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Description What is the standard by which we judge something is wrong? Some say, "it's defined by the law". Others say, "it's wrong if it hurts others". But by that logic, what can we say about people who are hurting themselves? It's their choice, but what a lot of people don't seem to get is that many so-called "victimless" acts actually do end up doing harm, to themselves and others.

There are a lot of things out there these days that we're being required to accept or even respect. Stuff like incest, unhealthy fetishes, self-injury, 'unacted upon' paraphilia like zoophilia and pedophilia, and other things. I say, we shouldn't have to.

Does that mean we should get an asshattery permit and should tell people what they can and can't do? Or berate them for doing what they do? No, but it doesn't mean we should have to keep silent about our views on it, either.

One person's "awwwright" is another person's "you've got serious problems and need help". Do we all have to keep silent? I say, as long as the "awwwright" person is broadcasting their shit, the "you need help" person should be able to broadcast as well.


What about the 17 year old, confused teenage girl who, unaware, seeks attention because she was neglected or suffocated by her parents? She goes to parties every weekend and drunkenly sleeps with tons of others, many who use and abuse her. But she doesn't care, she's having fun. She is the drunken party girl, who does anything and everything - unaware that some day she will be unable to look at her own reflection, regretting every night of her youth. Some argue defensively, "it's a woman's choice to sleep with whomever she wants!" but where is the person who really cares, and says "she is hurting herself. Someone should tell her that what she's doing is wrong"?


Or what about the 46 year old father of four who sits alone every night in front of the computer in his basement on deviantART because his obsession with his unhealthy fetish has consumed his life? He ignores his lonely, heartbroken wife of 20 years and never sees his kids. They miss the father they once had, not this grungy, distracted, shell of a man who smells slightly of urine. He has no friends in real life, but has an abundance of health issues because of his life in a computer chair. Some argue, "leave fetish lovers alone, they're not hurting anyone!" but where is the person who really cares, and says "he is hurting himself. Someone should tell him that what he's doing is wrong"?
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Licca-ChanFTW [2022-12-12 09:56:55 +0000 UTC]

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ViewerOfTheNewWorld [2022-10-27 03:14:41 +0000 UTC]

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momoiroakira [2022-05-15 03:53:47 +0000 UTC]

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momoiroakira [2022-05-08 15:02:36 +0000 UTC]

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hellosur6464 [2021-08-21 21:11:32 +0000 UTC]

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JR-verse [2020-11-28 20:54:46 +0000 UTC]

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spookpone [2020-08-23 12:51:59 +0000 UTC]

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Robotic-Mind [2020-05-07 15:57:56 +0000 UTC]

you're like those boomers who say video games cause violence

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TwiddleTwist [2019-12-19 11:13:32 +0000 UTC]

You make a good point, not gonna lie here.Β 
Just be careful when you assume someone is supposedly "hurting themselves" when there's a chance they live healthy lives.
But I find this message somewhat considerate.

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Katzarekatz [2019-11-22 22:59:40 +0000 UTC]

This applies to the whole "disagreeing with homosexuality" trojan horse.

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ZevachnoStudio [2019-03-19 01:55:37 +0000 UTC]

When I think of this I don't think about what you said because they DO hurt others. I think of this quote when it comes to LGBT rights or the whole love is love concept.Β 

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MakeMoralsGreatAgain [2019-02-10 23:29:12 +0000 UTC]

Agreed! I’m tired of this perverted world using excuses to normalize and spread their degeneracy. It doesn’t have to hurt someone to be immoral.Β 

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ViewerOfTheNewWorld In reply to MakeMoralsGreatAgain [2022-10-27 03:17:14 +0000 UTC]

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sampea In reply to MakeMoralsGreatAgain [2019-04-23 03:29:58 +0000 UTC]

How do you define "immoral", then?

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NightmarishWarlord [2018-12-02 22:11:30 +0000 UTC]

well that's your problem

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ILTDESIGNS [2018-10-23 01:48:14 +0000 UTC]

It really just depends on" what" is being called wrong.
You just have to use your judgement wisely

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91108293 [2018-08-14 08:32:43 +0000 UTC]

*cough* septiplier *cough*

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RedStarMaster7 [2018-05-29 21:19:32 +0000 UTC]

*cough*shippings!*cough*

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NickolasName [2018-05-12 05:48:08 +0000 UTC]

I love how you're talking about how things can be wrong without harming others and just one example in you're back to talking about something that hurts others.

Also the stamp is misleading, because hurting yourself, which is what this stamp is talking about, is still "hurting anyone", because "anyone" includes yourself.

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pudgelover2 [2017-11-10 02:03:02 +0000 UTC]

I try to tell this to the fat fetishists all the fucking time.

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RiskyPaper [2017-07-06 15:26:30 +0000 UTC]

And the backlash people receive for telling others to get help is alarming.

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the-little-seagull [2017-05-22 03:08:04 +0000 UTC]

Tell that to people who think fictionkin is harmless

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MagicSpyglass [2017-03-25 15:21:45 +0000 UTC]

So many people are misunderstanding this message!

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KannibalSnakeSAMXIII [2017-02-07 18:17:20 +0000 UTC]

Using!

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Shadow-Glassen [2017-02-01 06:54:44 +0000 UTC]

Using.

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SentientGlitch [2016-11-13 20:09:29 +0000 UTC]

I feel pain looking through these comments.

