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"Why do you Artists always get so pissed off when someone uses your artwork? You should take it as a compliment."
"You should take it as a Compliment."

A compliment would be admiring an artist's work where they post it. If you want to use it that badly, complimenting them would be you have enough respect for them to ask first. Most of us don't get mad because you use it, it's because you use it without asking or pretend you didn't know who or where it came from. When there is a URL address to where you can find the original artist on the image. Taking someone's car to crash it in a derby isn't a compliment to them any more than taking someone's art to wreck it or claim it is a compliment. More so without asking.


"What about realism artists? They copy from photographs all the time, no originality there, but you don't yell at them for copying photos! What makes someone copying or tracing another artist's work so different?"


First. -- When somebody is referencing a photo, they look at the pure material. When you do this, you usually look at something and enough to where it's correct and recognizable. Plagiarizing someone's art isn't the same as referencing by using photography. Copying? Yes, to a degree, but there is a hook. -- Copying a stock photo to ensure decent anatomy differs from taking someone's illustration and copying or sketching for anatomical practice. You don't learn anything if their sense of anatomy is wrong. Photographies are someone’s property, but if they put it as stocks, or as reference material, they offer it for a free license and use by others. They took the image with their camera, but they forgo complete ownership in a way.

Second. -- Copying a photograph for correct parts hardly delivers an image “not creative or original.” Creativity doesn't come from the references used; it arrives from the artistic ability to use them in a creative and inventive fashion. Copying or referencing a photograph dictates whether the result is either believable or proportioned.

"If you didn't want it stolen, don't post it online."


If I got money for every time I've heard this, I'd have a Ferrari by now. Look, just because it's there doesn't mean it's free to take, more so if it's got someone's name on it. Example: I parked my automobile on the street does it mean someone can just hop in and take it for a spin? No, because I'm the owner of it, not you. -- "It was just sitting there; your name isn't on it!"
"Online ≠ Mine."

A store putting a plate of cookies out on the counter doesn't make them free unless they say "free cookies!" Even then, you are better off asking in case if those cookies aren't free. Artists shouldn't have to worry about their stuff getting ganked because people can't keep their hands to themselves online. It's called common sense. Use it! If you didn't make it or ask for it and get the "okay," it's not yours.

"I'm just using your character's likeness -- it's not like I'm claiming I drew it or created it!"


And you aren't able to create your characters? I mean, you can write out everything about them so why not write out a description as well? I can't speak for other artists on this one, but creating a character is hard work enough, let alone drawing it out to the specs you want. Many of friends of mine that I know spend hours or even days, weeks, months, trying to come up with decent characters and they put much heart and soul into them. To you, they may just be the coolest drawings, but to those who created them are part of their soul. I think several people know that if you see someone with 20 different art styles in their list of characters chances are they didn't draw them. So it's not that people are claiming they drew them (not all the time anyway). -- It's again, using our IP for your RP without asking or respecting our rights and terms as the original creator.

You cannot copyright ideas or even colors, markings, poses, and personality traits. But, images are something an Artist CAN copyright. If you want to have a blue and an orange wolf character that acts like Optimus Prime, fine. You can do that, but you can't take someone's wolf version of Optimus Prime and use it as a biopic for your character without asking. Catch my drift? Write out a bio to describe your character; it works as well if you're a good writer. -- And if you're that hard up for a visual, ask or pay the illustrator to illustrate it for you. Then your character will be made up of specs you want instead of having to steal and wreck it to get something close.

As you can see, we are not insane, impossible or complicated. We love our work, and we'd love you to enjoy our work as well. If you respect an artist, respect their rights and terms. Case dismiss!



My turn!

What about drawing characters in the same pose? You don't yell when people do that. Doesn't that count as plagiarism?


No, it doesn't. Drawing a cartoon character in the same pose doesn't count as plagiarism. You cannot copyright poses. If you could, then nobody must stand because someone else could own any standing pose. You would have to ask permission with every damn movement and pose you use in everyday life. Does that sound fun?  Or, do you want to ask permission if you can occupy a certain way on the toilet, to make sure that someone doesn't own the way you sit on the toilet? Imagine asking permission for every single move you make. You must create a pose by yourself; otherwise, you are risking to end sued because you stole the pose. Does that sound fun to you?

People these days need to grow a thicker skin, the funniest part is how they pull an excuse it's plagiarism, you must be original when there is no originality at all. Honestly, even drawing a dog is unoriginal. You didn't invent dogs; it's fan art of nature. You drew the house; you copied, you drew a wolf; you copied. You draw trees, background, buildings, highways, cars, people, hands, kids you already copied them. Even if you drew a man who sits down in the seat with crossed fingers, you already copied; because someone already sits in the similar pose, you drew it. There is no such thing as originality; people should stop bitching about this and mind their own business.

1. Copying isn't always wrong. It's how most people learn to draw when they are kids. I've been drawing since I was six years old and I started out by tracing/copying. Moreover, it's still done in some professions for various reasons; animators have to copy the head artist's work for a show or have to practice drawing in a show's style by copying every detail from the original. The head animator for my group's film had me practice copying other character designs that way to warm me up for our film's style.

