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Description Here is a rendition of a Geisha using pencils and paper. Let me know what you think.
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Samantha1987 [2006-09-15 09:04:11 +0000 UTC]

she is very beautiful i can't wait to see the coloured version, i'm sure it would be amazing.

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RobDog187 In reply to Samantha1987 [2006-09-15 12:05:05 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the kind comments. I have been so busy that I haven't been able to work on the colored version for awhile but I will get it done sometime soon.

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rugdog [2006-07-03 14:22:18 +0000 UTC]

cool, love all the detail!

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RobDog187 In reply to rugdog [2006-07-03 16:50:39 +0000 UTC]

thanks for the comment

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hippyofdoom [2006-07-01 20:01:14 +0000 UTC]

Is this a picture of Mineko Iwasaki? I was looking at a picture of her very similar to this and it reminded me of your work instantly!

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-07-02 01:34:17 +0000 UTC]

Yes it is a depiction of Mineko Iwasaki. She is such a beautiful and remarkable woman I hope my depiction of her serves her character justice. Have you read her book "Geisha, A Life". It is a really good book.

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-07-02 08:16:33 +0000 UTC]

I adore Mineko! I have read her book (though in the UK they called it 'Geisha of Gion' for some reason). She is one of the most stunning real life geisha I have seen, and I'd give anything to see her dance! I loved how she handled the way other geisha and customers treated her, and how she insisted everyone at the okiya ate together regardless of status. It's a pity what Arthur Golden did to her... there was no need to name her like that.

Have you read 'Autobiography of a Geisha' by Sayo Masuda? It's a startling contrast from the geisha life Mineko experienced.

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-07-02 20:28:26 +0000 UTC]

I have not read sayo Masudas book... I will have to look for it. I am currently reading "Geisha" by Liza Dalby. She is the only non-japanese to become a real geisha. It is a very informative and historical look at what a Geisha is. It is much less intimate then Mineko Iwasakis memoir and is much more of an overview of the lives of wide array of geisha. Its an informative look at what it is to be a Geisha.

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-07-03 15:42:50 +0000 UTC]

It is worth buying Masuda's book because it has a massive bibliography of books on geisha, and I can't wait to buy them and tick them off!

I have heard of Dalby's book and would like to read it, though she was never actually a geisha, see here . I've heard that Lesley Downer was the only westerner to become a geisha, though I don't know if that's true or not, but apparently her novels on geisha are very good.

I really really really want 'Geisha: The Life, The Voices, The Art" by Jodi Cobb, because apparently it is an awesome photographic essay, and me loves geisha photographs!

It's nice finding someone who has an equal interest in geisha

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-07-08 15:17:38 +0000 UTC]

I will look for masuda's book. It sounds like a great book.

I do not know much about Lesley Downer other then she is an expert on traditional Japanese culture, however, according to Liza Dalby's book, Liza Dalby did in fact become an active working geisha. Although I do not think she ever graduated from maiko status to geiko status. I don't think she worked as a geisha long enough to graduate to geiko status.

aw... yes. Jodi Cobb's book looks fantastic. I am definately going to have to pick that one up. I love the visual arts and I am especially attracted to Geisha. I will definately pick that one up.

Exchanging messages with you is a pleasure. I am very pleased to have found someone so compelled to learn about such a beautiful cultural art form.

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-07-09 11:29:32 +0000 UTC]

Does only working as a maiko qualify working as a geisha? Because I remember something about Pumpkin not making it past maiko and therefore failing as a geisha in Memoirs, but that is pretty fictionalised, especially on Gion traditions. Whether she was a proper geisha or not, her insight must be amazing.

I want too many books! Amazon is a bad place for me, books will be the source of my debt!!

Geisha is perhaps the most beautiful art form... I mean every area of their being must be perfect, therefore everything is beautiful.

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-07-09 17:04:01 +0000 UTC]

That is an interesting question. Does a working maiko qualify as a working geisha? The maiko years are in fact the busiest years of a giesha's career. Although a maiko is technically an "apprentice" geisha. I think the best way to put it would be that she was a geisha in training. Either way you look at it she has found some real insight into the lives of geisha. Her book is a good resource to add to ones gathering of information pertaining to the art that is geisha.

Books, books, books! I completely understand. I love to read, especially if it is a good resource pertaining to Japanese culture. I agree, Amazon for me is a love-hate relationship. So many good books, so little time and money. Argh!

Geisha are such wonderful examples of the beauty of art. They way they dress, walk, talk, eat, sleep, dance, sing, are all factors of one of the most beautiful and compelling art forms in the world. The fact that Geisha are slowly declining in numbers is an absolute tragedy.

As always it is a pleasure to chat with you. mata ne.

