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This is actually based on and a tribute to the cover of Green Lantern / Green Arrow #1 by Neal Adams.The awesome lines are by
Colours by me
Original lines can be found here jazzluca.deviantart.com/art/Tr…
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Wonderful work ... the lineart's great but the colours and inks are fantastic too. Transformers are tricky ... they need to draw metallic but you can't bung loads of reflection on their armour like you can with, say, Iron Man or the Silver Surfer. They have more of a 'matte' effect, if that's the right word. You've done really well here.
Shockwave would TOTALLY kick Soundwave's ass though!
As for seconds-in-command, I like an effectively-portrayed Starscream - not the bumbling oaf from the cartoon who's crystal clear about his desire to usurp command but more of a cunning schemer, who Megatron keeps in his position because he's such a dangerous warrior. Soundwave would be a better lieutenant to Shockers than Starscream would though. They're much more attuned, both cold and clinical strategists, rather than Megatron and Starscream, who are more straightforward soldiers.
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Thanks mate, glad you like it.
Yeah, certain types of shine work better on Transformers and different types work better humanoid characters such Silver Surfer. I agree, Shockwave's more in Megatron's league when it comes to power, although Soundwave's still definitely one of my favourite characters.
Soundwave's obviously the more loyal lieutenant, but it wouldn't be the without a calculating schemer like Starscream just waiting for the right opportunity to pounce. The cartoon version's have less developed characters which is why Starscream gives away his intentions in a more bumbling manner.
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Agreed and Soundwave was almost a different character in the cartoon. He started off as a really effective warrior (check him out beating up the Autobots in the very first episode) and Megatron seemed to rate him highly but within a few episodes, Megs was calling him a bumbling oaf when he dropped some energon cubes. In the movie, he couldn't even form a sentence ... he was probably the one humanoid character who was less articulate than the Dinobots.
Comics Soundwave was a totally different animal - you could tell Simon Furman liked him. One of my all-time favourite moments from the comic was when Soundwave and Ultra Magnus were fighting side by side against the Quintessons (IIRC) and briefly considered patching up their differences.
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Yeah, I remember that first episode well, when he takes on a few Autobots at the same time and comes out on top. Cool scene
Being the Furman fan that I am, the Marvel comic Soundwave was my favourite manifestation of the character. I remember those issues too (not as clearly though).
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Probably Soundwave's brightest hour in the comics was coming closer to defeating Optimus Prime than Megatron had ever managed by crippling Bumblebee and taking him hostage, luring Prime into a trap. That story saw him shooting down Starscream's challenge for leadership of the Deceps by calling him 'A missile with a mouth'.
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I remember that one pretty well. I'd been reading IDW's TF Classics UK books, so I got the chance to re-read that one a few months ago. Great little story. Lol, Starscream, missile with a mouth
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I think that was Geoff Senior's debut storyline. There was a great recap of it on Inflatable Dalek's Solar Pool blog, which is where I got the idea for my 'Thundercracker is a douche' pic ages ago. Here's the link to the recap:
thesolarpool.weebly.com/transf…
I use the term 'LOL' sparingly but no kidding, I LOL'd when I read that blog entry.
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Ha, I'm quite familiar with that Seekers cover and have even used it for drawing reference one time but I'd never noticed what Thundercracker was doing.
Up until fairly recently, I didn't even know what LOL meant. But these days I seem to be using it too much. I need to make a concentrated effort to stop using before it becomes too much of a habit.
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I used to post a lot on message boards and quickly picked up a lot of the lingo but I've always done my best to avoid using 'LOL'. It doesn't particularly annoy me when other people post it but it's just not for me. It certainly doesn't annoy me as much as certain Americanisms (e.g. 'my bad' instead of 'my fault' or 'I could care less') being used by Brits. I'm a stuffy old git that way though, I take grammar seriously. Don't get me going on the way the yoof of today are butchering the English language, especially well-educated, middle-class kids who are just doing it to be street.
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I was the same as you, and still am for the most part, but its an uphill struggle these days and when I see how much time everyone else is saving when it comes to typing and texting I sometimes just go with the flow.
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Fantastic! Love the lightening effect in the background. Really brings out the foreground characters.
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Thanks mate. I did actually take the background into account when I shaded this one. Sometimes, I don't do the background till after I colour the foreground characters.
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Great cover and great color work! I liked the Marvel comics when Soundwave and Shockwave worked together. The one issue that comes to mind was Issue #25 in the American Marvel comics series.
Link to the wiki: marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Transfor…
I thought they made a good commander and 2nd in command. More so than Soundwave and Megatron.
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Thanks very much.
Yeah, I loved the Transformers comics of those times much more than what's been coming out recently. Personally, I think Soundwave makes a great second-in-commanin general. I've always been a big fan of Shockwave too and enjoyed his rivalry with Megatron in the Marvel comics.
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Yeah, Soundwave is a good second in command. Shockwave had a lot more potential than what was really shown in the TV series. I felt the comics really did him justice. The rivalry was fantastic between the two of them. 
I agree that the recent transformer comics are not as good as the 80's marvel comics with one exception. The Last Stand of the Wreckers limited series I thought was well done.