2. As long as they aren't clicking "Save As" on the original work and reposting it as their own, and they give credit back to the original artist that they referenced from, it's alright to copy another artist's work in order to learn from it. That's considered "Fair Use. " World-Hero21

As for "stealing A POSE fiasco" that statement is so fucking wrong! The world is not black, and white and accusing someone of something because they caved in is a terrible and invalid argument!

Just because you found something on the Internet that doesn't mean it's free. Have you ever saw a tiny text where it says this image might fall under the copyright protection?


Copyright applies to everything, from music to cool pictures that you come across, yes; you can "pirate" stuff as much as you wish. But you cannot post them, and say how you made them when you didn't put a single effort into creating them. All you did was bang your signature on the original one. I was a victim of art robbery once; myfev stole my stamp and turned into a horrible meme. Not only what he did counts as copyright infringement, but it also counts as harassment, because he posted my username on his meme and turned his opinion into a "personal hall of shame." Posting something that is not your property creates a copyright infringement. In other words: What you post here is protected by YOU. If someone else created the text you post, you already changed copyright. If you didn't get permission from the creator of the work you want to post, then don't post it! It doesn't fall under the category “Fair Use.”

There's a button called "Favorites" on every deviation page you visit, use THAT to add stuff you like to your collection because that's why it's there.
I don't know how many times I heard these ridiculous excuses:

But I'm posting it in my gallery because I like it, I don't steal it if I repost it.

I'm sharing it to show others, in that way I'm making the original artist more famous.

My English is not the first language so I don't understand the rules.

And the list goes on...

No, you don't, you are making a fool of yourself when you do that. If you want to make an artist famous, here's a better idea:

1. Feature his deviations in your journals with a title "featured art of the day, week or months."
2. Make a fan art of his character that you adore, mention him or send him a fan art via Note. You can make a support stamp by including his official character.
3. Suggest volunteers to him give a Daily Deviation, in this way he will become more noticeable.
4. Suggest popular Groups to feature his illustrations in their journal so Artists can gain more attention and fame.
5. Tell Director of CEA Community what an artist did for the community, suggest him to give him deviousness award. Who knows? Maybe the Director of CEA Community will like what the Artist did and announce him as a senior member of the months. To see how to get a deviousness award, read this

Some people have received Seniority because of their artistic endeavor, having a positive influence on their peers by sharing resources, providing constructive criticism and by being a voice that stands out above the many others who deviate to be recognized in the crowd.

There are plenty of volunteers who to will listen to your suggestion of which art deserves a Daily Deviation. In this way, you will make the artist more famous and recognizable. Not to mention that in this way you will show how you respect his work and his efforts. Stop being so immature; you are not gaining anything when you take something that is not your property. There is no excuse for any of it. Thievery is still thievery, no matter what horseshit you concoct to get your rear off the hot seat.

"Mental illness." Get treated for it; that doesn't make you innocent.
"Someone else posted to your account." All right, take down the picture and quit arguing if you are "innocent."
"Found it on another site." Whoopie doo for you that doesn't mean you made it; take it down if you don't want to be branded as a criminal among every art website on the net.
"Crediting the artist, but posting without permission." IT'S STILL COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!

Do you want to use something for reference to improve your art? Awesome! Show that fact in your comments, without stealing an image. Make sure to link back to the gallery, credit them, and if you are going to post it, ask permission from the original artist to post your remake.

ART THIEVES WILL BE CAUGHT. They will be responsible for everything they did to us! Artists and art enthusiasts will never trust them. They will ruin their chances of developing real connections and relationships with artists who may be able to help them improve and become the artists they admire enough to "steal" from us. They burn their bridges before they even get the chance.

Copyright infringement is a financial gain, making commercial works available to the public. Disguise with intent to violate, providing false copyright, delivery or import for spreading false copyright information, removal or change of copyrights. Not only it's another form of plagiarism; it's a civil injury in the United States. Where a claim can be raised if “Fair Use” cannot be proven. Posting someone's illustration that you have previously changed in a digital illustration program such as Photoshop, Paint tool SAI doesn't qualify as “Fair Use” in your gallery. If you post something that somebody else made, they already created copyright for their work.

When you create an account, you agree to obey the terms of service and privacy policy. If you believe you have rights to post whatever you found on the Internet, then this site is NOT a place for you. Deactivate yourself and go back to the cave where you belong. People like you are NOT welcome here. Better yet, go to Facebook and post garbage you stole there. Facebook doesn't care about copyright issues, to be honest.

That is nagging, goodbye.


nagging
ˈnaɡɪŋ/Submit
adjective
1.
(of a person) constantly harassing someone to do something.
"a nagging person"
2.
persistently painful or worrying.
"a nagging pain"

Nagging, in interpersonal communication, is repetitive behavior in the form of pestering, hectoring continuously urging an individual to complete previously discussed requests or act on advice. A form of persistent persuasion that is more repetitive rather than aggressive. According to the Wall Street Journal, nagging is "the interaction in which one person repeatedly makes a request, the other person repeatedly ignores it and both become increasingly annoyed". Thus, nagging is an interaction to which each party contributes.

