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I’ve always been with Cap in Civil War, comics and film. Same with Civil War II.
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full support to Iron Man and the registration
hero's swear to defend mankind despite the repercussions to themselves, they should be held responsible for any unnecessary damage caused during conflicts
Captain America basically becoming a terrorist in rebellion to the registration despite everyone knowing that he's Steve Rogers is unforgivable in my opinion
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Did you also fully suport Nazi death champs and Holocaust? Since that exactly what that registration is. Firs registration, then extermination. Or would you love, if some Gestapo like thugs drag you form your home and throw you into gulag without any trial or anything? Or you will be deported into Death champ, where you would brainwasht into mindles "propper hero" puppet and if you die druing that, your corpse will end in pawns of some undead-like Nazi?
And those things will hapen, just read some Avengers initiative comics. I read some and was disquisted beyond imaginable. For me, Stark (Carol Danvers either) isnt superhero and/or good person anymore.
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neither is Captain America performing terrorist attacks on innocents in protest to the registration
heroes swear to defend the people no matter the cost to themselves, Captain America rebelling against the registration shows he doesn't care about the people he's supposed to be protection and would rather they fear them than sign a piece of paper
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When did Cap kill any innocent to protest? If you mean SHIELD, that those slimeballs are far from innocents.
So you teling me that people with power/mutants, who even dont want to be Heroes or vilians, dont have right protect themselves or their loved ones?
Jews in Nazi ocupied countrys also only sign pice of paper. Did you even read Civil war/Initiative titles? Do you are ok with those atocitys what Stark and his thugs did to people? Seems like you are and aim disquisted. You makes me vomit. Dont even speak to me agin you creap.
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ok, DON'T compare a FICTIONAL war to the fucking holocaust
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Firs of all genius, i know it fictional. But all those things with registration and all are definitly inspired by that: taranical law- check, live imprisoment without trial- check, death champs-check, dead people-check, unethical und amoral experiment-ceck check and check, nazis-check. Its disturbing to see somebody support something with Nazis all over it, even when its fictional. Not mention that Stark was Fan-nicknamed as Eisenfuhrer and Reed Richards had become Mr. Mengele.
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Iron Man did what had to be done
the public were starting to fear and hated the heroes that swore to protect them and the registration was a way to show that they could be trusted
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Funny. Exactly same case like in shitload X-men stories. Those end with Sentinels massproduction, and end with fully independent Sentinels decidet to only way to protect humans from mutants, its EXTERMINATE THEM ALL. And they are sometimes sucesfull (by using nukes) .
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hero's choose to help people, nobody forces them to do it or expects them to
if Captain America didn't want to sign the registration along with the rest of the rebels they could just hang up their masks and go be civilians cos they proved that they obviously don't care about helping people anymore
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Garcho, this movie will hopefully show the evil of all governments. Igi may be comparing the current governments to the Nazi's in WW2...actually that is an underrepresentation.
The US government is the most evil government in history. Did the Nazi's have (and use on innocent cities) nuclear weapons? If Iron Man supports the government...he must really have been traumatized by Ultron. Captain America on the other hand...by rebelling? He is the hero.
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Actually i compared only Stark, his thugs and that registration/Initiative thing. What i think about goverment is probably too foul even for South park, not mention that english dosnt even have proper translaton for some of them.
Anyway, dont waste your time with that creep. I tryed show him erors, but he still worship both Eisenfuhrer und Mr.Mengele. Did you read that nonsence abou Inocent SHIELD? Those backstabing untrustworty assholes are anything but innocent. Not mention that little thing with Hydra infiltration from wery begining. Its been so hard, that SHIELD is nothing more, than another division of Hydra. No wonder i never liked them. And im not alone, SHIELD is even considerd as vilians by some.
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With SHIELD being vilians? Yeah, why not. From long therm point of wiew they didnt do anything heroic. At last not on their own. It was allways some hero group or individual, and SHIELD just "posed on victory picture" . In one game was this quote: "If we had some time, id tell you some stories about SHIELD. Just trust me, "world peace" isnt at their priority list." Plus with all that Hydra thing.... Now when i mention that, when SHIELD sometime fight aginst Hydra, ist that all just Frendly fire?
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yeah, killing innocent S.H.I.E.L.D members because they were following orders he didn't agree with
real hero stuff
there is no good side to the Civil War, Iron Man's side is almost like a dictatorship but he's doing it to keep the public safe, Cap's side is for freedom but at the end of the day it shows that the rebelling heroes care more about themselves than the people they protect which earns their fear and resentment
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Following orders doesn't make you innocent. You are accountable for any orders you follow.
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like Cap is held accountable for ever murder he committed
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Yes, every murder.
Killing in defense isn't murder.
Killing agents who are enforcing laws on innocent people isn't murder.
He is defending innocent people by fighting their oppressors.
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This didnt gona work buddy. I hat just another round with that Sheep, but its no use. Yeah, i caled him Sheep. He remind me sheeps in George Orwel's Animal farm.
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I know, I am done wasting my time.
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he isn't fighting for the public or civilians
he's 'fighting' for himself and for those who can perfectly defend themselves
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Lets just wait to see the movie, ok?
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So, you think that when someone have some power, he he or she ist human anymore? Just Living weapon without anny rights you say? (exactly same kind of crap that Eisenfuhrer say) You simpleminded fool. Not everyone is capable to doing that. Not everyone is Superman-level, or like i told you once: NOT EVERYONE WAT TO BE FUCKING (so called) HERO!!!!!
