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seaofworry [2014-06-03 05:40:42 +0000 UTC]
yes because studies done in 1995 - 2005 are completely accurate in 2014
wrong.
"(I have been told there is a study that says there ARE bisexual men, but all the bisexuals I know are women"
>there is a study that says bisexual men exist
are you implying that we're mythical beings that don't exist because you only know bisexual women? because it sure as hell seems like it.
Bisexual men exist whether you believe they do or not. Whether or not they have a preference for one gender over the other doesn't invalidate it at all, so don't try to invalidate it by pulling that ridiculous card.
"In theory, bisexual men "do exist", and that's not what the stamp says, but they are primarily attracted to one gender or the other. A true measure of bisexuality is whether you have an equal attraction to men and women or a near equal. What the New York Times said was that they were mostly attracted to men (Kinsey Score 5 to 6) or mostly attracted to women (Kinsey Score of 0 to 1)
Isn't it amazing that these people who debate the stamp can't fathom the possibility that the guys they know may be lying about their true sexual orientation? I mean heck, apparently you can lie about your height, weight, age, etc. but if someone says they're bisexual, holy cow, they must be telling the truth. Give me a break"
what the fuck is your fucking damage how dare you try to debate what constitutes bisexuality in men. I love how you're only saying that women can be bi (regardless of the fact that they may be more attracted to one gender than the other) but NOPE! MEN CAN'T BECAUSE I SAY SO!!!
thanks so much for invalidating my identity and other bisexual men's. Really shows what kind of person you are.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to seaofworry [2014-06-03 05:55:31 +0000 UTC]
I didn't "debate" what constitutes bisexuality. Kinsey did in 1948. I'm going by the accepted definition. So why don't you take your rage somewhere productive and disappear?
The study went from 1979 through 2005. 26 years and was done by doctors with actual degrees. Now who am I going to believe? Some fag who lies and says he's bisexual so that his friends don't cry "Faggot" or doctors with medical degrees who have done studies over a quarter of a century and drew the conclusion which by the way, appears in psychological magazines. That's right, even the psychologists say men can't be bisexual. Enjoy.
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elsens In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 18:26:41 +0000 UTC]
***Also, to add on: I am not trying to say that everyone should ignore a scientific study and its results. It's perfectly acceptable to accept the results of the study. It is NOT okay, however, to ignore the possibility that a study's results can be debunked, or to ignore studies that have already debunked said theories. That's just plain ignorance.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to elsens [2014-06-04 18:47:31 +0000 UTC]
Keep staying in denial. Your parents will think you're not a weirdo.
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elsens In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 18:22:23 +0000 UTC]
"That's right, even the psychologists say men can't be bisexual. Enjoy."
funny you say that, because psychologists DO say that men can be bisexual! www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21…
Fun fact: Scientific studies =/= fact. Time and time again studies are superseded by new research and studies. For example, it was once thought that creatures like fleas came into being via spontaneous generation. That study has been disproved time and time again, going through different phases of ideas, leading up to the theory of evolution, which is still being debated today.
Another example is it was once thought that homosexuality is a mental disorder. This has been superseded and amended newer versions of the DSM. Ideas that were accepted in the scientific community for the longest time are not infallible.
also, the studies you linked above to support the nonexistence of bisexual men are riddled with errors, be it bias or poor test structure.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to elsens [2014-06-04 18:39:45 +0000 UTC]
hey, who are you? Wrongie Wrongerson? It's in the New York Times and WEBMD. 75% of all "bisexual" men are actually GAY, the other 25% are straight.
Even one of your own sites says that there may not truly be a thing as bisexual guys. Sorry.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&…
Wow, pretty damning when even the gay community acknowledges that, these are people who actually supported NAMBLA for a few years because Harry Hay was part of the Stonewall Riots.
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elsens In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 18:44:34 +0000 UTC]
"hey, who are you? Wrongie Wrongerson? It's in the New York Times and WEBMD. 75% of all "bisexual" men are actually GAY, the other 25% are straight. "
Did you literally not read anything I just sent you, OR the study that I sent you? That study was conducted at a later date then the studies you linked above, disproving your links and this fact.
Just because something's been posted on New York Times or WEBMD does not mean it's correct. Those links are dated, and I'm sorry you refuse to listen to new recent studies and remain ignorant.
I mean, if that was the case, printings of slavery articles from the past would still mean slavery is legal today. It's not.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to elsens [2014-06-04 18:46:50 +0000 UTC]
I just sent you a link from two years ago from YOUR OWN COMMUNITY that says it's wrong. Do you not read or are you just so buried in your wrongness that you don't get it?
Sorry, but it's true. Bisexuality in men is nonexistent. 75% of them turn out to be truly gay and 25% of them turn out to be truly straight.