According to Kari P. Soule, "That Interpersonal ritual is nagging. Yet, the term nagging seldom appears in interpersonal communication or conflict textbooks. It appears that "nagging" is commonly used in everyday conversation but it rarely makes it to academic print"

The word is derived from the Scandinavian nagga, which means, "to gnaw."

Nagging by spouses is a frequent marital complaint. Psychotherapists such as Edward S. Dean have reported that individuals who nag are often "weak, insecure, and fearful ... their nagging disguises a basic feeling of weakness and provides an illusion of power and superiority". Nagging is sometimes used by spouses of alcoholics as one of several "drinking control efforts", but it is often unproductive. Psychologically, nagging can act to reinforce a behavior. A study by the University of Florida found the main causes that lead a person to nag are differences in "gender, social distance, and social status and power". Nagging has been found to attribute to being more of a feminine form of interpersonal communication rather than powerful. Nagging is often seen as at repetitive form of persuasion rather resorting to more aggressive persuasion tactics in order to gain compliance. Which did Kari P. Soule (Ph. D., Communication Studies) find in a study--Northwestern University of 63 females, 40 males aged 19, and one of 202 people aged 24 to 84-49? An equal number of men and women nag; however, studies have shown that women are more likely to nag both men and women while men are more likely to nag only men. Meaning women nag all people, which can be attributed to the reasons women are stereotyped as nagging people all the time.

Nagging can be found among both male and female spouses, though usually over different subjects, according to a Good Housekeeping article which described husbands' nagging as usually involving finding "fault with their dinner, with the household bills [and] with the children", with "carrying home the worries of business." It has been found that behavioral noncompliance is more common among spouses. Behavioral noncompliance referrers to when a person who is being nagged remains silent while being nagged or who agrees to complete the question, but later does not follow through. This is tactics to end the confrontation or quickly without conflict, which is why its common among spouses or partners. As the nagging that starts out in a calm and polite manner, which continues, and persuade becomes more repetitious, the interaction is more likely to become aggressive in nature. The persuasive target could also respond in a more direct fashion through the tactics of verbal noncompliance. Verbal non compliance refers to when the persuasive target telling a persuader through the word that they will not comply. An example of verbal noncompliance could be a simple no, or I am too busy right now more even more elaborate response. This strategy does end the nagging interaction more rapidly; however, it can cause a more aggressive response from the persuader who may alter persistent persuasion to threats or another aggressive form of persuasion.

Parental and child nagging.
In terms of parental nagging of children, a study at Washington State University in 1959 stated that this nagging was a "symptom of the rejection of the child" because of the way that children interfere with the parents' "individual needs and aspirations" with their requirements of "time and energy". According to James U. McNeal in his 1992 book Kids as Customers, there are seven classifications of juvenile nagging, wherein children nag their parents to obtain something they desire.

The interpersonal interaction.
Nagging as a form of interpersonal communication is considered to be a form of persistent persuasion that requires a persuader and a persuasive target. The interaction can be broken down into a 4-step interaction process according to Martin A Kozloff A researcher who has identified in his work the four main steps of the nagging. The 4 steps in the interaction are as follows:

Nagger gives a signal to perform or stop performing a task or behavior.
Naggee does not comply to request from the nagger.
In response, the nagger repeats their request or signal in a further effort to gain compliance.
The Naggee again responds with non-compliance.

Karloff argues that this interaction cycle continues until the Naggee complies with the Nagger’s request or the nagger gives up the attempt to persuade the Naggee. Kozloff also identifies other important aspects of the persistent persuasion such as non-compliance is necessary for the persuader to be persistent and the persuader will often change the initial requests words and Paralinguistic cues as a strategic tactic. This will hopefully entice the persuasive target into complying with the request. Nagging a very common form of persuasion which is used in all aspects of life whether domestic, professional it is common practice in order to avoid more aggressive persuasive tactics like threats. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagging )

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You're bullying Me!


Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidates, or aggressively dominates others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power, which distinguishes bullying from conflict. Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts might direct repeatedly towards particular targets. Rationalizations for such behavior sometimes include differences of social class, race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, appearance, behavior, body language, personality, reputation, lineage, strength, size or ability. If a group does the bullying, it's called mobbing.

Learn the difference between bullying and enforcing you the rules of this site. Saying that it's like you are saying, enforcing you the rules or expressed opinion = hate speech, which it doesn't make any sense. The further forms of bullying and harassing someone on the Internet, Email address, or SMS mobile you can view it here.

Quit trolling Me!


“Trolling describes actions meant to cause anger or annoyance of others. In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows quarrel on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, external, or off-topic messages in an online community. (Like a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog). With the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or by disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often in the troll's amusement, bullying is a form of intimidation, if a group does the bullying; then it's called mobbing.” (For the record, I do know trolling doesn't equal bullying, all right?) It can when someone doesn't recognize the difference, but it doesn't always. Trolling is not when somebody is:

Trying to help you;
Critiquing your art;
Expressing an opinion;
Telling you to respect the rules;
Having different thoughts about something that you like or hate.

