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Published: 2015-05-11 19:02:16 +0000 UTC; Views: 1179; Favourites: 44; Downloads: 11
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Description my pet raven Kralya
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BluetorchQs [2015-10-31 03:53:42 +0000 UTC]

Noticed she has something tied around her legs in other pictures. Do you let her fly around or do you keep her indoors/tied?

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Rahula87 [2015-08-01 14:28:35 +0000 UTC]

It is always a pleasure to look at your raven photo ^__^

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Icearstorm [2015-05-18 23:31:08 +0000 UTC]

Amazing bird! I would love to work with some corvids eventually, especially since they rank as some of the most intelligent creatures in the world. Unfortunately, in the US, having a crow or raven is strictly out of the question. I've researched it a bit and have found that it is easier to hunt corvids than keep one, and it would actually be easier to keep a hawk (in legal terms) than a crow, jay, or raven. I wish they did some kind of apprenticeship for corvid-keeping so people could learn about their biology and intelligence, kind of in the way falconry apprenticeships work. You would learn as much as possible, find a sponser and take a test, and could aquire a bird apon passing. This would allow more scientific data collection, but make sure whoever got a bird was going to care for it properly. Do they have any apprenticeship program for corvid-keeping where you live or any other legal requirements, or can anyone own a bird? 

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Vorona-Sasha In reply to Icearstorm [2015-05-20 15:43:32 +0000 UTC]

I live in Ukraine, and there are no special permissions to the content of the birds did not need. Although it would be nice, because people often do not know how to properly care for this bird.

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Icearstorm In reply to Vorona-Sasha [2015-05-20 22:39:53 +0000 UTC]

I see. Kind of like people buying parrots whenever they feel like it here... Wish they had some laws that eliminated potential owners who didn't know what the bird needs. I was watching a documentary, the Parrot Confidential, and it was saying all too often people get these birds and don't know what to do for them. The parrots usually end up getting stressed out and start plucking their feathers out... Do corvids ever do that, I wonder?  The UK is also pretty bad when it comes to ownership laws. All you have to do to get a hawk or owl is walk into a pet shop and buy one- you don't even have to know anything about the bird... And it gives falconry a bad name, since so many "falconers" there are really nothing but pet owners that want to show off their exotic animal that obviously isn't doing too well. They should at least make people do a test to see if they know enough to make good caregivers.

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Vorona-Sasha In reply to Icearstorm [2015-05-21 08:40:30 +0000 UTC]

Irresponsible people in any case it is very sad

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Icearstorm In reply to Vorona-Sasha [2015-05-21 20:35:16 +0000 UTC]

Yes, definitely... : (

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randomkeystone [2015-05-11 19:13:55 +0000 UTC]

A Pet Raven! You are VERY Lucky. This is a fine close-up photograph. Please tell me all about your friend if you would like. I have been feeding (wild?) Crows and sometimes Ravens in the cities where I have lived for many years. They know me but I've not gotten closer than about 12 feet.
There is an American Society of Crows and Ravens and also The Crow Society you may wish to look into...

Best regards,
R.K.

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Icearstorm In reply to randomkeystone [2015-05-18 23:36:42 +0000 UTC]

How do you feed wild crows? I've been trying to get some to come for around a month now using fresh meat and fruit scraps on a platform feeder, but all that comes are a raccoon and a few wrens and catbirds.  I know they're around here somewhere-they call every morning at around dawn and have flown down to scavenge on some roadkill a few feet away from me.  I put the feeder undercover, because only the catbird was brave(or stupid?) enough to come when it was in full view, but still now crows. Should I play a recording of a crow food call ("haaaaw, haaaaw!") to try to get some to come over? Or just wait a while longer?

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randomkeystone In reply to Icearstorm [2015-05-19 13:33:32 +0000 UTC]

A good question and I'll try to answer it as succinctly as possible...   First: If you live in the city; you will be dealing with Crows raised (by their parents) to be extremely distrustful of people. This means it will take years for them to learn to come around at the times when you are there to see them enjoy what you share. You MUST find a REGULAR place OUT in the OPEN or they will avoid landing to feed. Next: They will only be interested in MEAT and/or sometimes white bread and various nuts. They like bones (with a little meat on them) and scraps of fat. They relish canned Cat food. Last: And here IS my secret; develop a special whistle that you call out to them with that they will learn to identify with you alone. REMBEMBER: These animals are extremely intelligent and will NOT be fooled or tamed in any way. I admire and respect Crows and I enjoy even the very tentative relationship it as taken many years to establish. Actually; I began supplementing their food supply so as to prevent them from nest-robbing the local song-birds quite so much. Ravens are even more interesting and often smarter still but the Crows drive them off as soon as I attract them. Ravens are rare in the City and their ranges are more far more rural. It's often one or the other in a given area but NOT both. I encourage you increase your "Corvid" expertise by studying them at length. There are MANY groups and societies devoted to Crows and Ravens so Google them and learn all you can. On that fine and glorious day that they finally come when you whistle; you will be pleased in a way that cannot be described. Note: The "Ravencrow" was here long, long before us. We shall see...