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Purolli In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 21:14:11 +0000 UTC]
Dude, I have a guy friend who is Bisexual in real life?? Its not just girls that are bisexual v o v
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SteveHNo96 In reply to Purolli [2014-06-04 21:19:12 +0000 UTC]
because clearly if he says it it MUST be true, right? Read the fucking context.
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Purolli In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 21:23:03 +0000 UTC]
Um, i'm sorry did I come across rude? No need to curse here, I only stated whats said. Matter of fact, he has dated girls, and men in the past, therefore, not only has he stated being bisexual, but has shown pride in bisexuality, and supported it, along with supporting homosexuality, and heterosexuality.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to Purolli [2014-06-04 21:33:16 +0000 UTC]
He's a big fat liar. That's all you need to know.
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far-passerine In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 19:33:13 +0000 UTC]
Because if we call it science it's 100% true, no phony, bogus, outdated, malpracticed, uncontrolled science experiments can exist.
Also not like statistics can be skewed very easily.
I mean. It's also on the internet so. Even more true.
It's ridiculous to think that people do not use "science" and "statistics" to push their own agendas and create false images. This happens all the time. If you look into credible scientific journals, I'm sure you'll find much more evidence against this.
Overall, I am concerned about your susceptibility to propaganda and commercial advertisements.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to far-passerine [2014-06-04 21:20:20 +0000 UTC]
Okay, so the New York Times, WEBMD and Psychology Today are all not credible and some guy who doesn't want to be called a "faggot" is. Got it.
Moron.
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DesignCVH In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 19:24:26 +0000 UTC]
my male friend likes girls and boys
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SteveHNo96 In reply to DesignCVH [2014-06-04 21:19:27 +0000 UTC]
because clearly if he says it it MUST be true, right? Read the fucking context.
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moefoer In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-04 19:23:07 +0000 UTC]
I have a MALE friend who says he is bisexual. He says he's NOT gay. He is bisexual. I have a WILLING WITNESS
who knows who he himself is. YOU don't know who he is. You can't say 'men can't be bisexual' when there are living people
I know who are.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to moefoer [2014-06-04 21:19:22 +0000 UTC]
because clearly if he says it it MUST be true, right? Read the fucking context.
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bloodlustbunny [2014-06-02 03:56:44 +0000 UTC]
i suport both bisexual men and wimen
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bloodlustbunny [2014-06-02 03:55:33 +0000 UTC]
what about bisexual men
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SteveHNo96 In reply to bloodlustbunny [2014-06-02 04:08:10 +0000 UTC]
For the 80 billionth time, read the article that I had posted. Generally speaking, bisexuality is a misnomer in men because they tend to prefer one gender over the other. In fact, 40% of men who are actually gay claim to be "bisexual" so they don't get associated with the stigmata of being called a faggot.
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seaofworry In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-03 05:32:27 +0000 UTC]
oh really? because I'm a bisexual man with no preference over either males or females, but that doesnt matter because I'm only bi so I won't be labelled as a faggot, according to your logic!
fuck off with this "generally speaking" bullshit. Generalizations are harmful especially if they're used to invalidate sexualities.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to seaofworry [2014-06-03 05:52:34 +0000 UTC]
Just come out of the closet. Life will be much easier for you. I mean shit, with Michael Sam now being elevated to God status without even a second thought, what will happen to you? You're probably gay and in denial.
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bloodlustbunny In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-02 04:13:00 +0000 UTC]
i was just saying i support both thats all
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SteveHNo96 In reply to bloodlustbunny [2014-06-02 06:43:20 +0000 UTC]
The main reason I wrote this was because my best friend and the woman I love is bisexual. A couple of years ago, the New York Times published a story in psychology today that showed that men who claimed to be bisexual actually preferred one gender over another -- they weren't actually *attracted* to both genders like women who say they are, well, are.
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bloodlustbunny In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-02 22:46:46 +0000 UTC]
its just i know men who are definatly bisexual and you can still like both genders but like one more than the other
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SteveHNo96 In reply to bloodlustbunny [2014-06-02 23:29:34 +0000 UTC]
Have you ever heard of the Kinsey Scale? It basically breaks down sexuality on a scale of 0 to 6, stating how attracted you are to the opposite gender or to the same gender.
In order to truly be bisexual, your score has to fall between 2 and 4, indicating a 33 to 67% attraction to each gender. In the case of this study, what they found was that all men fell between 0 and 1, or 5 and 6, indicating that for all intents and purposes, they were either heterosexual or homosexual.
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bloodlustbunny In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-02 23:34:05 +0000 UTC]
is this based on one study or mutiple studys
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SteveHNo96 In reply to bloodlustbunny [2014-06-03 00:08:36 +0000 UTC]
It was based on research done between 1979 and 2005, so I'd hazard to guess it was multiple studies.