But I Google it, Google is a free art site, I can find there whatever I want.

Google is an American multinational technology company specializing in Internet-related services and products that include online advertising technologies, search, cloud computing, and software. Most of its profits are derived from Adwords, an online advertising service that places advertising near the list of search results. Larry Page and Sergey Brin founded Google while they were Ph.D. students at Stanford University, California. Together, they own about 14 percent of its shares and control 56 percent of the stockholder voting power through super-voting stock. They incorporated Google as a privately held company on September 4, 1998. An initial public offering (IPO) took place on August 19, 2004, and Google moved to its new headquarters in Mountain View, California, nicknamed the Googleplex. Google has nothing to do with art. It's only meant to serve as a search engine to help you to find what you are looking for.

In school, tracing is a fundamental taught to beginner artist and it helps them form their style and does encourage creativity!


Tracing is NOT a basic illustration technique; it's only useful for cleaning rough drafts (which is the only acceptable use of copying within an art school). Tracing doesn't help young artists develop their style. All you do is follow the line that illustrators sketched in their style. The truth is; there is a rich history of copying others' illustrations, but what did they get? Have they improved their drawing skills in this way? No. Practice is the perfect way to learn the right anatomy.

Juvenile Artists don't need to worry about style. In art school, tutors aren't addressing an art style until toward the end of your junior year and through your senior year, which is when you receive guidance in “finding” your style. A style is something that develops after the basics or “reality” mastered to blend this reality convincing without breaking it. Thus forming a new reality with its own set of rules that it has learned when bent reality to the point of breaking that is what they call “crappy anatomy that makes no sense.”

Plagiarism only hinders creativity, because those who do this have never learned how to sketch the works themselves and be creative, they must have some guidelines to sketch something. It doesn't teach you to expand beyond what you are tracing; it becomes a crutch for many young Artists because of that.

Tracing teaches you nothing but how to follow a line that is in front of your pencil to recreate it, which is why it's only useful for teaching preschoolers how to write. That's why tutors encourage eyeball copying in the teen years rather than tracing because that is what still life drawing is at its source: review copying what's set up in front of you.

Eyeball copying allows the artist to research the shape, part, and distance of the picture they are watching to reproduce them on paper in their style. It teaches you composition, shape, parts, negative space, anatomy, and how to “see” as an illustrator to transfer what you see through your hand on the paper.

The estimating method in an art school tutor calls “master copying,” and usually students do this in the painting class. The student chooses a picture of the expert and sketches him to his best ability. By reproducing him, he explores the methods expert used in the original creation of the work. Through the research and reconstruction of these methods, the student learns these methods. If you copy the work of another artist in an art school, there is a risk of throwing you out of school because of plagiarism. Even an eyeball copying from another Artist's work will expel you if it's not a reproduction exercise.

When children try to learn how to draw by copying, everything they do is hindering their development and illustration techniques, putting them behind the usual “curve” of artistic development for their age group. So, this is something, children, shouldn't learn in classes of art education in elementary school. ''But, I can't draw'' is a shitty excuse to break the rules! If you want to learn how to illustrate and to praise your skills, use anatomical books for that, you can find good anatomical tutorials to improve your skills and become a better Artist than before. Better, that, than risking to the Artist sues you for violating copyright. Trust me it's better.

That's why many successful illustrators are against plagiarists, the Artist allows to people plagiarize their art. But they don't allow someone shows it and claim as own because it counts as copyright infringement.

See also:

How To Report a Violation?
Copyright Infringement!
International Copyright Law! Copyright Infringement! NET (No Electronic Theft) Act! DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act!) Copyright Term Extension Act! Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act! Fair Use! More info on Fair Use! Exclusive Rights! dAmn-Army Blog: US Law and dA Policy! Cyberbullies, what are they and how to avoid them?
deviantART education TOS VIOLATION!
How can I add watermark on to protect my art from thieves?
CEA Blog: How to Submit an Abuse Report!
Artwork Storage and Protection!
Protection from Art Theft!
Improved DMCA Reporting System!
Spamdexing, what to do about that?
What is copyright?
Protecting Your Work!
How to report an art theft on dA?
We're looking at you, art thieves. We're trying to HELP YOU! Not harass you by telling you to obey the rules!

Your crying or the little drama that you created doesn't belong here. If you cannot face the truth of what we said, then you are the one who is a problem here. If somebody caught you for, posting porn, stolen art and you get a warning from Administrators then it's your fault! You remain zero rights to cry to Administrators by telling them how a porn tutorial or a video game meant for adults that you made is not a porn material! They have better things to do than dealing with your hysteria.

1. Proving our points is not a form of bullying;
2. Explaining to you that stealing people’s original art with watermarks on is not bullying;
3. Treating you like a child is not bullying;
4. Using insults is not bullying;
5. Trying to explain you something is not bullying!

1. If you make a drama journal;
2. Targeting members in it;
3. Using your watchers who follow you to attack someone without any evidence;
4. Buying members by posting stolen art with a message "I made this it's mine." In a belief, you will buy them on that way so they can be on your side when you order them to attack someone for not kissing your butt or accusing you of being a thief [which, is true] in a form of CYBERBULLY!!!

