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MisteryEevee In reply to rika-dono [2016-03-10 23:40:55 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I can see what you mean. It's like VOCALOID has this design philosophy that everyone "should follow" and it kind of leads in the same direction. But now that I think about it, she kind of doesn't have something to make her stand out from the rest. I suppose they were trying to take an ordinary everyday outfit and make it iconic, like how Miku's is a school uniform but much more futuristic-like. But that's kind of what puts me off. Trying to counter Miku is a fine idea, but it's not always going to work out (good idea on paper, but not executed right). She's simply too overly popular and trying to too hard to make a design that's inspired or countering her can risk being overlooked. :/ Like you said before, Ruby is Latina and building off her ethnicity further probably would have made her more eyecatching. But there's also the part when Misha wanted Ruby to represent her hometown too (Bronx, NY), but... if I'm being honest, she doesn't exactly scream New York to me very much. I've never been to the Bronx before, but that's the thing: She looks like any other person out there that it's kind of hard to look at her and immediately think of Bronx or New York. Northern part of the USA, sure, but not a specific exact region like Northwest or Northeast. :/
I am unhappy to admit that I was one of the people who jumped the gun and got angry at PFX. I really want to go back and punch myself in the face for it. The design was fine in my opinion. I guess what really got me was that, like everyone else who was pissed, we assumed that PFX deliberately "white-washed" Ruby or that they received her concepts beforehand. I don't think it really helped that we got to see design concepts that depicted her with darker skin in the past. I think, if i never saw the concepts, then I probably wouldn't have reacted in such a way. At this point, I just feel bad. Everyone lashed out at PFX just because of bad communication between company, relay, and developers. And even in the present, it's still bad. PFX never received the final boxart from the developers and hastily made their own (which was poorly constructed). But ever since the whole design fiasco over the summer, I stopped following Ruby's development and aftermath because of too much drama. I'm waiting for things to cool off so I can try looking again.
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rika-dono In reply to MisteryEevee [2016-03-11 01:06:22 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, even for me she doesn't have that USA/Latina feeling.
I was thinking of maybe working on the official design to make it more "punchy" 'cause there are very simple and easy way to make the design more unique.
And indeed, stating the design was an attempt to counter Miku was just, I'm sorry to say it but ridiculous. Miku is the most popular Vocaloid ever and is Worldwide Known with millions of fans. I even know peoples who doesn't know who Miku Hatsune or what a Vocaloid is but still knows her appearance.
Because she have a simple yet effective concept, put into an actual working design, it works.
To my taste, Ruby has too many elements already presents on other OFFICIAL vocaloids, not even talking of the other companies.
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MisteryEevee In reply to rika-dono [2016-03-11 02:25:23 +0000 UTC]
I think it should have been more important to focus on making her stand out from not only Miku, but from every other VOCALOID as well... or even better, simply just English VOCALOIDs. English is the second largest language available to VOCALOID and that's what Ruby is, an English-only VOCALOID. I just think it's a bit too risky to try to focus on countering a popular Japanese VOCALOID like Miku when Ruby does not have a Japanese voicebank. She's not exactly targeted towards Japanese fans. :/ I think it's more important to get English VOCALOIDs in general more noticed. And while the fandom may like her design, musicians from the outside care more about the voice in the end. Even if the design is absolutely stunning, if the musician doesn't like her voice or think it's a hassle to use the voicebank, then they just don't use it. So far, Avanna and Oliver have songs that have 1 million views and that's an achievement for English VOCALOIDs. And some of Oliver's 1 mil hits don't use his design in the pvs at all ("Tarantula" is one that did though, but the others were made by people who aren't in the VOCALOID fandom), so to musicians, the designs don't play a big role. Now, I don't want to say a design "is not important", I still think they are. After all, Zero-G ended up requesting Dex and Daina's ears and tails to be removed so they don't put off people who don't like it, but they still focused on the development of the voicebanks and to maintain the fandom's interest in the characters.
I think what I'm trying to say is, you can have a good design, but it's also important to pay a lot of attention to the voicebank itself too. A good voicebank for every musician and producer to use, and a good design to appeal to fans, the fandom, and as a bonus to the musician if they bought the physical copy (something nice to look at, heh heh)
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Image--Nation [2015-11-27 00:32:32 +0000 UTC]
Although I enjoy Ruby's final design, I have to say I like the one you created more. It has more personality, I feel.
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P-Chan93 [2015-09-14 20:31:53 +0000 UTC]
will you try draw Ruby now since her design is out?
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rika-dono In reply to P-Chan93 [2015-09-14 20:34:49 +0000 UTC]
No, to be frank, I'm dissapointed on her final design.
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P-Chan93 In reply to rika-dono [2015-09-14 20:38:34 +0000 UTC]
oh? im curious,what you dont like about the design?
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rika-dono In reply to P-Chan93 [2015-09-14 20:42:55 +0000 UTC]
Too casual, no identity.
There already are vocaloid with similar designs, wished they had kept working on the one commissioned by pfx.
