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Description The rigurous and fully restored skeletals of CM 9380, originally labeled as AMNH 973 and described by Osborn in 1905 and 1906. It was sold to CM during second world war, in fear that a japanese attack to New York could destroy all Tyrannosaurus specimens. It is the holotypic specimen , so it is the one the species was named after and Tyrannosaurus rex by definition, all of the other specimens are referred to the species. The mounted skeleton is based to a great degree in AMNH 5027, and carries several innacuracies from the time it was assambled that are very hard to correct. It is exhibited at the Carnegie museum of Natural history.

Including GDI with top view of FMNH PR 2981 scaled down to match the measurements reported for CM 9380 in Osborn 1915.

12/11/2018: Updated basically everything. Mass will probably need to be tweaked in the future.

01/07/2020: Updated the dorsal series neural arches to be in line with detail shown in other reconstructions; same goes for the pelvic girdle. Added furcula and hyoid.

References: 

H.F. Osborn (1905) TYRANNOSAURUS AND OTHER CRETACEOUS CARNIVOROUS DINOSAURS. Bulletin American Museum of Natural History. Vol XXl.

Christopher A. Brochu (2003): Osteology of Tyrannosaurus Rex: Insights from a nearly complete Skeleton and High-Resolution Computed Tomographic Analysis of the Skull. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, 22:sup4, 1-138

Bates KT, Manning PL, Hodgetts D, Sellers WI (2009) Estimating Mass Properties of Dinosaurs Using Laser Imaging and 3D Computer Modelling. PLoS ONE4(2): e4532. doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0… .

J.R Hutchinson , K.T Bates , J.Molnar , V. Allen , P.J Makovicky. (2011) A Computational Analysis of Limb and Body Dimensions in Tyrannosaurus rex with Implications for Locomotion, Ontogeny, and Growth. PLoS ONE 6(10): e26037.
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TamerMansour [2023-01-21 09:12:04 +0000 UTC]

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JES86 [2022-09-23 01:07:37 +0000 UTC]

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Strick67 [2018-12-19 10:41:01 +0000 UTC]

Good restoration, haven't seen your first version so I can't compare. Some similarities to Sue and I guess that's appropriate.

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JES86 [2018-11-13 20:28:10 +0000 UTC]

A lot of changes to the skull.  The previous version much more resembled the mounted skeleton.

I realize the skull is fairly incomplete, but why these changes specifically?

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JES86 In reply to JES86 [2018-11-13 20:29:06 +0000 UTC]

Okay - saw the reply below, so never mind.

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Jdangerousdinosaur [2018-11-12 21:32:32 +0000 UTC]

great update Franoys (: and what a heavy animal this was are you updating anymore of your diagrams ?

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Franoys In reply to Jdangerousdinosaur [2018-11-13 07:47:18 +0000 UTC]

Thank you; and yes. One just never stops learning and updating stuff  

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Jdangerousdinosaur In reply to Franoys [2018-11-13 14:04:21 +0000 UTC]

cant wait man 

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Phillip2001 [2018-11-12 12:59:31 +0000 UTC]

Very cool, my dude!!

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Franoys In reply to Phillip2001 [2018-11-12 18:47:41 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Phillip2001 In reply to Franoys [2018-11-13 09:48:10 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome, my dude!!

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ShinRedDear [2018-11-12 09:17:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the much needed update! I might have one question, it's the contact between the femur and the tibia/fibula. Would there be a bit more space between the bone, thanks to cartilage so the bones would not break eachother?

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Franoys In reply to ShinRedDear [2018-11-12 18:34:44 +0000 UTC]

The tibiae and the femora are definately separated by a gap which would have been filled with cartilague in life. The proximal end of the fibulae obscures a bit the view of the fibular condyle of the femora, but it is not in direct contact, there is mediolateral spacing. I leave a bit more space than other authors in fact. Could this space have been bigger (after all chickens seem to have a good bit of cartilague in their joints)? Potentially; but for that I would prefer to examine avian bodies in person; will probably be able to do so soon.

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ShinRedDear In reply to Franoys [2018-11-13 12:32:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the detailed explanation and good luck on avian skeleton studies!

