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raton223 In reply to Spider-Bat700 [2017-10-24 06:28:02 +0000 UTC]

if you talk about the live action movie, mulan is an extraordinary well trained soldier, which can fight with sorta all weapons except I think bows. But if you talk about the movie, she does wield a sword my friend here's the proof  
i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/1a/5…

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to raton223 [2017-10-24 14:37:11 +0000 UTC]

That isn’t swordfighting. That is holding a sword. Anyone can HOLD a sword. I’m taking about actually fighting with a sword, which she never did at any point in the movie ever on any occasion ever.

Also, you know I have actually seen Mulan several times right? So don’t post links to single images or videos suggesting that I haven’t.

Sigh. When does the irrational Mulan fanwanking end?

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420BlazeItAmy In reply to Spider-Bat700 [2018-05-18 13:33:14 +0000 UTC]

"Sigh. When does the irrational Mulan fanwanking end?"

Just so you know, comments like those are probably what make people think you're getting heated or upset. I can see the hint of sarcastic/accusing tone in the overall comment. Some people think of those things as unnecessary in an argument or just plain rude.

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Spider-Bat700 In reply to 420BlazeItAmy [2018-05-18 16:04:15 +0000 UTC]

Except I probably only made that remark after I had already been falsely accused of getting upset after I gave an argument that relied on facts and evidence that the other person entirely ignored. As such, I was already in a foul mood because of a prior encounter with a Mulan fangirl who interpreted my giving facts and evidence as "getting heated" and then blocking me. 

And frankly, I was right; the Mulan fanwanking IS Irrational. It's part of why she's so overrated. That, and bad arguments are bad arguments, and countering them with facts is not grounds for criticism on the part of someone else. When one insists for instance, that she's a fine or even good swordswoman when she has literally NO feats with a sword for example, that person is making a terrible argument. When one insists she's a master H2H fighter when her H2H feats amount to, in the first movie, beating one featless henchman by restraining him with his bow and landing a single hit on an unimpressive H2H fighter in an inconclusive sparring match, that person is making a bad argument. When one accuses me of "getting heated or upset" because I am trying to impress facts and logic on someone who refuses to recognize or accept said facts and logic, that person is making a bad argument, and also one that is likely to make me upset when I was not previously. 

You know, truth be told, I had actually forgotten about this, until your reply brought it back to my attention. In any event, my opinions haven't changed even a little bit; Mulan is not a good sword fighter OR H2H fighter except in the second Mulan movie, which was garbage anyway. And people's maddeningly obstinate refusal to accept that even when presented with the facts is a symptom of rampant Mulan fanwank. The same kind of Mulan fanwank that makes people act as though she's the only good female Disney ever made despite evidence to contradict that idea as well. Would you believe that I knew someone who's mother wouldn't let her watch ANY Disney film growing up except for Mulan?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiS…

Yes, Mulan is fanwanked. Worse than any other female character I've ever seen, actually (though Black Widow, Huntress, and Rey fanwankers are definitely runner-ups).

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420BlazeItAmy In reply to 420BlazeItAmy [2018-05-18 13:34:28 +0000 UTC]

I'm not trying to call you our on anything lol, but that's just what I gathered and assumed.

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