What did you think of the resurrected 80's transformer marvel series that IDW published?
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Lol, I'm just re-reading Last Stand at the moment. To be fair, the IDW continuity started of really well and was full of potential. The Infiltration/Escalation stories were well written and the character designs were modern but still close enough to their iconic classic versions. I really enjoyed Stormbringer too, which I rated not far off from some of my all time favourite TF stories such as G2, War Within and Target 2006. Unfortunately, things went in the wrong direction (for me anyway), the character designs just got totally wild and as for the characters personalities, they all just turned into psychopaths.
I did enjoy the Regeneration 1 series, probably more through nostalgia though. I don't think was as good as a lot of other stuff Simon Furman has written, although it did tie up a lot of loose ends. It felt a little bit rushed to me and I didn't like the fact that it didn't lead into or leave things open for Generation 2, which is an absolute classic in my book.
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And yes I too was alarmed at how characters did turn into psychopaths/sociopaths. The only sociopath from the original G1 crew is supposed to be Sunstreaker. And I like that character design with him that Dreamwave did. Sunstreaker went from that complaining yellow bot in the back to that "yellow bot who you might stab you in the back". The insecticons story arc with Dreamwave had such potential especially with Bumper. The unassuming likeable bot who could have potentially been a decepticon spy.
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Its good to know that its not just me, failing to let go of the past then
Yeah, its a shame Dreamwave didn't finish that story, not to mention the WW story they were working on and even the GI Joe crossover. DW's stories were a little bit bland to start off (not the War Within series, which was absolutely awesome), but at least they didn't mess the characters personalities and the artwork was always excellent. I know Pat Lee's not a very popular guy, but he did draw some pretty cool Transformers, they also had Guido Guidi who's probably my favourite TF artist at the moment and of course they had Don Figueroa who was top dog at the time. Unlike IDW, their content had gradually improved as time went on.
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Na, have no fear. You are not the only one to hold onto the past transformers comics.
When I saw the 2nd gen graphic novels I picked them up. My brother picked up target 2006 and then shared it with me later on.
I agree Dreamwave was bland at first plot wise but the art more then made up for it. Just as the stories really started to get good was when they thanked. I wanted to see what the "Age of Wrath" was all about, or Megatron and the Predacons were up to as well.
I will say that IDW did make a great Wheelie issue. Showing how Wheelie become a survivalist and why he ended up with his sing song speech.
Of all the 'named' single Transfomer issues I am not sure which is my favorite. One transformer I wish they could have done would have been Punch & Counter Punch. That transformer was gimmicky but I felt there was some potential there for a good story.
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Yeah, I would've liked to see what DW was planning to do with the Predacons. Speaking of Predacons, DW were working on a Beast Wars comic that I would've liked to see too. Oh well.
Yeah, the Wheelie spotlight was pretty good. In fact, quite a few of the spotlights were entertaining. I'll have to re-read some of them one of these days.
Punch/Counter Punch is not really a favourite of mine but yeah, there's definitely potential for a good story with him.
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Yeah. *sigh* I'm sure there is plenty of fan fiction out there with DW story ideas. Maybe one day the DW storyline can be resurrected a la marvel 80-90's comics resurrection.
Beast Wars would have been interesting to explore with comics even involving both universes in some way much like IDW has done somewhat with the current transformers series with Rattrap.
One other thing that occurred to me about DW was that they made Omega Supreme bigger than the combiners. The tv series had Omega the autobot counter to Devastator. In reality Omega was a battle station much like Metroplex so size wise metro and omega would be similar heights.
The spotlights are definitely worth a re-read.
Punch was bland for a transformer and I think the transformer folks improved with dealer/double dealer.
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There's one thing about IDW's inclusion of Rattrap that slightly bugs is me is the fact that they didn't give him a pre-Beast Wars design. Especially after all the messing around with designs of all the G1 characters.
Yeah I noticed DW's Omega was a fair bit bigger than the cartoon and Marvel comic version. I remember they even did a cool cover of him taking on Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Shockwave. Personally I've always seen him as being bigger than the gestalts like Devastator, but smaller than the city bots, Metroplex/Trypticon, but I just go with flow when it comes to what size the comic creators give him.
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IDW - Continuity? What is that? We're just making this stuff up as we go along!
I would have liked to see a pre-beast wars Rat Trap design & transformation.
I'm not sure if I saw that cover with Omega and the deceps but yeah I agree that I go with the flow when it comes to the size creators give him. Omega can be a deus ex machina in the comics and animated series. (With a few exceptions like when the comics needed to push more recent transformers.)
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Ha! Its funny, I was sure they were making things up as they went along too.
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I agree about the Infiltration and Escalation along with Stormbringer as well. My brother picked up the target 2006 graphic novels and that was fantastic. One of my favorite combiner sets were the Technobots so it was pretty cool to see them in a series.
Yeah, the story arcs for the recent transformers series just doesn't do it for me. It felt more gimmicky and having to work with the toy companies making the different sets. I liked some of the individually named transformer books but they were further back with Stormbringer.
It would have been good to have the lead in for G2 and I think something was lost losing that connection. A slight nod was given when a G2 hot rod appeared amongst the other hot rods from different universes in that section of story in Regeneration.
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