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Published: 2012-11-04 10:37:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 11344; Favourites: 93; Downloads: 0
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An alternate history map of North America.Related content
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Just an observation, if the Confederation of Texas, however it logically arrived at those borders, is as mapped, it would mean it lost a conflict/war over establishing a port on the Pacific. And it would mean they would be coming back for a second, third, etc., to attempt to seize territory on the Pacific in the future.
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It couldnt have arrived at that southern borders with this POD.
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I find it strange that the St. Lawrence river is Quebec's border: it should be it's heartland. Losing the south-east shore just seems absurd.
As far as naming goes, it is very unlike it would be called "Quebec" at all. It would either be called Canada or New France depending on the status of the other French provinces at the time of independence.
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As this was a commissioned piece I had no influence on the setting.
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Looking nice. I imagine the colonization of North America was slowed by those enormous celaphapods.
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Whoever put Minnesota as the capital of the Plains is a genius
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So many possibilities.
And the greathing about alternate histories for North America is that they could have so very nearly become a reality. Texas was a nation once for example, and I wouldn't put it past the people of Quebec to becone a state in and of themselves.
In fact, I'd wager that the world would be much more interesting if this had actually happened.
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That's a mighty convergent Mexico-Texas border you've got, there. Otherwise, excellent work!
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I..see. And you're welcome. Still, that's going to piss me off every time I see it.
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This is very nice, and professional. Your map-work is spectacular.
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My guess is that the Anglo-French Wars ended more in the favor of France, the American Revolution took longer and Mexico failed to keep Texas and California in line?
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A commissioned piece, I don't have additional info.
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My only real issue is the Confederation of Texas
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I was born there so to hell with you!
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Well so was I. In fact Im still here. I make alt. history maps myself, many about Texas,and this Texas seems implausible.
Based on the small amount of information given, the POD of this map is probably set between 1763 and 1803, between the end of the 7 Years War and the Louisiana Purchase. Texas didnt gain its independence from Mexico until 1836 and Austin wasn't founded until 1839. The Mexican-Amrerican War wasnt fought until 1846, and since it was never fought hear at all, the Texan-Mexican borders shown here, a result of the Mexican Cession and the Gadsen Purchase, are impossible.
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oh, well, I guess it is a different Texas. yeah!
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It is impossible :/
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Like I said, the southern border is impossible. That border wasnt established until 1846, 43 to 83 years after the Point of Divergence. It cant just be a "different Texas". It has to make sense in the historical context.
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Mhmmmmn. Now you get it.
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yeah the Rio Grande is not much of a barrier, is it?
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Actually, I drove over it coming back from Mexico a few weeks ago, and it is quite the massive river. Its quite common for border control to have to drag the bodies of would be immigrants who drowned trying to swim across. Theres a reason our ancestors chose to claim it as the border of Texas.
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it varies at times and it thins a bit along places and it sucks as I saw a scene of border patrol watching illegal's on the other side of the border, which they can do nothing about.
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When you say "on the other side" do you mean when they are still in Mexico? Because at that point in time they are not "illegals".
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true, they are legal in their own country, but the border patrol knows they will try again.
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I have to defend them since I travel to Mexico by car at least once a year and Ive seen the conditions some of them live in. I understand why they try and I wouldnt ever blame them for it.
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I understand, Mexico has been in shambles unless your rich, no wait, even then your at risk, last time I checked.
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No argument here.
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well, at least Cancun is amazingly beautiful!
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Ive only been on vacation to Mexico twice. Most of my visits are for mission trips. You really get to see the true meaning of poverty when you walk house to house, handing out food, after a flood washed away the bridge that connected the village to the nearest town.
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if any country needs a revolution, its Mexico.
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Dont worry. Either the growing middle class will finally stabilize the economy and elect a government strong enough to oust the cartels, in which case the American southwest will become the center of global attention, or the cartels will finally take control of the central government and the US military will be taking a little stroll across the border to sort things out, which will hopefully end in the incorporation of the Mexican states into the American Union.
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The US military versus cartels, I side with the USA.
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