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I made an oopsie! On the flaxen gene: It is a recessive trait. So you need ff to have flaxen. fF will not be enough. :> thanks Here is a color chart complete with the genetics to go with it. :> Mostly I made it because it helps me practice different colors and shades. But it also helps me to get inspired to draw horses with different cominations of the these modifiers and such.
Maybe there's some info on here that some of you didn't know and...well...now ya do! Hope you like it. Next are charts of patterns and stuff.
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there is SO much genetically wrong with this! flaxen is NOT a mapped gene we do not know the cause for it (or sooty), bay is NOT a modifier Extension (E/e) and agouti (A/a) work TOGETHER to create the THREE base colors; red, black and bay. bay dun being the original 'wild type' that mutated over time. also At or brown was disproven shortly after this was posted I believe as the researcher was using mouse genetics as his basis but Agouti is fully mapped and all brown horses will test as bay (E-A-) also we now know that there is; D 'true' dun with the primitive markings and the peachy dilution, nd1 primitives with little to no dilution (not of a peachy hue) , and nd2 no primitives no dilution. (dominance is as follows D over nd1 and nd2, nd1 over nd2, nd2 fully recessive)
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you're welcome
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This is gonna be useful! Thanks for making these.
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Just one edit; Jet Black can only be represented by EE and fading black is Ee. The EE makes it be black base so it shines blue and Ee is brown base so it fades and shines brownish. *black horse enthusiast*
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lol thank you! that helps a lot!!!!!
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Actually, Ee is strictly bay. EE is black, faded or not.
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No, the A or a gene is agouti, which restricts the black to points of the body, AKA bay. So Ee or EE with Aa or AA would be some sort of bay while Ee aa would be a black horse that fades in the sun and with age and EE aa would be unfading black.
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this has been disproven an Eeaa horse is no more likely to fade than an EEaa horse is. there is a belief that it is somehow linked to nd1/nd2 (non-dun 1 and 2) now that Dun has been further mapped. as a lot of 'fading' blacks tested both EEaa and Eeaa have been tested nd1 which can give primitives and little to no extra dilution ^.^
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I have a question is there any horse color chart or something where we can repo the horse ( repo : change it around ) ? I was wondering I want to make one for my buddie she is leaving for a while 
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I'm so sorry it's been so long since I've gotten back. I would have said of course had I had internet!
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I know a very beautiful flaxen two-year old, she's absolutely gorgeous. She got her grandfather's coloring, I hope there are more babies like her coming into this world. Everyone could use a flaxen chestnut pony in their life.
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I've got one! 
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And 'steal' grey should be 'steel.' (I can't wait to see your other coming color charts as well!) Can you email me at bearcreekequine@hotmail.com ? I have a question for you...Thanks!
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Also, you might want to correct the spelling of champagne, lol!
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I am on a color group on Facebook. I can add you to the group if you like? I would just need your FB name. We found another little bob-boo. A is dominant over At and At is dominant over a...so, if a horse is AAt or AtA, it will be bay, not brown/sable/seal. (Not judging, just trying to help you be accurate...
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This is very helpful. Thank you!
Highly recommended
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you're welcome, and thank you!
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This is a very good chart. It's nice to see everything laid out neatly and simply 
I just wanted to point out, though, that Greying is very subjective. What you've put isn't wrong, but it's also not so clear cut. Horses of all base can become fleabitten or dappled and both bays and chestnuts can have a rose phase. I just depends on the horse - some will be ancient and still have dapples, others will be snowy white before they're seven.
I know this was meant to be a fairly simple chart though, so it's not a big deal, I just thought I'd mention it. Great work
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thank you! Yeah, it is quite simple. I see what you mean about my greys.
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You're welcome. I'm glad I made sense
And I'll go find your other charts now and drop a line
And yeah; grey can be hard to illustrate 
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oh man grey is the hardest! I have seen it do so many cool things, always evolving.
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you know it
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so true. Scary and intriguing at the same time. Hard to concentrate on until baby slows down from eating every three hours to something less time consuming.
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Ah...yeah, I can imagine that doesn't help XD.
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It's challenging to get any art done...that's for sure lol.
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How old is your little one? Sleeping through the night? Hopefully it won't be too long before you can have some free time
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He is 1 month exactly. I was born on samhain...or holloween. He eats every 3 hours at night, every 2 to 2 1/2 during the day. I love him, but sometimes I tell his father that if he wants to eat, he'll take the child long enough for me to cook lol.
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So you're in that stage
And definitely hand off to his father now and then
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I do. Especially to go to see the horses and work with them for an hour or two. Can't do that right now tho. The only vehicle with gas is the motorcycle, and the only one who can ride it is my husband. I will learn one of these days!