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bloodlustbunny In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-03 00:26:36 +0000 UTC]
that was a while ago could things have changed by now? btw im not trying to dis-credit you im just interested in other peoples ideas
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SteveHNo96 In reply to bloodlustbunny [2014-06-03 01:33:59 +0000 UTC]
I'm more interested in the opinion of doctors than anyone who would want to avoid the stigmata of being labeled a "faggot".
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bloodlustbunny In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-06-03 01:38:12 +0000 UTC]
i just think that we are all people gay bi les trans doesnt really matter now i think about it
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SteveHNo96 In reply to bloodlustbunny [2014-06-03 04:51:10 +0000 UTC]
pedophiles and cannibals are people too. Just really deplorable ones, if you ask me.
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KatanaLovingGerman [2014-03-13 19:43:19 +0000 UTC]
*raises hand* I'm a bisexual girl
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MsPyromaniac [2014-01-19 05:16:59 +0000 UTC]
No offence but what about bisexual men? They get as much crap as we do.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to MsPyromaniac [2014-01-19 05:35:49 +0000 UTC]
Read the description again.
This sounds weird because most people assume that bisexuality is anything other than 100% het or 100% homosexual. Generally speaking, men who claim to be bisexual tend to prefer one gender or the other. They're not really attracted to the gender they don't pick. They more experiment. One guy claimed he was bisexual, turned out he had a 90% preference for women and only 10% for men.
Anyways, long story short, men who claim to be bisexual are usually gay (75% of the time) or straight (25%) per the studies published in places like the Times.
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MsPyromaniac In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-01-19 06:06:27 +0000 UTC]
Oh! So like I'm bisexual but I like women more than men.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to MsPyromaniac [2014-01-19 06:47:08 +0000 UTC]
Pretty close. Women can, theoretically, fall all over the map. They can be, say 80% attracted to women and 20% attracted to men, 50/50, 60/40 or whatever.
The study that came out showed that men who claimed to be bisexual tended to favor one gender over the other and by a very large margin (83% or higher towards one gender or the other). Also, 40% of gay men call themselves "bisexual" to avoid the stigmata associated with being labeled as a "faggot".
The studies basically said that true homosexuality and true heterosexuality is practically zero, so they give them a little bit of leeway through what is called the Kinsey Scale. If they're 17% or less attracted to one gender, for all intents and purposes, they're considered heterosexual or homosexual (meaning they prefer the other gender 83%+ of the time). I will say one notable 0 is me. I couldn't care if someone was the nicest man in the free world, I wouldn't be at all attracted to him.
Per this study, 17 to 33% is homo-flexible or hetero-flexible (67-83% to the other gender), and 33 to 67% attracted to both genders is considered the true measure of bisexuality. It's really an interesting read. That was the test they used to determine the relative absence of bisexual men. They tend to pick a gender and go with it the overwhelming majority of the time.
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MsPyromaniac In reply to SteveHNo96 [2014-01-19 08:23:30 +0000 UTC]
So if I was say 90% interested in girls and 10% interested in guys I'd be homo-flexible?
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SteveHNo96 In reply to MsPyromaniac [2014-01-19 20:25:39 +0000 UTC]
It means you're basically a lesbian but you would experiment if need be, hence the term "flexible".
Here's a chart that sums it up for you:
beingloquacious.files.wordpres…
What happened with all the men on the study was they all fell between either 0 and 1 on the scale or 5 and 6.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to MsPyromaniac [2014-01-20 01:13:10 +0000 UTC]
Isn't it? Anyways, what they found was that the men they tested all scored either between 0 and 1 or 5 and 6. Women who they tested appeared all over the map.
That's the long and short of it. Bisexuality in men is actually practically nil, because the men who are bisexual tend to prefer one gender over the other and only experiment with the opposite gender.
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Zosalot [2013-06-24 15:08:43 +0000 UTC]
I like this stamp. And you can tell people who get all on your case over "What about bisexual men" that this stamp doesn't mean you don't support bisexual men. Also I feel from what I've seen personally that bisexual women have a harder time adjusting more than bisexual men. I've seen people accept bisexual men with open arms but then if a bisexual woman makes herself known "I'd never marry a bisexual girl," "It's just a phase," "Oh? Can you make out with your friend for me then?" So it's nice to see support for women especially sometimes.
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SteveHNo96 In reply to CreeppingDeath [2013-06-12 23:24:49 +0000 UTC]
There's one that means everything to me, and I've known her forever. I really love her, and that's all there is to it.
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Madam--Kitty [2013-06-04 21:43:36 +0000 UTC]
ty 4 supporting ppl like me. but i noticed that this doesn't say anything about bisexual men. do u think that only women can b bi. or is it that u find bisexual women sexy?
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