Very best regards and good luck,
R.K.

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Icearstorm In reply to randomkeystone [2015-05-19 20:43:05 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I will try to see if I can get some over.  I've heard of the whistle trick before, but haven't been sure if I should invest the two dollars in one... guess so (I'm fairly stingy when it comes to money... Give me a dollar to buy some chocolate and I'll start reading the weight and calorie content of each bar XD). I live in a suburban area in Florida, and crows are all I see (I looked at several maps and ravens don't seem to come down this far). Oddly enough, the crows here seem to be *relatively* tame, staying put if you're only ten feet away, and flying into the courtyard in my school to pick up some scraps students have dropped (we eat lunch outside). Once a crow landed merely five feet away from me, and didn't look too frightened when I got a few inches closer. After a few seconds of looking for something to eat, it flew up on the roof and watched me for a bit. I'd think, if anything, city crows would be more tame than suburban ones, but from my experience, it seems to be the opposite. Perhaps it's because there are more people in cities, so more of them to bother the crows?

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randomkeystone In reply to Icearstorm [2015-05-21 14:03:26 +0000 UTC]

If you are within 6 ft. of Crows, it is quite likely they have been observing you for some time. Most Ravens do live "Up North" and that is where I usually see them. There is also a sub-species called the "Chihuahuan" Raven which inhabits the Southwestern U.S. especially the Coastal vicinities and I've fed them too. I believe that if I lived in a less populated area I could likely feed them out of my hand more-or-less. In the days when Farmers plowed the fields by hand and horse; Crows would follow right along to exploit whatever creatures were exposed when the furrows were turned. They would land right on the plow and the horse and often enough the Farmer. This was fine but when the Corn was ready to harvest things could become less cooperative. Sometimes I'll put out boiled eggs or cheese. This truly gets attention. Old greasy, sugar-loaded pastries stir things up too. Have fun!
Best regards,
R.K.

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Icearstorm In reply to randomkeystone [2015-05-21 20:43:37 +0000 UTC]

Now I'm thinking back to the time when I fed fried chicken to the pigeons in New York... and they liked it. And then everyone thought they were cannibals... But that's basically like a human eating a pig or cow, so... hmm     But yes, they definitely like high-calorie, fatty things... think most animals do. Like people and their chocolate bars and 1000-Calorie heart-attack-in-a-bag hamburgers...

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Vorona-Sasha In reply to randomkeystone [2015-05-14 11:14:32 +0000 UTC]

What do you want to know , I'll tell you about my bird?

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randomkeystone In reply to Vorona-Sasha [2015-05-15 12:53:02 +0000 UTC]

Is it male or female and how and why did you name her/him? Where did this Raven come from? How long has it been with you? Does it relate with other Ravens? Does it speak? What does it like to do? Do you need a special license or permission to keep it? Do others in your social community also have Ravens? How? Why? When?
Tell me anything you can in terms of what you have learned form this relationship. Enough for now.
Best regards,
R.K.

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Vorona-Sasha In reply to randomkeystone [2015-05-20 15:49:30 +0000 UTC]

It's a girl and her name Kralуа (which means beautiful). I bought it in a kennel when she was a little chick, age 3 weeks. She is now 4 years old. She knows how to speak. In my country you do not need a permit for the content of this bird.

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randomkeystone In reply to Vorona-Sasha [2015-05-21 13:44:53 +0000 UTC]

Very good. Will Kralya leave home someday? I read a (true?) story about a Raven named "Bluesky" that left home to join his own kind when he was about 5 yrs. old, although he often visited his old human friends at times...
You are very lucky to have a Raven friend.
R.K.

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Vorona-Sasha In reply to randomkeystone [2015-05-21 14:12:48 +0000 UTC]

No, she will be with me always. Home Raven can't survive in the wild, if it was not taught specifically. My bird thinks I'm her "husband" , it'll be hard and scary without me.

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ValeoCrow [2015-05-11 19:10:21 +0000 UTC]

Шикарная фотография! Перышко к перышку, и каждое рассмотреть можно :3

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Vorona-Sasha In reply to ValeoCrow [2015-05-14 11:14:41 +0000 UTC]

Спасибо

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DonNicoVito [2015-05-11 19:05:12 +0000 UTC]

Really good picture.
An Amazing speciemen, congratulations.

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Vorona-Sasha In reply to DonNicoVito [2015-05-14 11:14:49 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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