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Weapons for the Wasteland Weekend 2013. Most are from recycled, or rather UPcycled materials. Here we have a hammer- I call "socket to me". a paperweight. Yes. Paperweight. Because California. That's why. A peace pipe- yes- that ax is a functional peace pipe, all in steel. The colors are done by heating carefully. Finally, we have the "templar". Because it's a mace, and clerics use blunt weapons because they can't shed blood...Related content
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wow nasty looking weapons (in a good way, no offense)
would be terrific in battle
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Thanks! They were a lot of fun to make.
Except pretty much all of these would likely get stuck in your victim. So for a one-on-one, sure- but a battle? I tend to avoid saw blades...
For MY Post-apoc stuff, I'm sticking to a rifle, a short sword, a long sword and a pole arm! I prefer to keeps 'em AWAY from me!
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Hahahaha i heard ya bro !!
I personally would prefer a rifle a shotgun or even a crossbow than being too close
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If the zeds are like the walkers in the Walking Dead or Romero's movies- Give me a silenced Ruger 10-22 with a folding stock and EOTech sight on it. The 25-round mags work great, and you can- literally- carry THOUSANDS of rounds of ammo.
Although I DO like my FN-FAL and AR...
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I would LOVE to have a delisle rifle
It was a lee enfield converted to shoot .45acp using 1911 mag and with a integrated suppressor that was extremly efficient
It was the most silent weapon of his time
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I got to see one that a guy made. It was VERY cool! Didn't get to shoot it, of course, but it was neat to handle!
But mag capacity and speed of action is really important in a zed apoc, so I'll stick by my 10-22~
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the advantage of 22 is it really accurate and you can literally carry thousand of rounds, but it lack stopping power
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Who needs stopping power? All you need do is pop the brain pan!
If I need to drop a person, a functional non-zombiefied person- I'd use a rifle, like my FAL.
.308 (7.62x51)- because people hide behind shit.
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well to "pop the brain pan" is a little bit harder than we think . i talked with other zombie passionate before about how the brain of a zombie would work, since all it need is basic instinct and basic coordination then most of the brain will be useless
on that i will refer you to the image i made to show what i mean major-azrael99.deviantart.com/…
this is a image i made after the talk.
to be able to get access to the important part of the brain to neutralize you need to be quite accurate and get through some of the hardest part of the skull.
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Perhaps my 6 years of law enforcement and crime scene work are to blame, but I differ somewhat on the exact methods. In almost ALL cases I saw of small caliber intrusion to the interior of the brain, damage existed in all areas. Even a .25 hitting the frontal lobes had damage evident to the naked eye near the medulla. A .25ACP has about 70% the terminal energy of a .22LR hi-v, so I'll stick there, thanks! (mm is my current choice- more on that below, though.
As to the drawing- you actually really want to aim for the upper lip/base of the nose, as the way the structure of the skull deflects the bullet, that will destroy the "lizard brain"- in a living human, that means little or no twitch, in a zed, it turns out the lights. Again. If you aim for the "bhindi", you may skate and not cause an instant death, so your perp can twitch and shoot, push the button, whatever. Also, the forehead is one of the toughest parts of the skull, right after the top of the jaw line- where the jaw attaches. Just a point most any sniper type would make, but then they also don't usually aim for the head, but rather center mass- as it's good enough with a HP rifle. With a pistol- when in doubt- Mozambique. That's 2 to the chest, 1 to the head- then you know that it's dead!
Again- the point is somewhat moot, overall as we have no idea what a zed would actually be, or how they'd operate. Yes, I'd LOVE more power- and actually do have the weapon I'd carry now- although it isn't silenced, it's a 9mm carbine, bullpuped- total length of 28". It uses a 20, 36 or 50 round stick- and I may mod it to take a 71 round drum, but I think that'd be a bit of overkill. The mags are from the Soumi kp-31, in case you want to know.
Thing is silence is worth a LOT more than stopping power to me. I'm pretty good at NOT getting seen or heard, which is what I was trained for in room clearing, some 20 years ago. They train totally differently now, though- much noisier, and with a LOT more reliance on flash-bangs, which were really new when I did the training. Also, the radios they use now actually WORK. Ours sucked ass.
Anyhow- there are a TON of conjectural exercises one could go through- but by and large, zeds aren't my greatest concern. Other people are! Hence, my wife and I train in ballistic vests with our AR's usually, though we are transitioning to the 9mm bullpups, as they weigh a bit less and are much shorter. That 147 grain round from a 16.25" barrel is a corker, too!Mine you- I really prefer my FAL- your old Canadian .308 "R1". It's my darlin', though she is HEAVY!
