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heirloom [ˈɛəˌluːm], noun- an object that has been in a family for generations.
I posted this one before, however I felt like it deserved another picture, without any photomanipulation this time.
Waffen-SS regimental ring, circa 1943.
This model, originally designed for the French volunteers of the 33th Waffen Grenadier Division der SS "Charlemagne", it was also used by the two Waffen-SS PzGrenadier Divisions "Langemarck" and "Wallonien.
This ring belonged to my grandfather, Joris D., SS-Untersturmführer, 27-Freiwilliger PzDivision "Langemarck" - Flemish volunteers.
He served from May 1941 to summer 1944.
Military awards:
1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse: 14. February 1943 - Battle of the Tannenberg Line.
Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Bronze: 21. June 1942
Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Schwarz: 25. May 1942
Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42": 22. June 1942
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As I say to all men who participated in that war, I thank him for his service.
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Wow. What an amazing piece of history you have there.
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Thanks. It is indeed something I cherish.
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You're quite welcome. It is a beautiful piece, indeed.
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What an incredible piece of history to have in your possession, take care of it!
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So what happened to him? Did he die during the war or live on to tell the tale. ~ C
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He survived the war and led a long and fruitful life. He was almost 90 y.o. when he died a few years ago.
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That's good to hear. Did he recount any of his campaigns. ~ C
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Yes, at least parts of the whole story. He was rather discreet about his war memories.
If you're interested, here's one of the battles he fought: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_o…
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Checked out the stats. Even thought the Russians won they had horrendous casualties. In all honestly that was the only reason why the Soviet Union was considered badass. They won through just using their own bodies as meat shields and zerg rush tactics. In the end Stalin never cared about his own troops. It pisses me off to no end that ingrates (mostly from western European countries) claim how the Soviet Union was some noble and gallant defender. Bullshit. It only cared about expanding its own borders and I'm sure the people of countries such as Poland and Hungry weren't to thrilled about the 'glories' of communism. Sorry, I'm digressing here. ~ C
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coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!
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also than you, XD would be cool if they sold them in stores I'd be the first to buy them, I love the lightning! after skulls and crosses, are very gothic!
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I'm sure there are thousands of copies in circulation...
I guess the only ways to be sure when it comes to authenticity are either being a very knowledgeable collector or having inherited such a ring from someone who really owned one (family member, acquaintance...)
A third option being that allied soldiers often confiscated rings/medals....from prisoners - or took them from dead men - in order to "bring something back home".
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There are especially from Poland and Belgium, they had or still have originals to copy from, but they are casted, not engraved, it takes seeing a few originals to know the difference. I cant believe that other picture you posted with Galland's personal items in that museum, he must have gave them to them or sold them, he lived to very old age,no one took his stuff thats for sure, very well respected by the Allies, the Russians of course wanted him.
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I've no idea how these artifacts ended up in the Malmédy Museum. Too bad they don't explain how they acquired them.
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thats a guess of mine, when you see that personal picture of him in the case,the daggers are definitely real and medals, I believe he spent a lot of time there...i'll check it out.
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OMG! I have read a lot about Charlemagne Division, they were real heroes!
you must be very proud to have that in your family!
Did you get to meet your grandfather?
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My granddad didn't serve in Charlemagne, but in 27th SS PzDivision Langemarck - Flemish volunteers.
We enjoyed each other's company for about 20 years - sadly he made his way to Valhalla 2 years ago. We were very close and I'm extremely proud of being the granddaughter of such a man.
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Sorry, I miss read. (i do that a lot)
He must have been very proud to have you as a granddaughter too.
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Yes, he was, he wouldn't have given me his ring if he wasn't. And I feel totally humbled by that.
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this really is a wonderful Heirloom, and a lovely story! thanks for sharing it
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You're welcome. More? [link]
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Totally awesome!!! I always loved the Waffen-SS. You must be very proud of your Grandfather!
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I am!Fortunately he survived the war and led a long and fruitful life.
Hate them or love them, Waffen-SS are a fascinating subject, and no-one can deny their elite units were superb soldiers.
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I 100% agree!!! The Waffen-SS were the most superb soldiers in history. I am very glad your Grandfather survived and then lived well!
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This ring is beautiful, both for its shape and for the meaning it has: I'm sure your grandfather is proud of you.
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Yes, he was, and I'm really humbled to think I'm the only one in the family he deemed worthy of inheriting his ring. And I do my utmost to try to deserve that honor every day.
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To embrace your ancestor, you challenged and even refused parts of your education and culture: I'm sure he could understand how hard it is, he probably had to do the same when he decided to wear his uniform and he received this ring.
