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Published: 2020-01-03 16:41:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 2770; Favourites: 70; Downloads: 0
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Description 2020 isn't just the Year of the Rat, but the Year of the METAL Rat!
*cue electric guitar heavy metal solo*

So coming out of nowhere, the Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ultra Heavy Tank.

Once again, with the same pen and Maus for scale.
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Archanos [2024-02-21 04:55:58 +0000 UTC]

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TChenArt In reply to Archanos [2024-02-22 07:38:54 +0000 UTC]

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Archanos In reply to TChenArt [2024-03-09 15:37:15 +0000 UTC]

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Wisky-08 [2020-01-11 21:37:50 +0000 UTC]

Mammoth Tanks attacksΒ 

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LordZenerack [2020-01-10 12:23:19 +0000 UTC]

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TChenArt In reply to LordZenerack [2020-01-11 07:10:50 +0000 UTC]

"Don't make me go get Karl!"

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flippedoutkyrii [2020-01-06 21:29:27 +0000 UTC]

I mean, they KNEW this thing was gonna be open season for air attack what with all the anti-aircraft guns sitting on it's ass like pimples.

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TChenArt In reply to flippedoutkyrii [2020-01-07 15:57:33 +0000 UTC]

What they KNEW was they couldn't afford a long drawn out war, especially on multiple fronts that would stretch their limited resources and manpower pool. The swift victories over Poland and France may have fed their hubris, but they still somewhat understood that they needed to have better quality to make up for their lack of quantity, especially after their experience in France but even more so with the Soviet Union.

But quality can only go so far before attrition takes its toll, and they may have gone overboard with the next grand and dazzling new toys (jet planes, rockets, bigger tanks, oh my!)rather than resolve the underlying problems that actually held back their full potential such as: their difficulty in synthesizing oil, the poor productivity of their agricultural sector (and not having a war economy until much later), the mismanagement and unnecessary competition between the various industrial companies that wasted their resources and overwhelmed their logistics train, the incomplete motorization of their military that would remain largely reliant horses, etc

The fact that they were seriously considering even something like the Ratte was a problem, since that means they wasted their energy and resources at such an ambitious but silly idea.

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TheJudgeX [2020-01-04 18:21:47 +0000 UTC]

It was basically a land-based warship ( hence the name). That's what I heard.

But even the Maus was too big to be built, so I get that the landkreuzer would never have worked.

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TChenArt In reply to TheJudgeX [2020-01-06 07:10:12 +0000 UTC]

The only way it might've worked is if Germany suddenly became Wakanda and had some kind of wonder mineral or resource. But that's going into Wolfenstein territory of silliness.

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TheJudgeX In reply to TChenArt [2020-01-06 20:35:19 +0000 UTC]

Even the Maus would've been too heavy for most bridges, there's no way THAT thing could've have moved ANYWHERE.

Maybe as a mobile artillery ( like thoses rail guns), but if that's the case, why the armor?

One of the many ideas that looked good on paper, but where reality begs to differ.

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TChenArt In reply to TheJudgeX [2020-01-07 18:26:40 +0000 UTC]

With how big it was the Ratte would've never needed bridges, just literally cross almost any river it might come across on its own.

Because you can't call it a tank (or a land cruiser) if you don't slap on some armor on that bad boy.

Much like the HMS Habbakuk, bat bombs, and the Kugelpanzer, the war was chock full of crazy ideas and experiments that never came to fruition.

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TheJudgeX In reply to TChenArt [2020-01-07 18:28:14 +0000 UTC]

Oh, Germans weren't the only ones, the british bunker-buster spinning wheel was a shining exemple of failure.

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TChenArt In reply to TheJudgeX [2020-01-08 02:58:31 +0000 UTC]

That might be, but some might argue that the tests were done intentionally in view of the British public (and any German spies) as yet more deception tricks conducted ahead of the Normandy landings.

Either way, I think Britain's success rate with their experiments and bold ideas were much better than the Germans, such as the Dambuster bombs, literally ramming an old destroyer into a dry dock and denying the facility from the Kriegsmarine (Operation Chariot), and cracking the Enigma codes, and the fairly successfully propaganda op by the Ministry of Information perpetuating the idea that carrots can help improve eyesight.

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TheJudgeX In reply to TChenArt [2020-01-08 19:18:27 +0000 UTC]

Well, for the Enigma codes, the germans couldn't have kept it hidden very long anyway, as a polish officier had gotten hold of it even before the war started.


Funny thing, have you heard of the spanish turkey-powerd cargo drop during their civil war?
Against all logic, it actually worked.

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TChenArt In reply to TheJudgeX [2020-01-09 07:21:33 +0000 UTC]

No, but now I'm glad I learned about the turkey supply drop. Thanks!

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TimSlorsky [2020-01-04 17:22:33 +0000 UTC]

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TChenArt In reply to TimSlorsky [2020-01-06 08:16:47 +0000 UTC]

I recall learning about how the effectiveness of fighter-bombers at the time might have been overblown, as it would on average take multiple runs from something like an RAF Typhoon to hit anything with its rockets. Hollywood (with the funding and backing of the US military media liaison) might have perpetuated this trope of airstrikes being so devastating to anything and everything on the ground.
But that's not to dismiss the threat that such aircraft posed to ground forces with no air cover or AA support. The potential damage they pose alongside the psychological effect on the troops on the ground is disruptive enough.

But with a Ratte, well you can't miss this barn.

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EL-JEMVI [2020-01-04 05:00:26 +0000 UTC]

That design work on anime realms but not in the reality.

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TChenArt In reply to EL-JEMVI [2020-01-04 06:23:20 +0000 UTC]

If you can ignore the rules and constraints of economics, industrial capacity, logistics, geography, & reality.

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EL-JEMVI In reply to TChenArt [2020-01-05 04:16:56 +0000 UTC]

MAybe we can see, Ratte in Girls und Panzer anime. [0w0]

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TChenArt In reply to EL-JEMVI [2020-01-07 18:29:35 +0000 UTC]

I'd imagine it'd be the mobile HQ of a section from Kuromorimine Girls High School or another school that specializes in experimental or prototype weaponry like the Kugelpanzer or E-series tanks.Β 

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EL-JEMVI In reply to TChenArt [2020-01-08 01:26:35 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.

PD: Iran send 13 missiles to 2 USA's bases on Iraq.

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TChenArt In reply to EL-JEMVI [2020-01-08 02:39:48 +0000 UTC]

?
Didn't realize I had subscribed to a newsletter XD

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EL-JEMVI In reply to TChenArt [2020-01-08 03:30:14 +0000 UTC]

[XD]

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uglygosling [2020-01-03 21:47:44 +0000 UTC]

The main turret is reminiscent of the 15"turrets of the Bismarck, the AA is Bofors 40mm; I'm not sure of the aft turret, Cleveland class CL USN?

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TChenArt In reply to uglygosling [2020-01-04 06:22:18 +0000 UTC]

The main turret is actually 11" (28cm) guns and turrets of the Scharnhorst-class battlecruisers, quad Flak 38 20mm AA guns, and the rear turret most likely that of a Maus or the E100 prototype with a 12.8cm gun.

I imagine the Western Allies equivalent would be, for the Americans at least, up to 12" (305mm) guns and turret from the Alaska-class battlecruisers, 40mm Bofors, and 5" (127mm) dual-purpose guns at the rear, while the British might have up to the 15" guns and turret from the Renown-class battlecruisers, 40mm Bofors, and 4" guns at the rear.

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hardcase1 [2020-01-03 20:32:33 +0000 UTC]

awesome

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