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well i respect your experience and thank you for you service to serve and protect the citizen
and also thank for the intel,
personally my opinion about small caliber changed when my Swiss friend introduced me to the Sig 551 and the ammo the GP90, it is a heavier and full metal jacket ammo with much more powder and much more accurate than the 5.56, and the rifle can still used plain old 5.56 but it would not be as good a s the GP90
what is your opinion on 22 magnum ? useless or you see some practical use ?
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Most welcome, and thank you back.
No experience with it, but basically it's like a magnum .223, from what I've read/heard. Shoots for shit in 1:7 twist barrels used in the U.S. for most AR's though. You need a different rifling twist (not sure what~) to really do it justice, as well as a retarded blowback to get the benefit of the greater power. And that exhausts what I know of it!
.22mag is a great cartridge, but is rare, still. It's getting more popular, but is now competing with the .17 HMR, so it'll take a wee bit to gain more traction. I say it's rare because there are still not too many weapons that USE it, especially compared to say... .22 LR.
I plan to get a Ruger pistol, a revolver that uses .22 LR, but also has a .22 WMR cylinder. Quick change-out, and you have a much more powerful, 9-shot pistol that is extremely reliable. Also, the Kel-Tec 30 rounder auto pistol is neat- but it is not reliable as yet. They keep having failures and recalls on it. One day- when they get it working well, I'll happily buy one- because I've shot it, and it's so fun!
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thanks you and i love ruger guns, i specially loved the ruger redhawk and kel-tec are really interesting i like the sub-200 , but i would take it in 40 s&w , that caliber is as smooth as the 9mm but as powerful as the 45.
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I am sort of a purist- the .40 isn't as powerful as the .45, except within about 3 meters- past that, it's not. It also takes more space than a 9mm...
I think I dislike the fact that it's a compromise cartridge that was spawned because the 10mm was too much for most people. Basically, I feel if you ant magazine capacity, go 9mm. If you want stopping power, use a .45. The .40 is kinda like... neither. Well, to me, anyhow. Most police I know got one way or the other as well, unless required to carry a .40. Again- this is based mostly on preference, and a wee bit on the ballistics and a series of tests refered to "one-shot stops". This is about stops, not necessarily kills, and the .40 just doesn't do it for me... only a 1.7% margin better than a 9mm, and almost 10% below the .45~
Kel-tec makes some cool stuff. I'v fired the bullpup .308- very nice, and the bullpup shotgun- not so nice, but a very cool idea, overall. And 2 magazines? Yes, please!! The pistols have some issues, though. The fold away sub-2000s are neat rifles- but they melt if fired too quickly. They were made for a specific purpose- and that is as a survival or emergency gun- for which they are GREAT. We've shot one to failure- and the front sight melted off after about 60 or 90 (2 or 3 mags, can't recall~) rounds rapid fire! The receiver to barrel area melted to failure after about 150 rounds, again- very rapid fire. Cool thing was the gun functioned right to the point it sagged forward, and the bolt remained in battery to the barrel, it did not extract, or even un-lock. That is a good design, right there. Again- for what they were intended to do, they are a great little gun- and I'm looking for a used one for us to have in the "bug out" bag.
Bestens!
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I didn't know about those prob with the sub2k
I know you can find new front grip and front sight but i don't know if changing those would fix the prob
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ACK!! I was talking about the SU-16 series!! My bad!!
Sorry! The sub2k is actually a fine handling piece, but we haven't had one come out to destroy. It shoots well, and actually was the basic reason I decided to do a bullpup in pistol caliber. Dang... I was NOT thnking with my last response!
The big thing is the plastics work fine for pistol cartridges, they simply don't generate as much heat as a rifle round~
Again- sorry for running off the wrong way (item?)!!
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ho ok then, and abour the RFB in 308 ? do it suffer the same problem as the su-16 ?
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No- it has a steel to steel connection. The plastics won't take the abuse of the .308 round, anyhow. Even the modern Advanced Combat Rifles use steel to steel or aluminium for that caliber~
I've only been able to handle an RFB,m not been able to shoot one. Hope my friend gets his Tavor and RFB sometime soon, though. I really want to shoot them and see how they are!
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hahahaha please keep me in touch about that
the RFB really look like a real modern futuristic battle rifle, and the fact it use FN FAL mag is interesting. at least the mag are available .
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YEah, sadly it uses metric, and my FAL is an inch pattern~ Oh well...
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there is a difference with the mag ? i know 308 and 7.62x51 ain't the same but as much as the mag, i didn't know.
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Well, the cartridges are close enough- even more so than .223 and 5.56x45 are. Biggest difference is that the military stuff has thicker walls on the brass.