Your honor's name is loyalty
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Thank you, this goes straight to my heart.
It's not easy to challenge your education and the ones you love. Because I did love my parents, even if they lied to me about my granddad. They wanted to protect me, somehow. I think they were misguided, but I loved them nevertheless.
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I'm glad my words touched you, you deserve them.
It is very important loving our parents, even if we don't think the same and I admire you for still loving them after that sad event, I know people that don't talk to their relatives since years for much less serious things.
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I didn't want history to repeat itself. My parents rejected my granddad because of his opinions, but I didn't want to repeat that scenario. Of course, our relationship became strained for quite some time, but we somehow found some middle ground.
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Nietzsche would be proud of you for preventing the past from repeating itself!
I think some situations keep happening in the same family until someone is strong enough to do what you did, to change, to evolve.
I can only imagine how hard it must have been finding this "common ground" but it makes me happy that you did it.
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très belle bague , je ne savais pas que ton grand père avais fais parti de la division Charlemagne
je crois avoir dévoré tout les mabirre sur le sujet qui me passionne
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En fait non, ce modèle a au départ été dessiné pour la Division Charlemagne, mais l'usage s'en est étendu aux 2 divisions belges, Wallonie (francophone) et Langemarck (flamande). Mon grand-père a servi dans la Langemarck.
Petit secret "honteux" de famille qui aurait dû rester dans un placard, avant que je ne mette le nez dans ce qu'on me cachait et trouve les réponses et la vérité par moi-même...
Si tu veux des analyses historiques objectives, la thèse de Jean-Luc Leleu: Waffen-SS, soldats politiques en guerre, est assez incontournable, même si c'est un gros pavé parfois rébarbatif.
On a souvent reproché à Jean Mabire d'être un peu trop amoureux de son sujet que pour être vraiment objectif.
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effectivement c'est pas faux mais en dehors même du politique l'ambiance et la réalité sont bien retransmise pour Mabire en tout cas .
il y a malheureusement dans notre pays un devoir de mémoire a faire ,pas toujours forcement celui que l'on croit
je m'explique ""c'est surtout pour ceux qui lirons nos échanges xd""
la deuxième guerre mondiale c'est pas star wars ,il y a pas les méchants et les gentils de l'autre coté ""quand je pense qu'il y a encore des couillons pour croire ça ""
il faut se replacer dans le contexte de l’époque ,les informations que des jeunes gens pouvaient avoir a cette époque, ainsi que le contexte politique et historique
des salauds il y en a eu partout et des héros aussi
tous les ss ne furent pas des assassins et tous les résistants ne furent pas des héros
c'est comme ça
et puis l’hypocrisie de ne pas dire que bien des cadres politique ,fonctionnaire ou de l'armée par la suite avaient été du coté de Pétain et avaient continué a travailler dans leur domaines ""dans tout les pays européens et je pense au ps en France xd"" me fais marrer
je ne fais pas de politique mais je sais reconnaitre le courage et la notion de sacrifice quel que soit le camps
un soldat reste un soldat
il faut savoir apprécier et juger ce qui peut ou doit l’être a sa juste valeur
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Paroles de sagesse auxquelles je n'ai pas grand chose à ajouter. Mais la plupart des gens préfèrent raisonner en blanc/noir, gentils/méchants, c'est tellement plus simple que de réfléchir et remettre les choses en question, avoir un esprit indépendant et critique.
Bravo donc pour ton recul et ta clairvoyance...
(Eh oui, il y a effectivement certains dignitaires dy PS (parfois très haut placés 
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si il y avait que ca
pseudo maquisard ou ffi ""qui travaillèrent pour la Gestapo avant""qui pillèrent allégrement les gens usant de tortures ou de pressions diverses des le départ des allemands
j'ai recueilli pas mal de témoignages ces dernières années plus édifiants les uns que les autres .
quel que soit le camps cette période permis a certains de se lâcher de façon éhontée
il y avait un dicton ""qui n'est pas applicable a tous mais a pas mal de gens quand même ""
qui disait de 39 a 43 tous Pétainiste et 43 a 45 tous Gaulliste xd
c'est surement vrais
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Eh oui, il y a beaucoup plus de gens qui retournent leur veste en fonction d'où vient le vent que de véritable héros.
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The form looks really great, keep your heirloom safe!
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It has been given to me, and I will keep it safe. It is my link to part of my family history, whether people like it or not.
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Save it, there´re so many people that destroyed these artifacts....
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I know that. My mother would have thrown it to the trash if she had a chance.
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Thank you. I'm proud to be the flesh and blood of such a man.
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Heil SS-Untersturmführer Joris!
On another note: [link]
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