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Eouintus [2022-09-21 00:16:47 +0000 UTC]
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souletyler [2022-06-21 20:05:15 +0000 UTC]
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Lucas-Stl [2021-11-08 21:38:26 +0000 UTC]
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juha91 [2021-10-20 23:45:32 +0000 UTC]
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Daskarios [2021-09-21 17:13:55 +0000 UTC]
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aaronJR126 [2021-08-22 14:35:57 +0000 UTC]
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Touch-Not-This-Cat [2020-10-02 00:57:28 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but I doubt their clothes would have survived the jungle journey intact like that. More likely, they would have continued to wear sailor’s clothes, unless they hauled around a separate set in a sack for just this Occasion.
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Lupilstinskin [2019-09-17 12:26:30 +0000 UTC]
Wow great art, and awesome style.
Talking about Chel`s outfit, and the thing of being historically accurate, as far as I knew (I supposed I am wrong jajaja) the idea behind "El Dorado" in this movie was something like a wird mix of many diferent pre-Columbian cultures, and portrait "el Dorado" as a legend place, something like Atlantis.
That is why the name Chel (women in mayan), El Dorado (a place in Colombia), the ball game (aztec), etc.
At the tame of the screening of the movie many people protested because the "historical horrors", so the creatives behind the story explained what I just wrote
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Diabolik91 [2019-09-14 09:20:39 +0000 UTC]
that's amazing!
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Carnelian-Troubador [2019-08-13 02:57:01 +0000 UTC]
What I want to know that if the people in El Dorado hadn't made contact with Spanish people before, how were they able to speak the same language??
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FadedShadowFox [2018-06-01 07:48:25 +0000 UTC]
Ohh, yeah! This is just what I wanted. Thank you!
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jbriskin [2018-01-29 05:51:02 +0000 UTC]
Funny, I'd always thought of the people of El Dorado in the film as being Maya (the mention of Xibalba-- the Mayan spirit world-- by Chel is a bit of a tipoff)...
In case you're wondering what would make me think this, I wrote a research paper about the Maya for my freshman year high-school English class, after reading Barbara Kingsolver's The Bean Trees. (The alternative was to write about the Cherokee Nation.)
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Wickfield In reply to jbriskin [2018-01-29 14:14:30 +0000 UTC]
Honestly they were a pretty big mix between the Mayans and Aztecs. I just went with Aztecs for the series because the movie was so clearly based off of the experiences of Hernan Cortes/
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Ruitherga [2017-10-07 00:55:02 +0000 UTC]
nice!
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Jioseph-superfan63 [2017-09-10 21:26:12 +0000 UTC]
"Historically Accurate".........
Because the existed peoples from the existing El Dorado existed!
And the poor spanishs didn't dress as what they wanted!
And there are proofs about the clothes used by the "El-Doradians"!
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helskald In reply to Jioseph-superfan63 [2017-09-19 05:10:09 +0000 UTC]
El Dorado was a Spanish myth about a lost city of either Aztec or Mayan origin. So yes, technically there is historical precedent for what Doradans would've worn. Although you have a point to some degree.
As for the Spaniards, no they didn't wear "whatever they want" because they didn't have shopping malls, sweatshops, and boutiques that everyeone could buy from. They had tailors, who made certain clothes in certain styles, and anything custom would be extremely expensive. If anything, the only issue here is that there's no reason for the artist to change Tulio's ponytail to loose hair. Long-haired people have worn ponytails for as long as there has been scraps of fabric to tie their hair back with. Another thing is that Miguel and Tulio's clothes are a bit too fancy for a pair of poor con-men. But, hey, it is still well-designed stuff.
Good job, Wickfield!
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Jioseph-superfan63 In reply to helskald [2017-09-22 22:52:42 +0000 UTC]
Wow, that's a lot of facts.
But honestly I did that comment more as a joke than a serious argument :/
I didn't want to insult the artist in neither a way.
But now that I relook at the comment seems really incorrect, maybe I will hidden it.
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Jioseph-superfan63 In reply to helskald [2017-09-24 20:07:40 +0000 UTC]
Ah. Why didn't you tell me that we weren't about a overly serious discussion.
I make drama only for a thing!
Then......are you really sure that El Dorado is a myth? Because I went to it 3 days ago. They make fantastic burritos.
And why do you think that Tulio and Miguel couldn't wear something as fancy as what they wear in the drawing? They're gods after all!
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helskald In reply to Jioseph-superfan63 [2017-09-25 00:08:00 +0000 UTC]
Poor gods, my friend. Though possibly they could've spent most of their money on the outfits to better scam people.