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-07-12 14:43:46 +0000 UTC]

She definitely has the best insight of any Westerner! Such an honour to be treated as a geisha, whether as a maiko or geiko. I still have delusions about going to Japan, slapping on white make up and a kimono and going 'Teahouses! Pay me flower fees for I am a geisha!" but thankfully regain my senses before I book flights to Japan I'm so jealous of her being able to entertain as a geisha for sure.

I went to Borders the other day and it was worse for me than Amazon. Because you get to see the books properly, you want them more... and then I think things like... maybe Amazon will be more expensive... maybe this version is now out of print, and I want to buy it there and then with no reason. I didn't see any books on geisha! That's very lucky for my bank balance as I'd have spent loooaaads.

For geisha to be successful, they have to be so dedicated to their art, and it is terribly unfortunate that this dedication is dwindling. I'm glad you agree on the preciousness of their art

What does mate ne mean? I'm so eager to learn Japanese. i'm going to go through all my books on geisha and create a vocabulary sheet so I have better understanding, because I'm too cheap for those linguaphone things.

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-07-13 01:04:53 +0000 UTC]

I have plans to go and live in Japan eventually and one of my priorities upon arriving in Japan is to find a tea-house and experience an evening with Geisha. I am very excited to experience a real life performance presented by real life Geisha. I just think it would be so amazing.

In addition to my fascination with Geisha, I also am equally interested and fascinated by the lives of Samurai. I myself still have delusions stemming from childhood of being a noble samurai. Defending the honor of my clan, raising a son in the proud art of ken-do. The art and ritual of ancient Japan continually pulls at my soul and continues to fascinate, and compel me, to a land so different from my own.

I know the feeling. Everytime I step into a bookstore (especially Borders) I just want to buy, buy, buy. Fortunately for me The nearest bookstore is a good 20 miles away.

The term "mata ne" simply means "see you". It's an informal good-bye you will hear often in Japan. That is so cool you are interested in the Japanese language too. I think it is such a beautiful language and I love to hear it spoken. I have been studying Japanese for about 5 months now and I'm finally starting to really pick it up. I think it's so much fun to learn another language, especially one that is so different from English. I have quite a lot of Japanese language resource material so if you need any information on the Japanese language I would be more than willing to help you out anyway I can.

mata ne!

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-07-14 11:52:57 +0000 UTC]

I want to be entertained by a geisha in Japan too! Is that weird for a girl?

Samurai are very interesting, though I know very little about them. I wanted to take up ken-do very badly for a while. i tried fencing and was *abysmal* but my main issue was that its so clinical and not like an actuall fight, while ken-do looks more authentic. i think I'm a 'to the death!' kind of fighter I think Japan's main appeal to me is that everything is so different to Western culture, from their writing to their clothing, it's a complete 180 degree turn from the West.

The nearest Borders is pretty far from me too, but HMV is like 15 minutes walk away... and i have a discount there! I'm so weak. I spend Β£20 everytime I go there whether I intend to or not!

Added mata ne to my Japanese vocab! Their language is so beautiful. I can't bear to watch Spirited Away with English dubbing... it seems so wrong! OMG you rule for offering help! I don't want to burden you, but I'd appreciate any recommendations about books/ cds that are useful

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-07-15 23:29:33 +0000 UTC]

I don't think it is too strange for a girl to want to be entertained by a Geisha. Their purpose is that of art, not sex, therefore their is nothing too strange for a girl to want to be entertained by Geisha. Although in Japan women do not typically go out to tea-houses and see Geisha. I think it's great you are so enthralled by the art that is Geisha.

Yes... Samurai are quite fascinating. The martial arts used by the Samurai were probably the most effective of all the combat techniques prior to firearms. Everything about Samurai fascinates me, from their fighting technique, to their poetry, to their noble ethic. It's all just so amazing to me.

I can tell you're a "to the death" kind of fighter. Watch out for "The Hippy of Doom"! She is a jujutsu master!!

I think that's one of my main attractions to Japan as well. The fact that everything is just so different from the west. Everytime I see anything in Japan become more like the west it makes me cringe. I don't want Japan to become more like the west.

Mabey you and I should go on a Ninja mission to Japan and assasinate all those who want Japan more westernized. I think your "To the death" technique would be perfect for this kind of mission.

Aw... yes, Spirited Away is such an awesome movie. I love that movie, especially in Japanese.

It would not be a burden to help you out with learning Japanese at all. It would be a pleasure to help out anyway I can. I have a language audio cd program that I have been working with for the last 5 months that has been really great, it's called, "Instant Immersion: Japanese". It's been a really good program for me. If you would like I could make copies of the cd's and send them to you if you are interested. Are you interested in learning the written language also? If so I have some good resource for you to look into in that area as well.

mata ne!

