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mayshing In reply to mayshing [2005-07-31 20:18:37 +0000 UTC]

I am glad you like my words, I find sometimes critiques that are too nice don't tell me anything straight about what I need to work on, I might end up overlooking my weakness, so I adjust my own crit to be straight forward.
Critiquing is toward the skill and artwork, most people tend not to care about the artist's feelings when they do it... so that's harsh, i do understand your reason.

(Having seen it myself... @_@b Argh, i started babbling)

And I don't believe in the "Try to separate your work from yourself" load of talks, it's NOT possible, because if the artists separate their feelings from their work, that means they have to stop caring, that's means its not good art. But if they care, that means they will be sensitive to it. It is better if they learn to recover and learn to select points from harsh words to help themselves instead of trying to be logical about it.

Alright, if you have other pieces you want my words on, you can send the links to me specifically. I will take a look at them.

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Nanuka In reply to mayshing [2005-07-30 22:51:45 +0000 UTC]

I apologize for the late reply, I've been overrun lately. x.x

Now that you point it out in a particular work, your phrase makes more sense. I do admit to being afraid of backgrounds. At first I avoided them entirely, yet lately I've tried some (as seen) with rather simple designs - hoping not to detract from the character. I also have difficulties having the character and the background really interacting. I usually do the character in the foreground and a box-border BG to add to it. Just that the BG has no relation to the actual char sometimes. I've never considered the BG to have personality either, it's a new concept that I'm willing to try definetly.

^____^ I really appreciate the compliment and I'm glad I'm inspirational too. It makes me feel better.

Sometime later, I'd love to have your opinion on a couple of others. Yes, I usually put "Critique Discouraged" but it's because it's difficult to find such understanding and logical critique like yours. I tend to be torn down and eventually refuse any critique. Yours was respectful yet straightforward... I love it. <3 Thanks again. I'll take it all into consideration.

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Nanuka In reply to mayshing [2005-07-27 20:05:28 +0000 UTC]

I'm overall satisfied with the outcome, yes. But I have a feeling that the shading may need to have been worked on. I'd honestly like to touch up the original, but it's in my AP Portfolio...in another state. ;__; If you see something that stands out in your mind besides shading and maybe proportion - I'd love to hear it. ^^

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mayshing In reply to Nanuka [2005-07-29 14:02:49 +0000 UTC]

"But I have a feeling that the shading may need to have been worked on. I'd honestly like to touch up the original, but it's in my AP Portfolio...in another state. ;__; If you see something that stands out in your mind besides shading and maybe proportion - I'd love to hear it. ^^"

Really? Is that all you see for improvement so far? OK. If you would like my view, I will look at the picture carefully again and give you a review in another comment.

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Nanuka In reply to auralis-stock [2005-04-29 02:06:06 +0000 UTC]

Why thank you. I hope you don't mind if I anthro-tize some others. I have a few printed out.

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auralis-stock In reply to Nanuka [2005-04-29 17:59:45 +0000 UTC]

No, of course I don't mind! Go right ahead.

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Nanuka In reply to Horus-Goddess [2005-04-27 01:59:29 +0000 UTC]

what do you mean "drew the last straw"? I don't hate Masurao...the whole 'too much of a good thing' takes affect in my case. At first it was cool how you drew him alot and very good at it too, but I havn't really seen you draw any one of your other characters...and like it...since last year. I'm just really concerned. Especially since you dropped your whole SoulsDestined story for him. Please just ignore me. I've been really down lately and all of the things lately affects me twice as much and even more deeply, so please don't get mad. I simply wanted to state my opinion and I tried to be funny about my complaint, you took it seriously tho. My fault entirely. Sorry but I have to go now - it's 10-o-clock.

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Horus-Goddess In reply to Nanuka [2005-04-27 02:43:47 +0000 UTC]

hmm. well let me put it this way...

I guess Masurao is the one and only character of mine I adore. Reason I stopped drawing Teresa and Bevan all the time was because I kept getting complaints about it. Besides I'd even noticed how much I drew them. Ever since about 3 years ago they were all I drew aside from a few other things on occassion. I was obsessed with Kenny and I knew I needed to work on not being obsessed, even if I did/do love him as much as I do. It was time for me to move on. It doesn't mean I'll drop the characters forever. Heavens no. But I wont obsess over drawing them all of the time.