That being said, El Dorado is not originally a place, it's a person. Either "El Hombre Dorado" or "El Rey Dorado" (Meaning either the Golden Man or the Golden King). He was a mythical chief who took a raft of gold-and coated himself in gold-out into the middle of a lake as an offering to a god, but the raft broke and he drowned at the bottom of the lake. The Conquistadors were looking for the spot he drowned in in hopes of gaining the gold. Overtime "El Dorado" became the short-hand for where he might've drowned, and I believe the misunderstanding of it being a city was that it was so much gold it was described as an underwater "city of gold" or something to that effect. However the animators may have been aware of that since at the beginning origin-story for the movie's El Dorado, you see it rise up from water, as if suggesting it was below the water.
El Dorado simply means "The Golden" in Spanish. So the idea that Dorado means "City of Gold" is a mistake.
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Jioseph-superfan63 In reply to helskald [2017-09-29 22:33:16 +0000 UTC]
Honestly I think that the movie maked good clothes for these spanish mens. And Tulio without ponytail seems pointless considered that even the vickings wore them.
I studied spanish and i know it. In italian would be " Il dorato"
And isn't this what the myth are made of? By a lot of thing happened who have maked everyone believe to other thing that don't have anything to do with that?
Like Atlantis.
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helskald In reply to Jioseph-superfan63 [2017-10-01 05:07:45 +0000 UTC]
No that's a very recent interpretation of the myth. In all the traditional versions of the myth, El Dorado is the nickname for the chief.
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Sleepwalker48 [2017-07-31 20:06:06 +0000 UTC]
'Discovered' is probably a subjective term, implying that Europeans needed to usher in 'Enlightened' ideas to the 'heathens' of the New World at that time.
'Enlightened' ideas, converting the native peoples with Christianity. And if they didn't convert, well, rape and slavery was an option.
Other than that, neat pic.
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Wickfield In reply to Sleepwalker48 [2017-07-31 20:27:13 +0000 UTC]
"Discovering" can't be subjective, it just means you found something you didn't know about previously - it isn't a value term. Still, I'm more than familiar with the issues of colonialization in the "new" world, but I had no need to discuss it in my description for this specific image.
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Quick-5 [2017-04-06 17:08:18 +0000 UTC]
"Awesome" and "Buzzfeed" are two words you almost never hear in the same sentence.
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Wickfield In reply to Quick-5 [2017-04-06 17:24:31 +0000 UTC]
Lol, very true...actually since I finished the series I realized Buzzfeed's video wasn't all that accurate itself. Still interesting though!
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Animefan-279 [2016-02-26 04:18:31 +0000 UTC]
Fitting that Miguel looks like a Shakespearean character. Also, what would an Aztec slave or sacrifice wear? Apparently, Chel was going to be a sacrifice.
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Carnelian-Troubador In reply to Animefan-279 [2019-08-14 02:20:14 +0000 UTC]
Late comment, but it depended on the sacrifice. Aztecs performed sacrifices quite often, since they believed that the sun god, Huitzilopochtli, needed blood sacrifices to keep the sun "on," or else it would be devoured by the moon goddess, as the two were always fighting (aka, the sun rising and setting). They also performed many other sacrifices to other gods; if my research is correct, the sky god Quetzalcoatl, who took the form of a feathered serpent, was one of the only gods that didn't require a human sacrifice, but rather corn instead. Some sacrifices were done with a lot of pomp and circumstance, such as those of higher-up members of society such as nobles, who viewed it as a necessary duty and honour when it happened, and there would be a large ceremony for them before they were sacrificed, so I believe they'd wear a lot more ornate clothing than what Chel was wearing. Others were more routine, such as sacrifices of commoners, criminals, and prisoners of war. Since Chel was not of noble background and initially accused of stealing from the temple, I suppose her outfit would be much plainer.
I did a lot of in-depth research on Aztec sacrifices a few years back and am mainly going off of what I learned out of some books and internet searches, but if any of this is inaccurate, I apologize!
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Wickfield In reply to Animefan-279 [2016-02-26 04:29:47 +0000 UTC]
I'm sure you can find out that information using the sources I've posted. I prefer to depict my female characters in situations of power, not when they are being mistreated or abused.
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SceneDemonz [2016-02-20 02:00:27 +0000 UTC]
Idk why, but this one is one of my favorites lol
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Wickfield In reply to SceneDemonz [2016-02-20 14:55:21 +0000 UTC]
It was a good way to start the series!
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SovietMentality [2015-12-02 21:45:55 +0000 UTC]
They look even more charming then usual
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BorussiaMacau89 [2015-07-24 01:38:20 +0000 UTC]
Gasp! Chels a cross dresser!
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