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-07-16 17:37:59 +0000 UTC]

Lol i definitely want to see them for the art not the sex! I mean women go to see ballets, so I shouldn't imagine seeing a geisha dance is purely for men. I was surprised to learn from Iwasaki's book that women do attend teahouses, though they are usually wives of customers.

The nobility of the Japanese is amazing, especially since it is found in every aspect of their culture, which is quite unique. If I did get to go to Japan, I would be terrified about offending them due to their many traditions. LMAO at the 'jujutsu master'!

I hate the westernisation of Japan and other Oriental countries too. I was watching Empire of the Sun last night and the fact there was an English style mansion in China infuriated me. I would love to live in a house with sliding doors and intricately designed gardens. Though ideally, I'd love a pagoda, as they are earthquake proof!

I would really appreciate those CDs, and I really do want to learn the written language. Today I downloaded the sample of the rosetta stone language thing, and have had fun learning really *basic* stuff... like otokono, otokonohito, zoo, uma, neko, hikooki... things like that. But yes I really would like to expand. My e-mail address is rock_the_casbah371@hotmail.com if you want to e-mail me from now on so I can send my address and be able to pay you through paypal and stuff

mata ne!

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Myrani [2006-05-15 03:12:42 +0000 UTC]

Oooooh...... I wish I had a kimono like that....... Actually... I just wish I had a kimono...... Great job! I love the detail! I'm not one who's so patient for detail.... so I like seeing other peoples! ^^ Very nice!

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RobDog187 In reply to Myrani [2006-05-15 13:59:54 +0000 UTC]

arigatou gozaimasu! Thank you for the comment! I wish I could have put more detail into it but I think it turned out well. Thanks again!

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Rondador-Nocturno [2006-04-27 09:19:12 +0000 UTC]

I love This draw, especially KimonoΒ΄s details....GOOD JOB!!

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RobDog187 In reply to Rondador-Nocturno [2006-04-27 14:06:30 +0000 UTC]

Arigato gozaimasu!!! I appreciate the postive comment very much.

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Rondador-Nocturno In reply to RobDog187 [2006-04-27 21:13:50 +0000 UTC]

DonΒ΄t mention it. ^^

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hippyofdoom [2006-04-13 08:55:25 +0000 UTC]

Coool! I love kimonos and that looks beautiful!

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-04-14 04:19:34 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the great comment. I just hope someday my work could be as beautifully drawn as yours are.

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-05-04 09:46:21 +0000 UTC]

Aww I'm sure your work will, because this is stunning!

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-05-04 14:20:44 +0000 UTC]

arigatou gozaimasu, I appreciate the flattering comment. I am hugely interested in Japanese Language and culture. Especially "Traditional Japan", Geisha, Samurai, tea cerimony, etc. Once again, thank you!

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-05-20 19:40:30 +0000 UTC]

Oooh no problem! I've always loved things of the orient, and have really gotten obsessed with Japan in the past few months. I prefer traditional Japan too... I'd love a house with the sliding doors and tatami mats and futons and lovely gardens... why would anyone want anything any different?

I reeeeeeaaally want to speak Japanese... I don't know anything useful... but i do know 'ohesotte nani'.

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RobDog187 In reply to hippyofdoom [2006-05-20 22:12:05 +0000 UTC]

I agree... I am currently studying Japanese and I plan on moving to Japan in 2008. I'm going to live there and teach English. I'm sooo excited to go.
Here is a good place to start. "ohayou gozaimasu" = good morning. "konnichiwa" = good afternoon. "konbanwa" = good evening. Those are three greetings used in Japan. Good ones to know. I, as always, look forword to seeing more of your work. You probably know this one, "sayounara" = good bye (formal)

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hippyofdoom In reply to RobDog187 [2006-05-21 18:10:22 +0000 UTC]

Oh wow! That's sounds so cool! I wish I could say I have definite plans to do something like that with my life, but I lack so much motivation!

Thanks for the help with Japanese I already vaguely knew 'konnichiwa' and 'sayounara', but I can't wait to show off their precise meanings, as well as the other greetings! Thanks sooo much!

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G3isha [2006-04-13 08:21:08 +0000 UTC]

lol, I looove geishas....
Beautiful drawing, I like the details on her kimono. Are you going to colour this one or run it through the computer?
It would look awesome!!!

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RobDog187 In reply to G3isha [2006-04-14 04:22:27 +0000 UTC]

Yes... Geisha are so beautiful and the history surrounding them is just astonishing.
I'm very glad you like it. I've already inked it and am currently in the process of coloring it in Photoshop. I've very excited to finish it.
Arigato gozaimasu!!

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Fastfood [2006-04-04 16:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that's very cool, great pic!

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RobDog187 In reply to Fastfood [2006-04-05 00:33:43 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the comment... it's very much apreciated.

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