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rika-dono In reply to Lunarlay [2015-09-01 00:39:52 +0000 UTC]
I actually really liked the one PFX had commisioned that was showed at AnimeExpo ( I'm looking for the artist behind this ), it needed some lil' changes but it was more like : " yeah ! A new kind of Vocaloid ! " but we just got the same stereotype again instead.
Wished they had gone for someting more original. If the plan was to counter-miku as someone said, it's a big failure. In the end, the final version of Ruby is gonna be forgotten soon.
With a jacket and belt of some sort we also have : Yuzuki Yukari, Gumi Append, Galaco ... and the most similar of them : Sonika.
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Lunarlay In reply to rika-dono [2015-09-01 09:47:26 +0000 UTC]
Woah,you are the second person who said they liked the PFX design since everyone hates it.I mean,ye maybe there was some miscommunication but the hate on the design is just unnescessary.I dont know if people even realize how rude they are since there was obviously a person who worked hard on the drawing/3d model.People who say they like the PFX ruby also get alot of hate etc.,its kinda sad
On side note,THAT design was original,so,yes I agree XD
Oh yea...
Well i think the vocaloid design process is like 'pick an outfit and add some sparkles and glowing stuff + headphones' so they probably didnt realize it themselves lol
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rika-dono In reply to Lunarlay [2015-09-01 10:37:18 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I don't get it either, there is on this very deviation someone who almost insulted me because I said I didn't like the final design.
I don't even get what they're angry for. The saveruby thing was useless, it's not like it changed anything. It's not up to us to decide the design in the very beginning.
If they're happy then they stay and if they're not then they go, it's that simple.
So far the only vocaloid which I think have an original design that drives away from what we saw a million times are MEW, Mayu and Sweet Ann Taiwanese version.
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FallenNights [2015-08-23 16:37:40 +0000 UTC]
Owo You should draw this again with Ruby's official design. *-*
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rika-dono In reply to FallenNights [2015-08-23 17:47:55 +0000 UTC]
She got an official design in the end ?
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rika-dono In reply to FallenNights [2015-08-26 01:39:12 +0000 UTC]
So her final design is yet another teen who look like a mix of rin and luka with toned skin ? ... I'm dissappointed.
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FallenNights In reply to rika-dono [2015-08-29 23:07:23 +0000 UTC]
She's meant to counter Miku/ the cryptons. .-.
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rika-dono In reply to FallenNights [2015-08-29 23:11:36 +0000 UTC]
She's too banal and unoriginal to counter Miku.
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FallenNights In reply to rika-dono [2015-08-30 17:00:22 +0000 UTC]
unoriginal? Tell me how many fucking HISPANIC dark skinned VOCALOIDS we have, with a High pitched ENGLISH voicebank, eh? (Let alone a hispanic Anime Character)
Maika and those other shit Spainloids and MERLI don't count.
not to mention your icon is literally her with lighter skin and different colored eyes.
And Miku is literally Sailor Moon with Blue hair and a future version of a basic ass Japanese school uniform.
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rika-dono In reply to FallenNights [2015-08-31 00:01:40 +0000 UTC]
If they wanted to counter miku they should have gone for something more "grandiose", you said it yourself there aren't many hispanic vocaloid, they should have taken the occasion to make something big out of it or completely different and implement a new genre of vocaloid.
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FallenNights In reply to rika-dono [2015-08-31 00:16:30 +0000 UTC]
She's literally created by Misha and Syo ALONE. literally Misha was "they" so blame misha.
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rika-dono In reply to FallenNights [2015-08-31 00:47:51 +0000 UTC]
I'm not blaming anyone I'm just saying my opinion and you seem to take it personally. If you don't agree then you don't agree, no need to be so rude.
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StarCat13 [2015-08-17 01:07:53 +0000 UTC]
My two favorite vocaloids in one picture....this is amazing
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Pluvian [2015-03-29 05:26:59 +0000 UTC]
Very nice!
Still really love your CYBER DIVA design. <3
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DeadCobra [2015-03-28 20:16:42 +0000 UTC]
Very nice
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TopoLab [2015-03-28 18:18:55 +0000 UTC]
Very cool!
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seraphimon321 [2015-03-28 09:57:02 +0000 UTC]
Great designs! Love them!
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A-Dubble [2015-03-28 03:42:59 +0000 UTC]
Excellent character design. I would love to draw like that at some point.
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YOSEILY [2015-03-28 03:06:15 +0000 UTC]
YOUR DRAWINGS ARE NOT THAT ONE THAT I LOVE!!
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Image--Nation [2015-03-28 01:34:43 +0000 UTC]
They look so cool~
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eagle-elf [2015-03-28 01:17:17 +0000 UTC]
... Ruby is not chubby here, in any form of the word. I wouldn't even call her curvy. More like average/healthy, while Diva is skinny.
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Oomles In reply to eagle-elf [2015-03-28 05:22:42 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad I'm not the only one here thinking that. She isn't chubby in the slightest...
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ib00n [2015-03-28 00:14:46 +0000 UTC]
You rlly like Diva huh-
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Haneoka [2015-03-28 00:14:44 +0000 UTC]
hell yeah hell yeah!! This is soo good. This is what I imagine Ruby's design to be!! Great job!
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