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I would love to get a motorbike! It's just unfortunate that my 4x4 is far more practical for getting to the yard, especially in winter
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It's a yamaha, R6. Pretty fun to go around on. I can always hear jason coming from three blocks away. Ducati's are nice. Smexy, to say the least. My mom would never let me learn to ride a motorcycle, since I was always in the ER just from riding horses as it was. 4x4s are fun too. My 4x4 eats a lot though lol.
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Lol, tell me about it! my car is a guzzler XD. And thankfully I haven't been rushed to the ER for a mega riding accident 
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I've been in the ER for lots of things. I've been kicked in the head, bucked off, dragged, fallen on, bitten. You name it. Yet I still get on. Go figure, eh? The R6 is your basic race bike. Fun, loud, and sexy.
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Wow, you've really had some scrapes!
And I'll have to look up that bike and find out more. I may end up with a list of three bikes instead of two...
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:> They remind me of dragonflies. (the bikes) touchwood? that's a new term for me. I was always a wild child. I like to ride bareback with a rope for reins. my horse was just a tad hot for that. and the of course other people's horses. Every scrap I got into was from trying to prove myself to someone. I'm a bit susceptable to being egged on.
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Oh, I use 'touchwood' to prevent jinxing myself. It's a weird thing that came about while I was at school XD.
And I was never that wild, lol. I've only ridden bareback a couple of times and I'm not exactly competitive or easily riled. I just cruise through life
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Ah yeah, I've calmed down since being stuck in a wheel chair for a while. Still...I am quite competitive. I've galloped bareback and bitless, and done a few things more risky than most. The most fun was when I was learning to joust. That was awesome! But not being able to walk humbles you a bit. Now I try to put safety first at all times, even if I come off as a stick in the mud.
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A wheelchair? Was it a riding accident?
And I think it's a good thing if you consider safety a bit more, but do you at least look back on what you did, and feel pleased you did it - if not proud? I guess living to the fullest for some people is more risky than others
And OMG! You learned to joust?! 
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Hmm...well the thing that put me in a wheel chair I am sort of glad it happened. I was on a trail ride with two other people on their thoroughbreds, and I was on my arabian. They took off galloping as hard as they could with no warning down a very bad road. When we stopped finally I told the girl I was riding with how dangerous that was, how one wrong step could end a horse. She looked like it scared her a bit, so I hoped the rest of the ride would go well. Sadly after a bit more riding her father took off again. Naturally, being on hot blooded horses, ours followed. I held back Hawke, my arab, but my leather reins stretched and came undone. Next thing I knew I was barreling past both horses headed for concrete. I leaned forward and tried to grab his bit to stop him, only for him to loose his footing and us both to come down on the street, him on top of me. If anything I hope it taught them to ride safer, for their sakes and their horses. Hawke and I came to an agreement never to be that stupid again, and we haven't. He changed as much as I did.
And jousting is some of the most fun I've ever had on a horse! I've galloped through the sand of a wash, as well as a shallow river. but to gallop on the beach is a dream I've had for a looong time. I think everyone does.
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Wow, that is one good lesson. I've seen a share of stupidity out hacking and just in the school, and you're right; it isn't safe. Especially, as you say, with hot blooded horses.
And I hope you don't take it wrong, but I think it's amazing that you could see a change in Hawke from an experience like that. I don't think I mentioned before, but Arabian's are my biggest obsession and the one breed I desperately want to own. I know they were treasured, years ago, for being incredibly loyal, among other things, so I can imagine it scared Hawke that he hurt you and that would certainly cause a change.
As for jousting, I'm not surprised it was great fun! And even galloping through a river is more than i've done XD. I think a lot of people dream of riding on a beach. Something else I've wanted to do that kind of stems from it is actually go swimming with a horse. A teacher of mine at college said though, because of how a horse swims, it can be incredibly difficult to turn them when they're out of their depth, and a horse has actually been known to just swim out to see, unable to turn back to land.
Needless to say, it put me off a little
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Hawke is the best horse I've ever owned. I trust him with my life, because we've both seen the worst from each other. Arabians are one of the most amazing breeds I've ever known as far as intelligence and loyalty go. You do need to be careful with them, because they are incredibly sensitive and will give you what you ask, sometimes at your and their own risk. One of the reasons so many people think arabs are idiots is because they are too strong with them, and forget the breed's original purpose. I'm sure you know all this though.
And yes, swimming with a horse can be both exhillerating and very dangerous. From one end of a river or small lake to another is one thing, but a horse will get stuck swimming out to sea simply because they don't know how to turn back.
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I would love to have that relationship with a horse one day. An Arabian if I have any say
And yeah, I'm a bit of a swot when it comes to this particular breed. I actually have to do a research study for one of my uni course modules by next week. I was going to put a questionnaire together and get some responses. I was thinking of looking at reasons people shy away from owning Arabians - if the stigma attached is off putting, or they're too high strung, or people don't like the appearance... Some of the things you mentioned are probably quite valid.