And even thats only fictional, such kind of thought can be realy disturbing in real world. If instead of superpovered it will be people with, let me see, diferent skin color?
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i said earlier if they didn't want to register they just hang up their mask and go into obscurity
and they do have rights, they just need to put the needs of the people above their own, that's the sole point of them being heroes, everyone who happily registered suffered for it but it was for the greater good
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And i said you onceTHAT DONT GONA WORK!! Since if they didnt register (and put hey loved ones in danger) , Gestapo...sory, SHIELD one day find them, grab them and thrown them into death Chapmp.
AND WHAT YOU FUCK DIDNT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT SOME DONT WANT TO BE FUCKING HEROES, YOU RETARD?!?!?!???? But working for SHIELD/Initiative isnt mean to be hero. More like expandable aset, witch will be thrown away to his deatd, when they see it fit.
Or do you also thing that when somebody have some power, he automaticly put his underweare on pants and stat bebeling about protecting world peace blah blah blah. What if he just want to helping his parents on farm? You smeghead.
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yeah you're right
the public should just go around being terrified of those supposed to be protecting them which will eventually lead to riots and assassination attempts on the heroes which will lead to them fighting back in defense and killing people thus making them to monsters everyone believes they are
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That already hapennig with mutants in X-men. Good job, you just doscover America. What will be next? Shoes, Rock and roll, wheal?
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hey, i just picked the side that makes the most sense
yes the heroes suffer but at least they're not monsters in the publics eye
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And what make you sure they're not? Especialy when its same public,what wodnt mind let all mutants die, just becouse they mutants. In that case:FUCK WHAT THE PUBLIC WANT. If i decide to do hero things, i gona do hero things (like Punisher) and not to act like trained monkey on strings, what lives on peanuts from master and own fleas.
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so you obviously prefer anarchy over order
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More like common sence and basic rights and freedoms over Orwel-like dystopia what surely evolve into Terminator.
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And thats it, Mr crap for brains. REGISTRATION FORCES THEM. Some people with superpowers dont want to be heroes. They just want to live their lives, but Pro-regs say : No, you have powers, you gona be "propper hero", do exactly what we say (we say kill your mom, you kill your mom) weathever you like it or no, if no we gona lock you in hell without any trial. Sound more like Slavery. This isnt about heroics. This is about lives of people. So hanging up mask and giving up woudnt be option.
Hell, why i even bother with you. Go pray to Eisenfuhrer and Mr.Mengele and dont bother good people anymore.
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I completely agree with you, Captain America is supposed to be the one who represents the people of the U.S the most, he's supposed to be loyal to them (these are more or less his own words), yet he completely goes against their wishes. His decision is irrational as well, the idea of the legislation act was that a select group of higher ups, whom they would have to answer to should they cause any unnecessary damage, be the ones to know their identities; it wasn't as though the whole world was to know their names (which would be a terrible hassle, as well as a dangerous inconvenience). Tony, as well as the acting commander of Shield (which at the time was neither Tony nor Cap') would be a part of that group, Steve was also to be a member, but his stubborn and foolish ways made him completely unwilling to see reason. In the end Tony had to be the logical, rational and moral one; his possessing a mind that can predict events far into the future allowing to make, for the most part, the correct and necessary decisions for the greater good. Iron Man did this knowing that most of his friends would turn on him and view him as the one in the wrong simply because he was opposing Captain America, he selflessly did what needed to be done even at the cost of his own happiness. I think Black Widow was always on his side... that or neutral leaning towards him, not sure about that.
The writers had intended for Tony to be viewed as the one in the right (which I did see him as, but whatever), yet somehow most readers seem to side with Cap' for some odd reason.
I love Cap', his irrational optimism is contagious and he is pretty cool, but he can be so incredibly stubborn to the point of causing... well, a Civil War.
I might be biased seeing as Iron Man/Tony Stark is my favorite superhero/comic book character, but part of that being is due to his selfless actions during this stupid War and various other occasions. Also he's portrayed as a flawed human being, like everyone in this world (which makes him someone you could relate to), while Steve is seemingly perfect, really cool, but perfect.
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that's why i hate Captain America
he's a boy scout, flawless making him a boring superhero to me
plus he outright refuses to help anyone that isn't American
Thor once requested the Avengers aide in defending Asgard and Cap outright turned him down stating "I'm Captain America, not Captain Asgard"
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Well that certainly makes it harder to like him... to be honest, the main reason I like him is because he was one of Tony's closest friends until he became a stubborn and self righteous idiot. I'm a U.S citizen (Chilean as well), but the whole "American" pride that makes many boast outright that their country is the best gets really old really fast. You can love your country all you want, but don't blind yourself to the beauty of other countries or to the flaws of your own. This is basically what Cap' does (helping only if it has something to do with "America", most of the time any who), while just about every other superhero seems more than willing to help anyone in need whom they have the ability to help. I try to ignore all that and see the good stuff about him, but he ends being rather bland in comparison to many other superheros.
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indeed
all the heroes i like have major flaws that make them interesting
that is why Hulk is my favourite Marvel hero, he's constantly on the very brink of becoming a wild unstoppable animal that will kill anything in sight but he always suppresses his rage just enough to do the right thing
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