun newspaper.
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hahha.. well, we're all entitled, I suppose...
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so funny...from first glance...evil can look so good...now I know better...god-damn you Nancy Spungen...
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It wasn't all her fault man...
read her mom's book... it changed my opinion...
I mean.. she is/was screwed up... but there's a reason..
we're no angels...
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everyone thought she was so ugly. i thought she was attractive. this is really good.
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Thanks a lot...
they only hated her cause they liked him better..
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yesss.. thanks... finally someone to admit that they liked (loved) Nancy....
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you rule!
too bad i wasn't born with that much talent, though.
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hey... I wasn't born with any talent either...
I stole it from my neighbours...
Keep with it... experiment, try new things...
thanks,, this pic is one of my personal favs!!
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no? my neighbours is about three years old and such so, im never gonna get one! ;/
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good god i love this.... id love to have it poster sized on my wall... maybe a blood red spatter for contrast!
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If I had any faith in my digital art abilities.. I'd splatter it and send it to you!
Maybe I'll make friends with a digital painter and get it done..
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hahaha i love your sig
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thank you.. delayed.. but thanks!!!
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thanks... and I know...
have you read the book?
some sad and fucked up shit... I dunno, little light on the other side of things..
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Nah, but read about it a fair bit.
lawl, DMDWH 5 is done XD
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I think it's fair to say I really really like this drawing, you've managed to make her look pretty, and that soft shadingstyle you've got going on looks really nice not to mention the amount of details (especially the lips and hair) , really well done!
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thanks... were those lips ever a bitch to draw...
it's not exact to the pic... but.. I made it work for my eyes...
there's another one of her in my gallery... the before..
this one... it after I read the book... new light on the subject of Nancy. I looked at the old one and thought that she deserved a better pic.
But I like the before and after (kinds/sorts)
like how media corrupts/forms thought...
phew...
thanks if I didn't say that already.
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I like it more when artist put a little twist in their work, and not identically copying the reference photo, so it's perfect you made it work for your eyes. But I'll check out the other Nancy in your gallery, if my connection holds, you've really got me interested now, especially since I've only got a Johnny's point of view on her, and well a few remarks from Steve and Paul, I might just even try to get a copy of that book, and I'm actually even thinking about buying Glens book, I was a bit prejusticed about it, though I like him, but people have been telling me it's really good. Oh, sorry, I'm ranting on about something completely different.
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really? really really.. get the book..
I only had the "Johnny view/media" as well....
So, shockingly surprised, the book turned to be (Yoda, not intended..)
You know.. whether you like her or you hate her.... the book is still a good read...
Bonus... being written by her mom and all... she doesn't really sugar coat anything.. it's how they felt and shit.. it's really good..
they need a movie now!!!
omg.. I really love the book... I really want people who think bad of her to love to book too...
shit.. now I wanna but you a copy.
(Amazon.com.. fairly cheap)
enjoy. if you read it...
.... Glen's book? Didn't even know... so what that about... his bio? or life as a Pistol Bio???
Hmmmm now I'm interested...
and thanks for the comments.
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I should really pay amazon.com a visit too, because dollar rate is in such a lowpoint right now I'd save quite a lot, I'm definitely get the nancy one, I'm still hesitating about Glens' book, it's called 'I was a teenage sex pistol' so it seems to be kind of pistols bio then I guess, he updated it last year with chapters about the reunions, which are excellent or so I hear. I think while I'm at it I might just get the book which includes stories about Johnny, do you have any other suggestions about which books about pistols to get?
No worries about the comments, you're worth every one of them and more!
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Oh.. of course the granddaddy of them all ROTTEN : No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs..
Shit.. He's really a good writer... really. Like all of the history the story aside and all of that ... his words.. the way and how he uses them... I think it's an artform.
I was impressed... I'm no literary genius (not yet) But it reads well... really well...
There's a Sid one I heard about... I dunno what it's called... but I know it's not the yellow cover one...