As to the difference in mags- the metric FAL mags have only a small , pressed out "nub" for the front lock up, while the inch-pattern mags have a rather substantial block of hardened steel on the front.
An inch-pattern gun can use metric mags, but you can't put an inch pattern mag in a metric gun.
If I had an RFB, my FAL could use it's mags, no issue aside from a little looseness. The RFB however cannot use the FAL's mags. IIRC- the Canadians used inch pattern for the C1 FAL version (almost an L1A1 from the Brits, but noooot quite~) but I'm not 100% on that.
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well i gonna go to bed tonight less stupid than yesterday, but seriously that gun is one heck of a beast,
this is what i would like to built just for the heck of owning a sci-fi rifle major-azrael99.deviantart.com/…
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Looks like basically an SA-80, the Brit rifle in current use, more or less.
BEcaus you'll have a lot of bolt weight around the chamber area, guns designed like this tend to have heat issues, and that is a continuing issue the Brits have with their rifles, now. The bolt MUST have a certain weight, and it MUST have a certain travel (about 10-20% longer than the live round~) or the weapon will experience feed and extraction issues. Usually, anyhow. I'm sure someone far more clever than I has made all kinda of guns that are outside what I know to work!
Thank you for the compliment! I really do like to pass on knowledge- especially "practical" knowledge I've been lucky enough to gain. Thanks again!
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i'm also a fan of weapons and firearm but my knowledge ain't as advance as your, but either way better than the normal citizen here hahahaha
i just started to study ballistic and firearm mechanic, i know enough to know the difference between a open and a close bolt and to know that you need to aim with a shotgun not just point in a generic direction hehehe
there is just a few firearm i can honestly say that i know enough about like M16 and AR-15. i carried the C7A1 and the C8 during years and know every little detail about them and also the M249 and the M240B a little bit less about the M2 .50 since i didn't had enough good time with it
i have no doubt that my firearm knowledge will only get better and thanks to you i learned a few thing.
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Awesome! We are tryiung to build a semi-auto M249- 3 different configurations of them, in fact. We have the early minimi with the dual-feed for magazines or belt, a older, "standard" 249, and we hope to get the parts to build a paratrooper version of the current SAW. Expensive stuff, though...
And you should learn something every day, otherwise it's a wasted day!
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hahaha indeed,
i saw some semi-auto MG34 here for sale on Mastar.ca
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We already have 2 each of the semi MG 34, and MG 42. Very cool weapons! A shame to have them made into semi's, but at least they are a LITTLE more affordable to shoot...
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What are you talking about ??
They are just shooting 8mm mauser rounds at 1200rpm
^_^
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"just" he says...
:-P
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well it better than the gatling of the A-10
they are armor piercing and incendiary 30mm shooting at 3 500 rpm ^_^
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What's kinda sad, is in selling one a while ago (mg 34 semi) we paid our mortgage for 6 months with the profit.
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what i would kill for is a semi auto M240B non-restricted
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I don't think you can have one in Canada at all, but I'm not sure. Here, the only restriction is that it has to be an approved design, made by a proper dealer/manufacturer, and not illegal in your city, county, and state.
Other than that, it's an expensive parts set and semi receiver guts... but do-able!
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if i could had a MG34 a M240B ain't that impossible
don't destroy my dream !!!
lol.
anyway one day i will be living in Texas and every problem will be resolve
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Heh. You seen how our "government" works? I would not go so far as to say all the problems will be solved...
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It kinda hard to take the gun of peoples if they are in their hand
Lock and loaded
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Dude. They have drones with Hellfires and Tomahawks.
But by-and-large, yes.
Of course, if you can't FIND one to buy, it DOES make it harder to get one!
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Talk about it to the NRA when the british tried that
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There were a LOT less firearms in the UK, and the culture is very, very different. But it'll be a hard sell to get firearms taken away from folks in the U.S., for sure!
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Haha these are great to see, my good friend Joe started his blacksmith hobby with recycled materials like this. One of my favorites was a flail with which he had welded what appeared to be six wood splitting wedges together for the ball.
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Whoa. that had to be HEAVY!!
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Lol, yes, it was scary and unweildy.
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Horrid to be hot with, though, too!
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Mr too! ALways wanted to make one, so this was a good excuse!
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That does look like a fun project.
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It was- but the old saw blades were made from an odd steel- it would actually harden wherever it got hot! One of the flanges actually cooled too quickly- and popped off! I ended up putting the whole assembly in my kitchen oven at 400F, did the repair weld while it was still hot- and then returned it to the oven, which I turned off. That way, it cooled much more slowly.
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huh, that's interesting. Does the metal do that so that, when the blade was going at a certain speed, it didn't end up melting while in use?
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