I've never ridden a Tennessee walker. I would actually love to ride a pure Friesian, though. They have to be my second favourite breed
And it sounds like you've been swimming with horses...
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[link] this is most recent, and [link] is from 3 years ago when my filly was still alive.
Swot? hehe more slang huh? I love it. I'm kind of an accent and language freak. My favorite languages being Welsh, Irish, French, and Czech. I know a little French, and can read a little German. I'm rusty since I have no one to practice with. Americans have a phobia of knowedge. They think it might hurt to expand their brains.
Tennessee walkers are fun when they gait naturally. The big lickers aren't my cup of tea really. So are pasos. I used to have a gaited morgan too. Gaited horses are just fun, because they move differently. I actually taught my arab to gait a little.
Friesians are the ultimate dream.Someday I'll have one just cuz. Maybe a half arab one. And no I've never swam with a horse, I just know about it.
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I saw that photograph! (the second link) and I swear I stopped breathing. He's so handsome!
And I'm sorry to hear about your filly; she looks adorable.
And yes - swot basically a nerd 
I love that you taught Hawke to gait - that sounds fun...and difficult
So you're big on Friesians, too?
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Yeah 23. I can hardly believe it myself. Sure, he's slowed down over the years, but he can still outrun most young quarterhorses and paints. He can still climb the hardest mountain trails and jump over almost anything I put in front of him. I just pretend he's young, since nothing ages you faster than admitting you're old.
And yeah. You should see the last photos of her before she died. They're on my gallery page. She was so beautiful, and so sweet. She wasn't fast or flashy like Hawke, but at almost 2 she would try anything for me. Small children could ride her no problem. I still cry. There's a huge hole in my heart for her that I've been trying to fill with all the rescues I can find. Sadly I just keep making that hole deeper since I can't keep the rescues.
And German huh? That's a hard language. So full of hard sounds and stops. I would love to learn more languages...even more of what I know. But it's hard when no one else will play with you.
And it actually wasn't hard to teach him to gait, he's a brilliant horse. I just took his normal prance and changed his posture. Smooth as an arab can be, I'll tell you that. I haven't ridden many crosses, Americans aren't big on them. I mean if they do they have to go and make it a breed. Like moreisians, pintabians, morabs, and warlanders. I've ridden a lot of different breeds. Percherons, andalusians, arabians, quarterhorses, tennessee walkers, paso finos, standard bred, icelandic, on and on. My favorite so far as riding goes is the tennessee walkers. They're comfy.
And Friesians, arabs, and andalusians are all on the same level! The perfect horse would be an arab crossed with an andalusian, then that crossed with a friesian.
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That's Arabs for you, lol. They don't age like the rest; they'll just keep on going
I'll definitely check out some of your filly's pictures. I'm so sorry about it (though it's sort of redundant and doesn't help at all). I've lost people close to me, rather than horses, but it hurts all the same. And I think it says a lot about you that a two year old would try so hard to make you happy.
And yeah. German. I had to take French through Primary school so by the time I got to secondary, I was really fed up with it. French and I just never meshed. Halfway though secondary school when we had to select the subjects we'd take forward for GCSE's, I dropped French like a hot potato. It left me with Spanish, Latin or German. As I'd been forced to take German alongside French, I went for that, since I wouldnt' have to start from scratch again. Sometimes though, I wish I'd gone for Spanish. I love the language.
OMG, you have ridden so many different horses! And I kind of gathered that America was big on breeds. Over here, everything has got a bit of everything, save the racehorses
And I do like Andies, but not enough to rate them with Arabians
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She was just a special horse. And no worries about being redundant. There is much else to say in a situation like that.
French is fun for me. Spanish is everywhere, in one slaughtered form or another. In california white is actually a minority. I learned spanish and french are actually almost identical, the difference is in where the sounds are made. I learned french in highschool and as a result was able to ask the spanish speaking illegal immagrants what parts they needed for their cars a whole lot better. lol.
America is HUGE on breeds. And papers. I have a gorgeous sabino paint mare who people agree she's gorgeous, but I get sympathetic head shakes when they find our she's unpapered and crossbred. it's a little maddening. So much inbreeding...er "linebreeding" goes on that horses have huge breed related health problems as it is. Crossing is what got us breeds as it is. meh..sorry...rant.
My first horse was a mustang. Her name was Bonnie. Mustangs are some of the hardiest, smartest, funnest horses to ride on the trail. Kigers are nice, and they come in pretty colors.
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I was so young when I started French that I can't remember what thoughts I had on it, but languages in general have always been more mind-boggling than fun for me. It surprised me to hear that French and Spanish are so similar, but it's pretty cool that you could cross a language barrier with it
And a sabino? Really
I do love mustangs, based on what I've heard and what I've seen, and Kigers do have some stunning colourations in pictures. Sadly, I have no hands on experience with them
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