Do youhave any idea what I'm talking about.
Have you heard the Rotten Day recordings??
If you're a fan.. and I figure you are.. and you haven't heard em...
do get them.. or tell me and I'll email it to you or some shit..
it's fucking funny as all hell..
I guarantee you'll piss yourself atleast once...
either that... or my sense of humor is in a galaxy of its own...
laterdays
oh hell... I'm not worth the time it took to write it... but i do like reading them...
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I probably should have mentioned that I have John's book, when it arrived i literally ran to the post office to get it, I obsessively admire him (honestly, the man can do no wrong in my eyes) but even I was surprised by how great his writing skills actually are, the book made me laugh and cry (and it's so not like me to get very emotional about anything), but there's no point in me ranting about that, you summarised it quite perfectly. I'm anticipating the book about PIL, he has mentioned writing it quite a few times. About the Rotten Day recordings, I've heard the ones which are on John's official site, it's a shame he doesn't have his own show on TV or radio anymore, I understand why they're kind of banning him, but it's just wrong. I admire his sense of humour, it's always right on the money.
I've heard of quite a few books about Sid, the one that comes to mind right now is Alan Parker's , I think it was called something like 'Too fast to live', but I don't know if it's any good, I probably remember it because I've read about it on the Sex Pistols boards, which Mr. Parker himself is a member of. It doesn't have a yellow cover though,so it's not the one you're thinking of, but I know that there's somekind of book from Noel Monk about the american tour which includes a lot of little interesting stories about Sid. There are so many different books about the Pistols it's difficult to sort out the good one's, they're all very subjective though, that's why I like Johnny's method of putting in a lot of comments from other people. Okay, I'm reall starting to rant here, better I'd better wrap this up. If you weren't worth the time, i wouldn't bother, right? It's good to chat with another SP's fan (if I may call you that)
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hahaaa... how could I be so foolish as to think that you hadn't read Rotten???
As for PiL.. I like a lot of the songs.. RELIGION!!!!! But don't really know much about the history of the band, aside from what was told in the book..
Unlike you though, I can't understand why interesting people with interesting things to say are slienced by all of the mass produced shit on the airways... Rotten Day was the shit.. funny funny funny, I laughed, I cried, because I too have a James Dean limited edition plate!!
(no.. it's actually a pewter pendant, but I guess the point is that I have it... )
I've always had a thing about people who write books about themselves.. on the one hand.. they know the whole truth and nothing but, but they also know what wants and needs to be said.. But authors aren't all good, cause depending on whether they like the subject or not.. determines the feeling of the whole book... looks like a no win to me... I don't know why I said all of that... not sure what my real point was..
either way it's said.. and it's taking me less time typing this half-ass excuse than it would to hold down the delete key...
So.. fandemonium... did you see "Cop Killer"??
What I'm really trying to get a copy of is the Sid and Nancy Criterion... the fantasy movie aside.. I love Gary Oldman and can't find those S&N interviews anywhere online...
Hmmm all this Lydon talk makes me want to resurrect the picture I started so long ago....
his damn STARE is what's stopping any progression...
can't get that right.. might as well just title it, guy with spikey hair!!
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Those people with interesting things to say, they would probably make other people think for themselves too, and the big-bad-institutions-corporations-media-and-other-stuff simply can't allow that, twisting Hitler's words an bit: how fortunate that people do not think. But you knew all that anyway, but it does make me understand it, which doesn't mean I approve, I'm wandering from the subject a bit, but it scares me that even though I know I'm being well..brainwashed, i can't break out of it. That really doesn't make any sense. XD
I know so little about PIL too, seems like it's not called limited for nothing, I've read a few interviews and things, I'm still hoping that John is coming out with his book about PIL soon, I bet someone will ask him about it on thursday.
And I got your point about the authors and it's a good one, so I'm glad you chose the excuse instead of the
delete key.