Then we deserve to call you out whenever you are 15 or 40!

When you make a profile on a social network, whether Twitter, Instagram, Google+, YouTube, DeviantArt, you agree to comply with the laws of the United States. If you violate the rules multiple times, there is a risk that Companies and Artists may sue you through the United States Government, regardless of which Country you are.
Do not post the material you didn't create. In this way, you take someone's talent, steal their credit and copyright by pretending to be the Author of these illustrations. Design the work by yourself by taking a pen and paper. It will take time to become a professional illustrator, the only thing you will need is a lot of practice, patience, and effort.

If you want to use someone's work:
1. Find a way to contact an Artist. Email, Deviant Art page, IM.
2. Ask politely if you can use their work by addressing them to which deviation what you want to use and what you plan to use it for.
3. Ask for their written permission, to prove you could use it.
4. Provide the evidence of the original permission from an Artist, and give them credit for the work, even addressed back to the original work.

The Copyright Law of the United States tries to encourage creating art and culture by rewarding Authors and Artists with a set of exclusive rights. Copyright law grants Authors and Artists the exclusive right to make and sell copies of their works, the right to create derivative works. Including rights to perform or display their works publicly. These exclusive rights are subject to a time limit and expire 70 years after the Author's death.

The Copyright Act of 1976 governs United States copyright law. The United States Constitution exactly grants Congress the power to create copyright law under Article 1, Section 8, and Clause 8, known as the Copyright Clause. Under the Copyright Clause, Congress has the power:

  • To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
  • The United States Copyright Office handles copyright registration, recording of copyright transfers, and other Administration of copyright law.

  • In other words: Create an art by yourself, ask for a written permission before you use someone's art or material and respect copyrights.

    If you want to use illustrations, you have to ask the Author who illustrated them! The Author reserves the right to write whatever terms and conditions he wishes. Including refusing your request to use his illustrations! Case closed!

    Author's NOTE: Yes, this is free to use.

    It's easier to address people to this piece, instead of copying and pasting the entire Journal into their pages. Go for it! There is no need to ask.

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    Mingling93 [2021-01-26 00:26:46 +0000 UTC]

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    alexander1301 [2018-10-25 22:27:09 +0000 UTC]

    I Feel Like I Want To Beat Up Those Art Thieves, Am I Right?

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    TwilightSpringlock [2018-10-14 21:28:46 +0000 UTC]

    When someone pisses me off just as much as as anyone can so I started using watermarks. I still have doubts on DA trying to do anything against art theft...

    Reason why is that I had art theft 4 times by the same idiot and it was just because I told him no to making him a paper-craft in one of my OC's versions... I mean, just accept it and leave instead of raging like a 10 year old.

     

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    Burksaurus [2017-09-24 01:18:44 +0000 UTC]

    I agree with this. It really annoys me when I look at people's galleries on Deviantart and their deviations are really pictures that can be found on other websites like Pixiv when they didn't draw or painted the artwork. I even see the copyright symbol on these pictures. There are Deviants on Deviantart who posts art that doesn't belong to them like ContableEnorme and  drewhammond  that seem don't seem to realize they are stealing someone's artwork.

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    Toxic-Bonbons [2017-08-13 14:23:12 +0000 UTC]

    this is fabulous 

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    Amari-Strawberry93 [2017-06-10 19:48:03 +0000 UTC]

    this is one of why autism has a bad name, because it's been abused so much... I have autism but that don't give me the right to use it for every problem in the book just to use it as an excuse and it takes balls to accept your mistakes and move on or deal with it...

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    AGiLE-EaGLE1994 [2017-04-11 01:59:47 +0000 UTC]

    Autism is something you could blame social or emotional misunderstandings or mistakes on, but what you CANNOT blame it on...
    ... Is just not giving a flying shit about reading the goddamn rules.
    I HAVE Autism, I should know!
    As an ACTUAL autistic person, it is highly insulting to me for someone to use it as an excuse for doing something they know is wrong.
    Now if you made a mistake or had a misunderstanding or couldn't read someone's queues that you were annoying them and they snapped at you, then I completely understand, because that's happened to ME TOO!
    But if you know something is wrong and do it anyway, then using autism as a reason for it, even if you actually ARE autistic, just makes you look like a fucking asshole.

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    Saucy-Art [2017-04-09 14:58:10 +0000 UTC]

    "I'm 11/12-"

    That's not even a reason, can't you read? Yes? THEN ACTUALLY READ THE DAMN RULES.

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    DeathExploderIII [2016-11-28 23:35:43 +0000 UTC]

    "My English is not the first language so I don't understand the rules of dA! Ask someone to translate it for you." I'm pretty sure that this site already has the rules in multilingual versions :/ If not, then they need to.  

    I just have one question, what about the dumb thieves who only steal and post other's art to become popular on here, the leechers ? 

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    EnforcerWolf [2016-11-21 17:09:27 +0000 UTC]

    Excellent post, and well needed.

