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feldrand [2019-09-30 10:25:39 +0000 UTC]

this is what i liked from the beginning, when i first found your art: the livelyness you put in your paintings - great work!

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Renum63 In reply to feldrand [2019-12-18 18:56:59 +0000 UTC]

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theferretman21 [2018-07-13 19:45:43 +0000 UTC]

Wait, I thought female Caribou have antlers...

Anyways it's a great painting!

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Renum63 In reply to theferretman21 [2018-08-18 14:40:41 +0000 UTC]

Sure they have but most of the females have dropped them before spring migration. The interesting thing is that while the males drop their antlers already during late autumn females carry theirs throughout the winter (more or less). Perhaps giving them an advantage against the bulls when food is scarce.

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theferretman21 In reply to Renum63 [2018-08-18 15:53:55 +0000 UTC]

Oh, well, that's pretty cool! Thanks for the fact!

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namu-the-orca [2016-02-27 11:15:41 +0000 UTC]

Hah, business as 'usual', until you realise those are reindeer in the background I like the sense of motion you got into the whole herd of reindeer. How do you go about painting a large group of animals like this? Do you paint everyone individually or do you recycle/paint over some? Also, these were cave lions? (just reading it in the comments) Where did they live? I don't think I know much, if anything, about these animals.

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Renum63 In reply to namu-the-orca [2016-02-28 09:32:32 +0000 UTC]

Β 
It varies...While I'm sketching I may duplicate a part of a painting several times to build up the composition faster, but on the final layer I normally paint the details one by one. Sometimes I remove the underlying layers, but I can also leave them to add volume to the painting if the paint on the finishing layer is very thin. The character of my paintings comes from the fact that I build up them by using very thin layers of paint on top of each other, pretty much the same way I paint traditionally (or the same way the "old masters" did). The piece is still more or less just an idea, I will probably update it at some point.

Cave lions...it's disputed whether they where the same species as ( or a subspecies of) the extant lion or a separate species (or several) with subspecies, like the American lion. This or that, bunched under the name of cave lion they were very widespread, ranging from Great Britain through Europe and Asia to North America. During the Ice Age even the subarctic region, regarding its fauna, was quite like African savannas...

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namu-the-orca In reply to Renum63 [2016-03-10 11:04:29 +0000 UTC]

That actually sounds like a great idea, to duplicate parts to get a solid base, but keep everyone different by painting the details individually. So how do you paint very thin layers digitally? Do you create new (photoshop) layers for every new layer of thin paint you put over the whole piece? Or do you just work very softly and lightly every time you visit a part of your piece?

Aha, thanks for the info on these guys Quite amazing how widespread they were, especially since nowadays we tend to associate big cats mostly with tropical regions. Do you know why they disappeared from such large parts of their range?

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Renum63 In reply to namu-the-orca [2016-03-28 09:43:01 +0000 UTC]

I have never used Photoshop so I really don't know how it works (although I think it looks quite complicated) and thus can't compare. Anyway, I'm an ArtRage user, and it may be a bit different, more simple at least. ArtRage mimics traditional painting so painting thin layers is done exactly the same way, by adding thinner in the paint (you can't do that in Photoshop?). I may at first apply paint with heavier body so that the canvas doesn't shine through (if I don't wan't that effect) and then start painting thinner layers on top of that base to make the passages softer. Even in ArtRage the brushstrokes can have a bit artificial look so I normally work away the (too sharp) edges by either using a palette knife or just adding light touches with a narrower brush. Basically I can do this on a single layer (it's faster too) but I often create a new layer as I proceed with the painting, to avoid destroying the part of the painting I'm already pleased with. When I'm sure it looks good I merge the new layer(s) down on the previous one. Then create a new layer and so forth. Of course, for thin layers of paint, I can also adjust the opacity of a whole layer afterwards, if I wish.

As for why the lion disappeared from most of it's range, it's still disputed. Hard to believe that modern man haven't played a part in the process, directly and indirectly. Naturally, changes in the climate also had an impact, no doubt, but on the other hand, lions, like many other species now extinct, had survived similar changes before.

I haven't checked yet the links AnonymousLlama428 kindly provides us with. I'm sure they are interesting reeding.

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AnonymousLlama428 In reply to namu-the-orca [2016-03-15 21:16:56 +0000 UTC]

I imagine Mr Bjorklund knows more than I, but I have a good idea too.
It appears that a combination of climate change and competition from other predators all had their role to play. I've actually written quite a bit on the cat, though I am not an expert:
www.quora.com/Lions/How-come-t…
www.quora.com/Whats-your-favor…
www.quora.com/What-are-the-dif…
Last year, two frozen cubs were discovered:
news.nationalgeographic.com/20…

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TheAsianGuyLOL [2016-02-21 08:45:14 +0000 UTC]

I almost though they were African lions lol. Nice job .

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Renum63 In reply to TheAsianGuyLOL [2016-02-24 14:23:08 +0000 UTC]

Β Thanks.

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rmctagg09 [2016-02-21 05:12:37 +0000 UTC]

Took me a second to realize these were cave lions until I noticed they were hunting caribou.Β 

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Renum63 In reply to rmctagg09 [2016-02-24 14:22:23 +0000 UTC]

Β All the animals we have (still...) around today lived during the Ice Age, so it's the combinations of animals that makes it so special.

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HUBLERDON [2016-02-20 19:55:09 +0000 UTC]

Would be SO AWSOME to see these guys in action!

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Renum63 In reply to HUBLERDON [2016-02-24 14:15:44 +0000 UTC]

Yes, think about that. It would be pretty cool to have them chasing reindeers in northern Finland. Reindeer keepers already hate wolves and wolverines, so I wonder how they would react...

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HUBLERDON In reply to Renum63 [2016-02-24 14:52:02 +0000 UTC]

Cave lions are the largest big cat known. They'd be terrified.Β 

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KaprosuchusDragon In reply to HUBLERDON [2016-02-28 12:48:18 +0000 UTC]

panthera atrox was a bit bigger and there is an even larger exctinc african lion

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HUBLERDON In reply to KaprosuchusDragon [2016-02-28 20:58:08 +0000 UTC]

Oh, cool! Megafauna was weird back then....

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KaprosuchusDragon In reply to HUBLERDON [2016-02-29 06:17:00 +0000 UTC]

yup

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AnonymousLlama428 [2016-02-20 13:41:29 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful!

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Renum63 In reply to AnonymousLlama428 [2016-02-20 15:12:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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bhut [2016-02-20 13:18:34 +0000 UTC]

In other words, someone got eaten?

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Renum63 In reply to bhut [2016-02-20 15:13:16 +0000 UTC]

Well, someone has to be the food...

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