In a way I envy you, 'Nuka.. You have so many characters, so many designs, all of which are amazing. My characters are pretty blah in comparison, at least from my perspective. Ever since I met you I've envied you for that. I think I've told you this before. I dunno... I guess you could say I don't have many successful characters. Not nearly as many as you do. And by character success I mean characters you enjoy and like. I don't have many I enjoy and like. Masurao is the only one for the most part. Then comes Bevan. And then, not so much, Teresa.

I don't know how to really explain why I'm so... "obsessed" with Masurao. I know you may not see it, and other people might not either. And I'll probably sound crazy for saying this but... I truely think he's a connection I have.. I feel "connected" to the character so to speak. Almost like a weird spiritual connection. Like a part of me is him. I don't know how to say that without it making me look like a psycho or someone in need of desperate help....

-sigh-

I dunno. I'm done explaining my reasons. It wouldn't make sense to very many people. Probably no one to be exact. It might be considered an unhealthy obsession by some people. But if you or anyone else truely understood it you'd probably say different.


As for dropping SD... I'm still debating rewritting it once more. It still needs a lot of work.. which is why I haven't worked on the first chapter yet. Bevan and Teresa will still very much be part of SD, they have to be for what I have planned. Masurao will just be more of the main character than the two of them. In order for Cross to come into play, Bevan and Teresa have to be in the story somehow. I dunno. Souls Destined... is currently under revamp. I have the basics down just fine.... it's just stringing everything together that will be the hard part.


And well. I do realize you just tell me these things as a friend would out of concern. I'm just stubborn and most of the time unable to see things that need to be worked out. I'm sorry I got angry... what I meant by "last straw" was what you'd said in your comment just got me even though you may not have meant for it to. I just get a lot of crap from people even though you may not see it. And reading what you'd said just pushed me enough for the anger I'd built up to finally release. There's just so much crap I have to do. So much trouble. Depression, loneliness, you name it. Masurao is just like... the only thing I have to lean on sometimes. When I draw him it's like releasing tension. Even though he causes some for others at times. Like I said.. he's become more than just a character to me. Almost more like a fursona but not quite. Unhealthy addiction? Maybe. But not as unhealthy as other things like drugs, sex, alchohol, or other sinful stuff is. I'd rather have a Masurao addiction than an addiction to something that could ultimately threaten my life.

I guess... all I have to say in the end is to ask you to maybe try to understand. I know it's hard. And well.. I may sound really crazy and insane but I'm not. I guess for your sake I'll try to diversify my subject matter just to spice things up a bit. There have been times I've tried to draw other things... but they always seemed to come out badly... just the other day I tried drawing your character Luxor but he ended up lookin' funky and horribly disproportionate. I tried to draw Teresa the other day too. But everything I draw comes out looking so boring. For some reason when I draw Massy it always comes out looking exactly how I want it for the most part. meh... oh well.

I love yah though 'Nuka... I really do. I could only hope for the best for you. As much as I pray and as much as I wish for your situation to get better it doesn't ever seem to. I want everything in the world for you but I have no power to give it. I know how much it hurts that you're not as popular as you'd like to be. That your artwork doesn't hit the top faves often. I know how much it hurts you. And how frustrating it can be. I suppose all I could suggest is what I've been telling you. Popularity really should not matter. How many favourites you have shouldn't be what defines how good or bad your artwork is. It doesn't for me. I am happy when my art gets a lot of favourites and stuff.. I feel blessed because of it... but even the pieces I really love that didn't get as much praise as I gave it I still love it anyway. I do my work for the pleasure factor. Because I want to do it. But... I've rambled on about this before.. so I wont keep preaching to you like I tend to.

I guess like you suggest to me things about Masurao and stuff.. I suggest such things like the above. I do it out of my friendship to you, and my desire for you to do as well as you possibly can. Only thing is we both are extremely stubborn in some ways... our art being one of those ways. lol.

Well. This became more like a novel or something along those lines. I guess I'll end here. and resist repeating myself further.

Just.. I dunno. Keep in mind I appreciate everything you do for me. Even though I may get mad sometimes I still love you. Friendships do that... lol. I guess we should know, considering our past.

Take care okay? Feel better soon! I know life is hard... God I know it's hard.. but. we get through it. move on. Become stronger. Even all the compliments I could give you wouldn't make you feel better... all I can do is pray for you.

Marie

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