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TKWTH In reply to ShinRedDear [2018-11-12 10:39:54 +0000 UTC]

Also is it just me or are the condyles a little wonky? (Also you forgot to detail most of the dorsal neural spines lmao otherwise great, don't get me wrong!)

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Franoys In reply to TKWTH [2018-11-12 18:31:24 +0000 UTC]

The condyles are right, read the osteology.

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Paleonerd01 [2018-11-12 08:32:42 +0000 UTC]

What inspired you to make changes to the overall skull reconstruction? Great update by the way. 

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Franoys In reply to Paleonerd01 [2018-11-12 18:42:49 +0000 UTC]

I found the maxilla to be better ilustrated in Osborn 1912,as oposed to how it was in Osborn 1906. I also used another specimen to restore the missing portions of the head now (AMNH 5027), previously I had used my first version of Sue's head; but it involved heavy speculation because of how damaged the fossil was. I had since then updated Sue's skull, but not the holotype's. I changed some decissions that I made as to how to scale certain stuff, for example the squamosal of CM 9380 is rather big in general but specially very tall. Before I had scaled the depth of the posterior region of the head to match the height of the squamosal; but this time I simple adapted it to it's length and left the single bone proportionally tall.

And thank you!

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Paleonerd01 In reply to Franoys [2018-11-12 19:53:30 +0000 UTC]

Interesting thanks for your response 

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Zhombah [2018-11-12 00:36:52 +0000 UTC]

Hot upgrade

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Franoys In reply to Zhombah [2018-11-12 07:34:09 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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JES86 [2018-06-21 19:20:33 +0000 UTC]

I've always liked this skeleton - I call it 'Gwangi' because this was the skeleton that Charles R. Knight's famous mural was based on - the one where, due to concurrently incomplete remains, the eye was placed too far forward on the head - and it was this iconic painting that, not only Ray Harryhausen's (and Willis O'Brien's) Gwangi was based on, but the King Kong T. rex (reflected also in Peter Jackson's 2005 Vastatosaurus rex), as well as the Rhedosaurus from the Beast From Twenty-Thousand Fathoms.

So... sort of a celebrity T. rex.

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Paleonerd01 In reply to JES86 [2018-07-08 07:20:06 +0000 UTC]

Great reconstruction, if I may ask what’s the estimated dull length of the holotype? 

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Franoys In reply to JES86 [2018-06-22 09:58:17 +0000 UTC]

Couldn't expect less from the type specimen!

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asari13 [2018-04-11 11:08:45 +0000 UTC]

cool

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Evodolka [2017-12-18 16:45:22 +0000 UTC]

so this is the holotype?
does it have a name like stan & sue or is it just known as T.Rex holotyoe

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Batavotyrannus In reply to Evodolka [2017-12-18 23:52:15 +0000 UTC]

His name is Bichael.

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Evodolka In reply to Batavotyrannus [2017-12-18 23:55:33 +0000 UTC]

that real?
or is this a rick and morty joke with the 2 conjoined chefs?

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Batavotyrannus In reply to Evodolka [2017-12-19 00:38:40 +0000 UTC]

Which do you think.

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Evodolka In reply to Batavotyrannus [2017-12-19 00:48:31 +0000 UTC]

i wanted to say the rick and morty one but after looking that up it turned out to be picheal not bicheal
so i will assume the one that wasn't that option

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Batavotyrannus In reply to Evodolka [2017-12-19 08:51:01 +0000 UTC]

Bicheal is another meme.

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Evodolka In reply to Batavotyrannus [2017-12-19 17:27:02 +0000 UTC]

is it?
never heard of it

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Batavotyrannus In reply to Evodolka [2017-12-19 18:22:55 +0000 UTC]

Mike = Michael, Bike = Bichael

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Evodolka In reply to Batavotyrannus [2017-12-19 18:40:26 +0000 UTC]

...ok then?

