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Another challenge by This time he wanted an artillery gauss gun [link]So here it is, the Longbow Gauss Artillery, a mobile platform capable of throwing artillery shells at targets up to 20km of distance (or more).
It works with electromagnetic modules over the barrel, pulling and pushing the ammo as it passes over them, accelerating it at several miles per second until it goes of the barrel, without smoke, or explosion noise. The gun can be only detected when the shells go over the sound speed, leaving a trace and the characteristic sound of supersonic flight.
The model at right is a fix towable artillery gun, to be deployed in artillery fields away from the battlefield. The one in the left is mounted in a tower, to be added to a tank hull or ship.
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I've been meaning to ask something of someone who knows more about Gauss weaponry than I do. I have plans to design a weapon, a sniper weapon, that works by accelerating a tiny, BB-sized projectile electromagnetically until it reaches speeds so fast that it basically turns the air around it into a trail of plasma, and becomes superheated itself. It also moves so fast that, despite being tiny, it can penetrate almost any personal armor and produce considerable knockback. Basically it moves so fast and the projectile is so small that it blurs the line between hypervelocity projectile and particle beam. The projectile in the air is supposed to resemble a shot from the beam rifle from Halo , or this demonstration of hyper velocities (not the blue "beam.")
My question is, if you make the projectile small enough, will you be able to avert the loud bang caused by projectiles breaking the sound barrier? That is the reason for the BB-sized projectile. Also, would you be able to cause enough damage to the target with a tiny projectile, as long as you fire it at a high enough speed? Finally, I'd imagine the power requirements for such a weapon would be immense, and the sniper might need to wear a backpack power unit. I had someone else tell me it's a terrible idea for a sniper to wear something as heavy as a power supply backpack, but I really don't see any other way of powering such a power-intensive sniper weapon, unless there was some kind of miracle to miniaturize a device that produces large amounts of power. Even so, it'd be a miracle even to shrink said device down to the size of a backpack, which is why I suggested the backpack power unit in the first place.
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I am pretty adept at Gauss man. ANd no. First a bb sized 4.5mm or 5mm would be vaproized by teh friction and wouldnt work, ANything small enough to Not make a sonic boom wouldnt exiist. The speeds for Air plasma are quite slow as its not very hot. Depends a .22 wide 1 ft long stake would require a lot of power but Not as much as a Rail rifle of the same size. Some kind of protable Fusion or possibly a Deisal genrator would be neded to fill teh capictor banks.
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I see. It's good to know that sort of thing so I can make my weaponry more plausible. I just wanted to come up with a sniper weapon that would be considerably more silent (EG, without the loud "bang" of a conventional sniper rifle or how you say a Gauss/rail weapon would sound anyways,) yet deliver stopping power greater than or equal to a conventional sniper rifle. I guess maybe a laser or some other directed energy weapon would be best, but I'm not sure. I pretty much wanted to recreate the Beam Rifle from Halo but make it my own unique thing.
That said I still envision Gauss weapons being used on vehicles or gun turrets on battleships, as anti-ship weapons. Gauss weaponry in my fictional universe works slightly different from real-life coilguns and Gauss weapons from other sci-fi universes. Namely, a "sabot" of plasma is created around the projectile to accelerate it and prevent it from touching the walls of the gunbarrel. The use of a magnetically-accelerated plasma "propellant" is what justifies the appearance of a Gauss cannon's shot looking like a long, blue-white stream of plasma. Although I heard somewhere else that the plasma you see Gauss and rail weapons emitting is actually either part of the projectile vaporizing, or part of the barrel itself eroding and turning into plasma.
Oh, and thanks for the watch by the way. By an official beta tester too! It's an honor!
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Welcome, ANd i get what your saying, THe Gauss and Rail guns themselves are Silent except for a Twang or Zap sound from the current running along them. Now to silence that effect you would probably need High heat Super conductors. Now a .22 Round from a Gaussian or Rail rifle at o... maxed out at Mach 25-30 would kill a man from a near miss from the shockwave, Aka the Sonic boom. Now a Body shot would blow a man apart, hit a metal or cement of such and it would dump most if not All its kinetic energy, A .22 inch round moving at Mach 25 has... (I have no idea the math) But it would have hundreds of thousands of pounds of impact force.