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    ChikitaWolf [2016-05-30 22:52:16 +0000 UTC]

    It's always fun when an art thief tries to pull the mental illness card on someone who actually has that mental illness. Bitch try again. 

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    09Mundane In reply to ChikitaWolf [2016-10-17 18:44:47 +0000 UTC]

    I agree ,its selfish and completely insulting

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    mzza-art [2016-03-25 14:27:34 +0000 UTC]

    "I have autism!!!" makes me want to print out all their 329793826 stolen pictures, roll them up and smack them over the head with it.
    It's fucking STUPID. Especially when people use it against ME.
    Makes me both angry and laugh my ass off, because I have autism as well.


    People should realize that, if your mental health issues are so bad, you shouldn't fucking be on the internet.

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    Blackestfang [2016-02-05 15:44:04 +0000 UTC]

    I have heard that bull shit "I found it on google" so many fucking times. Love this

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    SteelDollS [2015-12-28 01:12:17 +0000 UTC]

    This is a long rant, but I both hear you and slightly disagree with you at the same time on a few points. Mainly, if someone edits your art in a transformative manner, it can't rightly be called stealing. It can be called fair use, though. Unless they're claiming that they created the original work. Then it'd be plagiarism. Which is punishable by law, and a serious offense.

    I do agree with the fact of "if you didn't want it 'stolen', don't put it on the internet" is a weak argument for 'theft', but the counter-argument is that if you don't want it saved by others (and reposted elsewhere or edited) then you should, as an artist, consider the format of hosting you want to use for your art. Choosing to put it up on your twitter feed, on DA, or any site that doesn't give you the option to disallow direct downloading of the file is the artist's responsibility. Yes, those sites give a greater exposure to a larger community/audience to admire your work. But the price is that people are going to (assuming your art is worth their time) want to have a copy for themselves. Saving a copy isn't actually theft. Reposting a copy isn't actually theft. Theft implies taking someone from someone, which they then do not have anymore.

    I think the moral of the story is that I disagree with some of the terms you've used because their definitions do not mean what you think they mean.

    An alternative option might be to make a lower-quality image of your art available as a preview on free sites like this one, but indicate that the larger image with best quality is only purchasable. If someone actually has to pay for it, they'll take care, and really will own it, after that.

    Some of my $0.02 in a nutshell, I guess.

    Though if I saw someone using any of my art on a public forum, I'd squeal like a little pigtailed girl on a pixie-stix high for like an hour and consider it a serious compliment. ...I guess everyone has a different opinion.

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    Space-between-spaces In reply to SteelDollS [2018-02-13 17:40:54 +0000 UTC]

    Unless we are talking about stock material then you are completely wrong about the first part.

    DeviantArt does give you the option to disallow downloading, whether you use it is another thing entirely.

    I think everyone interprets them differently.

    They could upload what they paid for else where just like almost all forms of art that people pay for and download.

    There was once a skilled photo manipulator here on this website, his account got banned for what exact reason I'm not sure but before that point he uploaded a picture featuring some well known 3D artist's characters featured as snowflake nazis because to put it simply those snowflakes were acting like nazis. I believe multiple people reported him as being a troll, creating hate art, and so on & so forth. He only used the heads of these 3D characters but the image still was removed. I saved the picture before it was taken down. Nowadays, if you say or do anything the original artist doesn't approve of with their work, then you will be reported.

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    SteelDollS In reply to Space-between-spaces [2018-03-06 06:09:15 +0000 UTC]

    Anyone can report, regardless of how law works to protect artists, including those who create derivative works.

    I agree that people interpret things to suit themselves, but frequently those interpretations are completely inaccurate. Original artists do have rights. But their rights do not remove the rights of others' freedoms, when it comes to fair use.

    Well, considering that publicly calling out specific people by labelling them as nazis sounds like textbook cyber bullying... it's not the same thing as creative freedoms. There is no such thing as fair use for abusive content. Cyber bullying intended to injure targeted people should by its nature not belong on DA.

    Bullying was likely the problem and why it was removed.

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    Space-between-spaces In reply to SteelDollS [2018-03-06 14:31:38 +0000 UTC]

    So? Even if anyone can report which I wont disagree with that part that doesn't validate your point. You compared copyright infringement to plagiarism which tells me you don't know the difference or you do know the difference and said something hilariously stupid anyway. No offense intended. They aren't the same but they work in a similar matter. Copyright infringement is sort of like plagiarism for pictures which when you upload someone else's work you are committing.

    Actually when someone uses or edits an original work the original artist can file a copyright violation report or a DMCA notice against that work. Basically the website owner and by extension the infringing artist have to remove the copyright violation or can risk being sued for millions of dollars. It's happened before. The question here becomes where does the original artist's rights end and the other artist's rights begin. Well if the new artist is using the original works of other people then the new artist has no rights on the copyright side of it unless they have the permission of the original artist, ideally in written form.

