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Spungecore-Loonatik — no socialism through reform

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Greatkingrat88 [2019-09-01 18:13:47 +0000 UTC]

Funny how after over a century of trying, nobody's actually managed True SocialismTM.

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RedAmerican1945 In reply to Greatkingrat88 [2019-09-01 21:16:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah the CIA made that so.

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thelostone999 In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2023-02-11 09:49:05 +0000 UTC]

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Greatkingrat88 In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2019-09-01 22:00:13 +0000 UTC]

The CIA was behind China, Soviet Russia, North Korea et al?

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RedAmerican1945 In reply to Greatkingrat88 [2019-09-01 22:52:08 +0000 UTC]

Taking me out of context hey.

Rigging Italy's election in 1945
Rigging France's election in 1945
Helping Suharto overthrow the indonesian government and instituting the mass killings in 1965 and 1966.
Overthrowing Chile's government in 1973
Backing the Khmer rouge against the new Kampuchean government and Vietnam from 1978 till the 1990's.
All of the Coups and dictatorships supported in South America.
Funding the Mujahideen in the 1980's
Funding religious extremist groups in Yugoslavia in the 1980's

Truly the prover of democracy and freedom.

And also, the USA invaded the USSR during the civil war but lost, and kept messing with the USSR. And Sanctions on North Korea and the USA staying on the peninsula continues to worsen the situation and tighten the kims grip on the north.

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Greatkingrat88 In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2019-09-02 07:17:14 +0000 UTC]

I'm never going to argue the US doesn't have a fucked up, imperialist history of subverting democracies to install right wing dictatorships in their paranoid pursuit of communist spooks, that's just a fact.

But all the same, every time communism is attempted on a larger scale, it leads to corruption, tyranny, starvation and horror, precisely because it lacks the kind of checks and balances system constitutionally built liberal democracies offer. To jab at a constitution while supporting a side that has repeatedly failed because of it is flat out delusional.

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RedAmerican1945 In reply to Greatkingrat88 [2019-09-03 00:48:33 +0000 UTC]

The Development of the ML States happened for a certain reason, they existed in a majority capitalist world where most forces were out to destroy them, no duh they turned out the way they did. The ML states were no where near perfect, but I think Michael Parenti said it best. www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKqVW4…

To  simply say communism fell because it is bound to lead to dictatorship is downright idiotic, and requires denial of the western powers coordinated plan to contain and attack any semblance of socialism. Even mild Soc Dems like Gough Whitlam were to much of a threat to the USA  www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dpx4o…

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Spungecore-Loonatik In reply to Greatkingrat88 [2019-09-01 18:32:07 +0000 UTC]

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Greatkingrat88 In reply to Spungecore-Loonatik [2019-09-01 22:01:12 +0000 UTC]

"It totally worked for a short period of time in these isolated niche cases! That means our system is viable on a large scale even though it's been a disaster every time it was tried!"

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