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Hmm a .22 round might not produce all that loud a sonic boom, considering a .22 regular rifle isn't all that loud at all, and the shot from a normal gun break the sound barrier as well. Or would it be louder for speeding upwards of Mach 25? Still that might make an interesting firing sound effect - a hypersonic bang combined with an electrical zap sound effect.
Do you know much about plasma weapons as well or just electromagnetic accelerator weapons such as Gauss and railguns?
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No No No. My friend you dont get it. Normal guns dont fire Hypersonic bullets, Even the Mighty fifty cal cant break teh sound barrier. The Bang is from the powder burning at Massive speed.
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I Know Plasma is Very hard to control which is why they use Lser Tunnels insted of trying to fireit off. It needs to be contained which is hard even with a tunnel.
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But I was pretty sure bullets from regular guns DO break the sound barrier, even if they don't fly at hypersonic speeds. Hypersonic speeds are speeds of Mach 5 and higher (5 times the speed of sound and higher) though you probably already knew that. I heard also that the reason suppressors are so ineffective is because they only silence the sound of expanding gases, as it is impossible to silence the sonic boom of a bullet breaking the sound barrier. Unless of course you use subsonic ammo. But you didn't answer my question, would a projectile traveling at hypersonic speeds make a louder sonic boom than a projectile traveling at just regular supersonic speeds?
Yeah I do know about the laser-induced plasma tunnel effect.
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Most dont, Though i can think of a few. Most notably is teh .408 Lupa. and a 20mm round. Though most guns fire subsonic unless your using +P rounds or Super. Rifles usualy have very short Booms. The Trademark Crack of a rifle is the sonic boom. Its happens as soon as it fires. But not from the bullet. Form teh Expanding gasses. The Gasses are what is slowed by silencers, not the bullet...well Yes teh Bullet by cause and effect. The Gasses expand at a extremely fast rait. Causing teh ether Bang of pistols and shotguns or teh Crack of rifles. The Silencers act as wafers to slow the gasses down, quieting, or silencing them.
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Oh so it's the GASES traveling at supersonic speeds that create the boom? I never knew that! So that means that an electromagnetic weapon like a Gauss gun or railgun would NOT make a boom then? Interesting, but I could've sworn I heard a railgun make a huge bang sound when I saw a video of an experimental gun being tested.
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No. Gasses in a Conventinal Gun make the Boom. Ina Gauss/Rail Gun. The Slug would be moving so fast it Dose make a boom. Yout tring to compare two toaly different weapon systems.
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SO need any more help
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not sure what you mean by that.
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About what? Hypersonic electromagnetic weapons?
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Weapons in general for the most part
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Can't really think of anything, sorry, but you've watched me now so we can keep in touch that way. More guns are coming soon, since I love drawing them.
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Aye Aye mate. and expect me to critize all yoru Mag weapons for the sake of my ego ok?
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Not QUITE sure what you mean by that, or whether or not I like the sound of that 
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Heheheheheh, wow! I just know about Gauss guns what I red in Wikipedia
I really don't know if there is any way to avoid the noise of breaking the sound barrier... maybe it it break the sound barrier inside the weapon's barrel, it can absorb the vibration and silence it somehow...
And, well, it would probably need to reach speeds near to light-speed to turn a solid projectile into plasma and make it reach the destination. I guess most of the air inertia would reach the target instead of the original BB bullet, but I'm really bad at theoretic physics 
Better ask Gordon Freeman from Half Life
Well, for the energy source, I guess you will need to use a nuclear power-plant to power this monster. It remembered me the Japanese series Neon Genesis Evangelion, where they had to divert all Japan energy to a rail gun like that...