    Freedom of speech, freedom of expression. You don't have to agree with someone else when they call you a Nazi but by removing a picture that depicts that you would be violating their first amendment right. I could depict you as a friendly rainbow farting Russian unicorn but if it upset you, you could label it as a cyberbullying. I'll use another example, the picture that was removed depicted those character's as nazis but I drew a picture as a commission that depicted them getting murdered. Which is worse? Fun fact my picture can't and won't be removed due to the fact that I don't mention anyone by name.

    Let me summarize this, the first amendment means nothing on a private platform such as deviantArt. Just like you can't yell obscenities in public even though free speech exists.

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    SteelDollS In reply to Space-between-spaces [2018-03-06 17:20:15 +0000 UTC]

    Copyright infringement and plagiarism are different things. If they are compared, it's to illustrate the differences. A trip to a dictionary might assist, to any person not understanding the definitions of those words.

    You are insisting I have a different view than I do, and arguing based on that belief, but as you are debating against things I am not saying, I can't reply to your disagreement. On to things I can actually respond to:

    On the topic of freedom of speech: while a protected right, such rights to speak are not, as you say, "removed" merely due to being on an internet forum. It's an interesting line of study to look up the inclusions between freedom of speech and freedom of offensive speech, and the differences between freedom of speech and verbal abuse.

    On the other hand, DA does reserve the right to remove any deviation, and you have to agree to that when you receive an account. Technically, they don't need to defend their decisions. Sometimes things like that even happen by accident. No deviation is immortal. That's a different topic than either free speech or bullying, though. So on that point- that DA can remove what they want for whatever cause- I agree with what sounds like your stance.

    You can indeed yell obscenities in public. I have observed it happen many times.

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    Space-between-spaces In reply to SteelDollS [2018-03-06 17:39:36 +0000 UTC]

    I'll wait for you to find a Dictionary.

    I get the feeling I'm talking to an average high school student. If you understood my argument against you then of course you could provide a counter for it but it seems you don't.

    So basically what you're saying (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken) is that freedom of speech to uploaded an edited version of someone else's artwork is okay but if they start criticizing you then it's offensive or verbal abuse? Sounds like "It's good so long as it works in my favour."

    Freedom of speech is guaranteed in real life but here on dA it is not, case point point, the terms you've just mentioned which kinda guts your entire argument.

    So have I, right before the guy was arrested.

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    floating-dust In reply to SteelDollS [2016-03-04 15:04:31 +0000 UTC]

    I totally agree with you on that.

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    IvanKazuko [2015-12-01 21:16:42 +0000 UTC]

     

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    Peacelover2 [2015-10-06 20:18:15 +0000 UTC]

    I want to hug you for this this is really amazing Thank you thank thank you

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    AyaChan993 [2015-08-31 00:33:31 +0000 UTC]


    This is amazing. And really, things are very simple or can be here when it comes to uploading art. People just tend to make it hard.
    AND THE FACT THAT I READ THROUGH THIS AND IT HAD GIFS MAKES THIS EVEN BETTER.
    Most of those reaction gifs are my reactions to most of the excuses art thieves tend to make, too. XDDD

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    llalalsoososooaa [2015-08-30 22:23:12 +0000 UTC]

    "But I'm only thirteen!"

    I don't really think this is a good excuse for art theft. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you turn ten years old aren't you responsible for your own actions? Like, if you stole something in real life you'd get a fine or go to juvi or something (idk I've never stolen anything so I'm not really sure) and if the person went to court "but I'm only thirteen!" Wouldn't be accepted as a statement showing your innocent because by that age you are old enough to understand 'right and wrong'

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    moonbeani [2015-08-29 10:57:49 +0000 UTC]

     

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    Comraxe [2015-08-27 00:34:33 +0000 UTC]

    What do you guys think about copycats who use people's artwork as a "blueprint"? 

    I'm gonna use that blue and orange wolf character that acts like Optimus Prime:

    Let's say you created a blue and orange wolf character that act like optimus prime.
    Someone else decided they like the idea and also created a blue and orange character that acts like optimus prime.
    Not only did they use the same idea, they also used the same pose and the same type of background, although it wasn't the exact same.
    The artist gets pissed off at the copycat but the only problem is, the copycat did not steal the actual art, they only stole the ideas.
    Would this sorta count as art thievery? 

    On a side note, this is a great article. I just cannot believe how thick some people can be! It is incredible. In what world is art thievery a compliment?! And did they really think people would believe the classic "mom" excuse?

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    DarwinsDomain [2015-08-22 13:32:03 +0000 UTC]

    I would like to add one small tidbit, because I've seen it happen.  If you ask an artist for permission to use their work in another place and they say NO.... respect that.  Some artists are not comfortable with their IP out of their control *say for an RP*, and it is their right as the IP holder to say no.

    Don't go "Well you're a bitch and I'm going to use it anyway."

    Just asking for permission doesn't make it right either!

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    kiitenclaws [2015-08-22 03:27:05 +0000 UTC]

    Ok, sorry if this was in the journal I didn't have the patience to read all that... I mate it because

    STEALING DEVIANTART ART IS ILLEGAL!

