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He's probably going to be Biracial if he appears in this universe. It was because of the West family being cast as African Americans in the Flash show in the first place that prompted them to make him biracial in the New 52 in the first place, so its unlikely he'll be white.
Hopefully, they'll at least keep his actual character in tact when they bring him in, and not fuck him up.
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Yeah I hope he will look like what he is suppose to in flash series, and act rights hate the new 52 I really ole the dc cinemtic universe fails and marvel can buy the really Wally west and keep him safe from the morons at dc.
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The Flash series I do have high hopes for treating him decently.
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Yeah in comics we have to wait for a reboot for Wally to return and the imposter they got will leave us alone.
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Well, they are doing that Future's End thing, which to my understanding involves the Post Crisis universe to some extent (promo material showed Tim Drake in his classic costume, and one of the previews showed Oliver Queen in his classic bearded look, albeit, very dead); hopefully that'll mess with time and stuff and allow them to re-reboot things they fucked up.
Mostly, I'd like their entire Young Heroes department to get a massive reboot or overhaul. Scott Lobdell really fucked things up with his Nowhere/Harvest crap, and its lost a lot of my favourite comic book friendships that I'd like to have back.
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Yeah red hood and the outlaws blub, 'maybe the real Wally will kick the wannabe to kingdom come a comic better than the new 52
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seen red arow outfit
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Yep, and I really like it.
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Yeah, did you heard that arrow and man of steel are in serpate universes.
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Yep, and I'm disappointed. I liked the idea of a connected universe, especially given the realistic, de-constructive tone and style both were using, and Geoff Johns' reasoning is pretty stupid. 'It gives both freedom to do their own thing', but Arrow will be onto its fifth season (Which, apparently, is up to what they've planned so far) by the time B/S
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Personally after man of steel the show should treat the movies universe like a posionous snake, or do you want superman 'saving' (leveling) starling or central city.
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I think this is something we're going to disagree on, since I liked Man of Steel, and disagree with the 'Superman destroyed the city' thing; there's city damage in every big superhero fight with flying brick characters (look at the cartoons and comics for great examples of that, or even the Avengers), and the bulk of the destruction was caused by Zod's forces, the US military's attempts to fight them, or damage Superman couldn't have stopped or avoided.
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Maybe but he didnt he try to find a way out of the city,
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Well, he did; during the fight with Zod he tried to pull the fight into space so they'd be away from people, but Zod pulled him back down into the city.
That's not to say the film doesn't have its flaws, mind, but so does Arrow, and many other things I like. I just felt there was more to like than dislike in the film.
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I didn't see it like that, plus arrow is constrantly debating weither killing is right or wrong man of steel superman so no problems with killing and have the moronic plan of ramming the enemies in public buildings.Lets get back to flash
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But he wasn't trying to kill them, he was doing all he could do; this is a green Supes who's never been in a fight before, never mind against military-trained individuals with the same powers as him; he has no idea at this point how to really handle the situation, and did the best he could. The only person he personally, actively kills is Zod, which traumatizes him greatly doing so and happened because he had nothing else he could do, since Zod was a death seeker who wouldn't stop until he'd caused as much death as he could at that point. He very clearly had a major problem with doing so given he cried afterwords and was clearly broken up about doing it.
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OK; what else you want to talk about concerning it?
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thoughts on Flash outfit.
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I'm sorta split on that. Its not a bad outfit, but I wish it was brighter and more red (Barry Allen is a character who's supposed to be a bright and fun guy, so his suit should reflect that), and I wish it was made out of a different material. It looks leathery, and that's not a good idea for someone doing a lot of running.
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Yeah, the leather work for daredevil, but I like the suit but the helment doesn't look right I don't know why not. it just is.
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The mask/helmet I feel is acceptable, just not really comic-accurate; I think it might be that it shapes the actor's head, since it gives it a balloon shape rather than a pill shape like the comics and John Wesley Shipp costume did. Saying that, its how I tend to draw it, so its not an issue to me.
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That my be the problem thank you, plus think about the serparated universe we get two spades both unique in their own way.
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(Unlike they did in comics >.>)
I can deal with the race change (despite my being very partial to his pre-Reboot appearance) so long as the character is kept in tact. That doesn't seem to be the case in comics, unfortunately.
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Same here; the biggest issue I have is that he's lost his red hair, since that was a distinct characteristic of his; its also why I have no problem with Electro's race change, as his physical appearance is not important to his character and Jamie Foxx did a good job playing him. But N52 Wally just doesn't feel like Wally; hell, he's only 12 years old now, so all his previous relationships and dynamics with the universe are completely gone with it.
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Agreed on all accounts. Wally's pre-race change appearance was distinct. It would be different if the character didn't have a dynamic or unique appearance (Electro, Nick Fury).
But even so, I would honestly deal with the race change without complaints if only the character acted like Wally West. At least we still have Young Justice, if the Flash show doesn't do him justice.
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That's really why it worked with Fury, they still kept his most distinct facial characteristic-his eye patch-so the race change was ultimately no big deal. Its why I at least understand the anger towards Johnny Storm's race change, since he's more distinctive looking, even though I'm ultimately OK with it since I like the actor cast and its clearly a case of ability over appearance/colour blind casting.
Same here; I'd miss the red hair, but I'd be OK for the most part. Its sad they had to screw Wally over so much; hell, even Young Justice phased him out then killed him off in the second season, after making a huge deal about how he was the slowest of the Flashes, all to instead prop up Barry and Bart.
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Very true. I'm okay with color-blind casting for particular cases, but that does not necessarily mean a retcon of the previous character's appearance is necessary (i.e. they could have changed Wally's and/or Johnny's race for the purpose of the TV series and film WITHOUT changing race in comics, necessarily).
I can see what you're saying, but I think that Young Justice had big plans for Wally later down the line. The whole "slowest Flash" thing seemed more to me like character-building before his eventual becoming the FASTEST Flash. And his "death" seemed more like a way to bring him closer to the speed force for his eventual (and inevitable) return. Of course, we'll never know for sure because the show ended. So it's fair to say that Wally got the shaft in the second season. At least he was pretty great in the first season
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Oh yeah, I agree with you there. I mean, I don't mind if they follow suit in later adaptations, especially if the cast is all otherwise the same race, but there's no need to change the original comics, at least not as blatantly. Don't mind if one or two artists decide to blend the race change in slightly though, like give them darker skin than previously or slight racial features, without completely changing their appearance.
True, I was actually OK with it until they then killed him off, since he WAS the slowest in the comics at first, until character development made him push forward until he was the fastest. I imagine YJ would have likely had Wally develop more in later seasons, along with the rest of the show, since there's a lot they hadn't brought in yet before it was cancelled. Hopefully they'll eventually make a similar show in the future, since before the reboot, DC had a lot of cool younger heroes; it was one of my favourite parts about their universe prior to the reboot, and its one I miss the most.
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