Maybe some kind of weird energy source, like anti-matter, can be used in a miniaturized power pack small enough to be carried by a human. But I never really researched it enough... You can also invent some miraculous power source, like the RPG Cthulhutech made with "Non-Euclidian energy sources", which are nothing more than geometric draws that cross dimensions and generate huge amount of energy that way
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I see, and I'm not sure how to make the projectile break the sound barrier inside the gun, if that's even possible. Oh, and I actually meant "note the blue beam" not "not the blue beam" in my previous post, that was a typo.
Hmm, I'm not sure about the lightspeed thing, since I know experimental planes going at hypersonic speeds (faster than Mach 5) experience ionization or plasma-fied air on the outside of the hull due to the extreme friction (I think.)
Yeah, my roommate said the same thing about a micro-nuclear device to power the weapon...actually we were talking about a similar but different weapon, a plasma gun I was designing too. Anti-matter? Now that's getting strange. Lol Cthulhu.
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Well, the LHC (Large Hardron Collider) uses electromagnetism to accelerate particles near lightspeed. I guess if the mechanism can become smaller, it could result in a kickass gun
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Yes it totally could, and I heard somewhere online that there IS a kind of particle beam that can be used in an atmosphere, and is possible to be used as a weapon. I find that extremely fascinating. Like maybe it uses particles with a neutral charge to prevent the air atoms from being excited into plasma and blocking the beam. I've always wondered what kind of armor-piercing effects such a beam would have.
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Hummmm... I also wonder if a weapon like this would be any useful. It would probably cauterize the wound and make a very tiny enter and exit hole, it would be difficult to kill someone, even if you shot the brain or heart...
Firearms are good at killing because they make bigger exit holes than entry ones, and take away mass and blood of the target, causing severe hemorragies and damage to organs. I don't know if a particle beam would be able to do the same, except if the beam radius is big enough to cook the organs of the victim and reduce organs to ashes
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I did not know that. It helps to know someone who knows more about how guns kill the target than I do. So yeah, perhaps particle beams aren't the best choice for lethality. Now lasers on the other hand, apparently lasers can be potentially VERY damaging, being able to cut through tissue and organs, heat body fluids to their boiling points and on top of it all, I read that a real laser wouldn't even cauterize the wound it caused! So it does all that gnarly stuff AND kills its target rather messily. Or so I've heard...
What about this? I have an idea for a weapon in my fictional universe that fires a projectile heated to over 12,126 degrees centigrade, with considerably lower muzzle velocity than a firearm but the majority of the damage caused is due to the intense heat of the projectile. In my fictional universe, the projectile can burn or melt through most armor materials and cause severe second, third and sometimes fourth-degree burns to the target. In addition, the projectile is not entirely "solid," it is instead composed of coherent "particles" of a superheated metal compound which disperse once they've penetrated the target, spreading out and continuing to rapidly heat the target's insides before cooling.
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Wow! Liquid molten metal shooters? Sounds like you can take a terminator with this thing
The worse would be to extract the "bullet" from the wound. It would probably disperse all around the armor, clothes, inside the skin, bones... and when it solidify, it would be like a spear traversing the poor guy's body... also could really damage movement, even if it hit a leg or arm, like those roman pilum lances, that were made for the pointy end to break inside the body and make it hard to pull out
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O la la la. *Has weapon gasm* You have done it again ma man. Excelante
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Thanks
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Guass artillery??? That will go miles beyond current artillery, so good idea!
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Miles man? Hundreds om Miles
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Well... anything over, say, 20 miles becomes hard to direct
without some kind of guidance anyway. So many factors
come into play at that point. So even if it were capable of
shooting a projectile from Los Angeles to New York, hitting a
"specific" target becomes an entirely diff subject. It's one thing
to have the capability to even shoot that far, and quite another to
get the projectile on target. Artillery is generally considered
an "indirect" munition (not guided). idk man. I'm not DARPA, so who
really knows
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Well if its firing at the same exact speed, and your using GPS Possibly a Laser to find the target, and a strke computer to doo all the math, A Hit from that far should be possible, and the kenetic energy would equal the same size explosive charge alone
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Thanks
In fact, Wikipedia say DARPA is tinkering with Gauss Artillery right now... probably we will see something like that in the near future
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