    I mean, come on! It's barely different than sneaking into a museum at night, stealing a painting and getting arrested! Also, if you steal something copyrighted (of which there IS a copyrighted sign next to EVERY SINGLE ART PIECE OR JOURNAL) it's illegal! I don't understand just because you're on the internet crimes there don't seem as serious. 

    yawn... ugh its late, ask me if you want to continue this comment in the morning.. Zzzzzz

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    DUSKvsDAWN [2015-08-21 01:16:58 +0000 UTC]

    I dont like it when I put alot of work into something and people just use it and take it for granted. People use my icons without giving credit all the damn time. I hunt them down as much as I can, but it's almost helpless.

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    HanaKouhai [2015-08-20 22:54:06 +0000 UTC]

    (claps) +1 Favorite. Could I perhaps link it in a journal?

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    HanaKouhai In reply to HanaKouhai [2016-02-17 00:58:57 +0000 UTC]

    Oh wait... no need to ask, as long as proper credit is given.
    Hm... I forgot why I wanted to link it in a journal.

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    PantherPL [2015-08-20 19:36:28 +0000 UTC]

    A bit long on mobile, but I enjoyed it nevertheless.

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    VidyTheFox [2015-08-20 18:36:38 +0000 UTC]

    You.
    You have just won the Internet.
    If not, then at least DeviantArt.

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    xXSword-ChanXx [2015-08-20 17:23:17 +0000 UTC]

    *claps* wooohooooo!!!!! Best speech ever!!! Oncore!!!

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    HanaKouhai In reply to xXSword-ChanXx [2015-08-20 22:23:18 +0000 UTC]

    *Encore

    srry

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    xXSword-ChanXx In reply to HanaKouhai [2015-08-20 22:24:00 +0000 UTC]

    DX my friend has been messing with my autocorrect on my phone

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    Eggo-in-Ohio [2015-08-20 17:05:17 +0000 UTC]

    Love this. Both informative and entertaining.

    Too bad dA changed their art theft policy so you can't report them anymore. And their new DMCA take-down request form requires so much personal information (address, phone number, etc) that even friends here who recently have been dealing with art theft aren't comfortable filling them out.

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    ShieldWolfSheena [2015-07-18 21:45:24 +0000 UTC]

    I know someone who got her art stolen and colored in a bit differently and removed the background. And then I heard the dumbest excuse ever... My friend gave it as a lineart to me! I didn't knew this belonged to you! Well YOU gotta be a real idiot to have such a friend!  

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    TimeTravlinTrilobyte [2015-07-16 23:08:08 +0000 UTC]

    Can DA introduce a mandatory 'copyright, fair use and DA poloices' pop-quiz whenever folks make an account??!
    --If new users don't pass it they don't get an account.... that seems like it could work.

    its a bit late for my comment but thanks for going into such detail in this post!! I am really terrified of art theft - I hate having to slam ugly watermarks on all my work but I have to... its no fun having your work stolen (and last time my work was posted on Facebook it was near impossible to report)

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    mint-melon-chan-san [2015-07-12 06:10:38 +0000 UTC]

    If only the first website I posted art on didn't have so many art thieves.... I hated it anyway lol

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    Teegmonkey [2015-07-12 02:13:01 +0000 UTC]

    May I use some of the paragraphs in this to use for a possible animation on scratch? ( scratch.mit.edu, if you don't know is a programing website where people post art, animations and games they have made. But just like DeviantArt, there are re-colors and people steal art.) I want to show everyone how much it hurts the artist as well as the thief. I, of course will put a link in the description/ notes and credits

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    CRITTERRRR [2015-07-11 18:22:42 +0000 UTC]

    I wish Scratch had beautiful people like you :'^)

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    mint-melon-chan-san In reply to CRITTERRRR [2015-07-12 06:09:34 +0000 UTC]

    thank you very much for posting this on scratch!!

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    Teegmonkey In reply to CRITTERRRR [2015-07-12 01:59:09 +0000 UTC]

    I totally wish. I hate seeing amazing animations and 500000000 remixes of the project. It's sad to me, I am an animation student and i work on scratch and when i see a re-color on one of my animations that took days to make... It hurts. 

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    Pigbeast234 In reply to CRITTERRRR [2015-07-11 18:51:07 +0000 UTC]

    Oh my god yes. Also, Afraid-Of-Spiders thank you so much for posting this on Scratch. That website really has a re-color problem.

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    Meredith-Wifficon [2015-07-03 14:50:21 +0000 UTC]

    You think there are lots of art thieves on Deviantart? You should see how many art thieves there are on Google+ and Instagram. 

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    mint-melon-chan-san In reply to Meredith-Wifficon [2015-07-12 06:08:08 +0000 UTC]

    And you should see how many art thieves there are on scratch.mit.edu (I am so disappointed in that website rn)

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    Wayfir [2015-07-01 23:22:14 +0000 UTC]

    Fucking. Thank you.
    You beautiful fucking person.

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    kiakuo [2015-06-15 20:57:39 +0000 UTC]

    You sir, deserved a watch and a llama from me. The perfect use of emoticons and GIFs is perfect for this journal, while still getting your point along. I'm gonna share this with MY watchers, so they can check it out. +FAVE~

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