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RexFan684 In reply to Evodolka [2018-05-27 18:53:30 +0000 UTC]

It’s just known by its ID number, CM 9380

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Evodolka In reply to RexFan684 [2018-05-27 21:26:02 +0000 UTC]

that is a shame
well i think i'll call it Osborn as it said that Osborn described this one, i am open to other name suggestions
my other name is Tygan as it seems fitting for a Tyrannosaurus

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RexFan684 In reply to Evodolka [2018-05-27 21:54:04 +0000 UTC]

Or Andrew since it’s at the Carnegie

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Evodolka In reply to RexFan684 [2018-05-27 22:27:15 +0000 UTC]

that works too
i am cool with anything that isn't CM 9380

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kirkseven In reply to Evodolka [2017-12-18 23:49:43 +0000 UTC]

Calling it "the T.rex holotype" is pretty much it's name if you don't want to use the specimen number.

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Evodolka In reply to kirkseven [2017-12-18 23:55:01 +0000 UTC]

ok then, my guess was that the name would be Osborn after the discoverer but holotype works still, and it shows it's the original

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kirkseven In reply to Evodolka [2017-12-19 04:41:21 +0000 UTC]

Carnegie is the nick name for it according to this study.

journals.plos.org/plosone/arti…

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Evodolka In reply to kirkseven [2017-12-19 18:14:24 +0000 UTC]

carnegie?
i think holotype sounds better than that

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Yu-Gi-Nos [2017-11-11 03:32:18 +0000 UTC]

This is GREAT! I wish I had found this sooner!

Wasn't this the specimen that Michael Crichton based his Jurassic Park T-rex skeleton off of or am I remembering the wrong skeleton?

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Franoys In reply to Yu-Gi-Nos [2017-11-11 12:46:38 +0000 UTC]

Indeed it is; along AMNH 5027. Most of the look is provided by AMNH 5027 in fact; CM 9380 added the information on the hindlimbs, arms and feet. 

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Yu-Gi-Nos In reply to Franoys [2017-11-11 14:17:53 +0000 UTC]

Cool to know! I was not aware that he referred to two specimens! I thank you greatly for the info (and again for drawing such a good Rex)

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damouraptor [2017-10-17 23:04:49 +0000 UTC]

Nice T. rex, it would be a shame if someone were to use it as reference and then credit the creator for it

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Majestic-Colossus [2017-08-15 15:57:27 +0000 UTC]

How robust would Tyrannosaurus' legs be?

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Franoys In reply to Majestic-Colossus [2017-08-15 23:32:00 +0000 UTC]

Tyrannosaurus rex has the most robust hindlimbs of any member of theropoda, the mid-shaft femur circumference of the largest specimens is only matched by Deinocheirus mirificus specimen MPC-D 100/127, which with a femoral circumference of 560 mm, matches those of Tyrannosaurus specimens RTMP 81.12 1 and Samson (560 mm), but still outsized by those of RSM 2523.8 (570 mm) MOR 1128 (580 mm), and FMNH PR 2080 (580 mm). 

The tibia also have the biggest circumferences of any member of theropoda, and they are also the longest. Femoral and tibial circumferences have allometric physical correlations with body mass since they are weight bearing bones, meaning this could be further indication of Tyrannosaurus having the most massive theropod specimens within it (as indicated by Campione et al 2014).The femoral tibial and fibular condyles are very wide and robust, and so is the femoral head, therefore the joints were adapted to withstand a lot of stress. Tyrannosaurus also has the longest ilia registered in theropoda, meaning the ischiotibialis was very wide and massive,  the forth trochanter is very well developed so the legs were powered by big muscles as well and they were the most massive between those of it's kind.

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Dinopithecus In reply to Franoys [2017-08-30 03:46:11 +0000 UTC]

That's very interesting to read. I knew Tyrannosaurus had a more robust femur than did other giant theropods, but I wasn't so sure about the distal limb bones (like the tibia), as I knew they were longer than those of the others. If they were correspondingly thicker, I think that would make up for greater length.

I say "make up for" because I imagine Tyrannosaurus as a very strong wrestler of giant prey animals, using its very robust skull/teeth and absurdly muscular neck to subdue them. Having longer legs that aren't thicker would be disadvantageous for this task (they would take more stress). But since Tyrannosaurus' tibia was also thicker with what I assume are also wider and more robust joints, I think it'd still be just as strong as the short, stocky tibiae of say, carnosaurs.

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JonaGold2000 In reply to Majestic-Colossus [2017-08-15 22:41:47 +0000 UTC]

thicc af

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