I have not seen Cop Killer, not that easy getting my hands on a copy of it around where I live, but I've seen clips on youtube, so I have a vague overview of the movie. It has 'made in Italy' written all over it, that's a mild generalization, isn't it? But the few italian films I've seen, they've got this weird atmosphere but it seems kind of fake, that's the sort of the vibe I got from watching the clips, but I'm hoping that if i finally do get to see the movie, it'll prove me wrong, because I kind of liked the concept. But on silimar subject, I haven't seen Sid and Nancy from the beginning to the end either, I tried, I really tried to watch it, being a Johnny's girl trough and trough, I just couldn't handle how he was portraied in it . But since I hang around different sites connected to SP's I'll keep my eyes open about those interviews.
And I want to see that drawing you're doing, I bet that stare must be a pain in the *ss, but I also bet that you're being too critical about it! From now on I'll be keeping an eye on your work!
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you are so interesting to talk to ...
I never met a JOHNNY GIRL before.. plenty of SID GIRLS...
lemme tell you.. the conversation sways sooooooo differently.
can I really rip off ur picture??
Normally I wouldn't ask... but I do really respect the art
(and artist)
credit where it's due.
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Oh I didn't notice it's been so long since I've been active, but it's summer so I hope it's understandable why I'm so late with replying, I wanted to say that I'm actually anticipating to see your version of that drawing, I don't like calling it riping off because there really isn't anything original in the world anymore. So i really do hope you'll draw it.
You're probably tired of me going on about Johnny,but I wanted to mention that I haven't actually had the chance to meet many Sid girls, I hang around on sites where I get to talk to loads of Johnny admirers, but I'm genuinely interested in talking to a Sid fan, I'd really like to know why they like him.
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Oh there are no rules and regulations with me... besides... your "not typical" talk.. has bought you plenty of get out of jail free cards....
seriously tho.. that pick is hanging up on my wall.. taunting me.... I haven't picked of a pencil in ages... into Labelology these days... lol.. maybe you'll see a few... aww.. nothing is original... now I feel bad..
I'd never get annoyed or tired of things I find interesting.. so talk away... ro we'll have to stumble on a new topic of interest. Sid girls are cool... well they are all the same.. wannabes and shit... soo angst... wahhh wahh...
But me personaly, I don't have a prob with Sid.. he's aces in my book, seemed like a funny guy... (and I have a thing for blood too) But Johnny was the brains.. and you can't beat brains.
I'd actually like to hear (see) you in a Sid forum asking that question.. worded that way.... bet you'll get a lot of fuck this and fuck you too!
hahah.. I"m gonna do it.
Round 2.
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Your stuff always puts me in the mood for drawing! I'm always amazed with the anatomy you draw and the shading. You do good work! n_n
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Really?
That's so nice.. considering, I think my shading is for shit...
that one might be good cause of a photo ref. but if you look at my original girlies.. lol most of them got the same shading in the same places..
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oh, thanks...
shit man... those lips took me forever.. erase, redraw, erase, smudge, erase, redraw...
it looks nothing like the pic.. but with my heavy hand.. less is more...
it worked.
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pish you're too nice to her... that beeyotch. she annoys me but i do love that Sid and Nancy movie... i do love her makeup though. her lips are nice and full! yay!...i dont know what else to say so...mahwhahaha
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yea wellll...
You know.. I just finished reading her book, well her mommy's book and I felt really, really bad for her; family too... and I was looking at my first picture of her.. (which sucked by the way) and thought that she deserved a better picture... also, I thought that I could do a better one...
I quite like the contrast of the two... before the book and after...
preception is a wicked thing...
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trueee...but she had a lot of problems...but i mean you cant just side one way just take the medium too. But im a sex pistols fan so of course im gonna blame her for everything
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I'm a pistols fan too... and I'm not siding... I'm gathering the facts
You should read that book... really.. you should OK!!
I used to hate her too.. blamed her for everything...
I'm not exactly taking blame away, passing it.. or changing my mind...
I just see her POV a little clearer now...
ok that is all.
thank you and goodnight!
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