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CreepyPastaGurl1025 [2016-07-17 20:02:57 +0000 UTC]

It may seem wrong to some people but, you don't have to be a jerk

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hypersonic6 [2016-07-06 11:19:53 +0000 UTC]

So many idiots in the comments that don't get the point of this stamp.

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splatter789 [2016-05-07 00:05:09 +0000 UTC]

"Or what about the 46 year old father of four who sits alone every night in front of the computer in his basement on deviantART because his obsession with his unhealthy fetish has consumed his life? He ignores his lonely, heartbroken wife of 20 years and never sees his kids. They miss the father they once had, not this grungy, distracted, shell of a man who smells slightly of urine. He has no friends in real life, but has an abundance of health issues because of his life in a computer chair. Some argue, "leave fetish lovers alone, they're not hurting anyone!" but where is the person whoΒ reallyΒ cares, and says "he is hurting himself. Someone should tell him that what he's doing is wrong"?

dont hurt yourself with that reach

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-05-24 14:41:41 +0000 UTC]

Went WAY over your head...

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-05-25 22:56:12 +0000 UTC]

explain it to me then. i want to understand how one or two examples of a fetish hurting someone invalidates the many examples of people enjoying fetishes and genuinely not hurting anyone, not even themselves. i want to understand how a few examples of people taking it too far with a fetish invalidate entire communities of people who simply enjoy the fetish in their free time, and only with people who consent to fetish play. i want to understand, so explain it to me.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-05-30 01:42:54 +0000 UTC]

Answer me this, why is it against the law to not wear a seat belt?

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-05-30 03:07:33 +0000 UTC]

seat belt laws are in place to make sure that the driver of a car and any passengers survive in the event of a car crash, but no, you're not going to give me a bullshit comparison between fetishes and seat belt laws. someone having a genuinely harmless fetish where all parties are consenting to everything involved and no lasting damage is done other than a bruise or smth is nothing like not wearing a seat belt, where you could be paralyzed, fall into a coma, or fucking DIE. give me one case where someone has died from a fetish.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-05-30 03:39:02 +0000 UTC]

You missed my point. what I'm saying is whether you where a seat-belt or not, you can die from a head on crash. But they tell you to wear a seat belt to what? Lessen that chance. They are telling you to do something with your body to protect you, cause you don't always know what is best for your body. But no, most people with a fetish let it take control of them, to the point where it can kill them. Ever heard of Erotic asphyxiation(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_a… )? Having a fetish isn't bad, devoting yourself to that fetish tho, makes you a horny lolcow. A fetish is something that turns someone one. So to devote your life to that fetish is no better than a person whoring them out themselves.

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-05-30 04:01:16 +0000 UTC]

erotic asphyxiation is a form of breathplay, which, in a safe, ideal environment, is practiced with a partner who knows what they're doing, and a safeword would be used to make sure no harm is done. likewise, in safe ideal environments, fetishes are practiced with people who know what they are doing, and a safeword established in case someone needs to stop at any point. sure, if people take it too far, it can be harmful, but as a whole, having a fetish is not dangerous or harmful

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-05-30 05:12:00 +0000 UTC]

You missed the point of the stamp and my replies, the whole point is that having a fetish is not dangerous or harmful, devoting yourself to it IS.

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-05-30 17:09:30 +0000 UTC]

the stamp is written in a way that shames people with fetishes, saying that even if it's not hurting ANYONE, it's still wrong, so i don't think that was the point of the stamp.Β 

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-05-31 03:58:11 +0000 UTC]

if it's not hurting ANYONE. Notice he never said, if it's not hurting YOU.

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-05-31 04:13:06 +0000 UTC]

YOU are part of ANYONE. ANYONE includes YOU. so if it's not hurting ANYONE, that means, by definition, it's not hurting YOU. i don't get the problem with a fetish that legitimately doesn't hurt ANYONE.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-06-02 08:27:31 +0000 UTC]

Huh....hm, well think of it like this, pedophilia...bad right? But pedophilia isn't child molester yet it's still wrong tho.

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-02 13:22:05 +0000 UTC]

that's because pedophilia harms people. pedophilia harms children by making it seem acceptable to make sexual advances on them, but your average fetish, such as breathplay, bdsm, etc. does not do anything like that.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-06-04 01:43:28 +0000 UTC]

True. But then you have fetishes such as rape fetishes or scat fetishes.

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-05 00:46:03 +0000 UTC]

scat fetishes, while gross, generally don't harm the people partaking in them when practiced in an environment that is sterilized afterwards and no one is eating shit. rape fetishes are one of the rare fetishes that can be harmful.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-06-05 02:03:20 +0000 UTC]

A scat fetish is just unhealthy...there is no way around it...

Oh lets not forget the AIDs/HIV fetish.

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-06 03:39:05 +0000 UTC]

Pretty sure an HIV/AIDS fetish isn't a real thing.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-06-06 21:57:10 +0000 UTC]

You must still have faith in humanity...

answers.yahoo.com/question/ind…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasi…

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-07 06:41:59 +0000 UTC]

Looking at the wikipedia page, I don't think that a lot of "bugchasers" are trying to get themselves infected for entirely fetishistic reasons. The wiki mentioned that it could also be a form of self harm, or that they could be doing it out of intimacy, as fucked up as that is.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to splatter789 [2016-06-14 07:37:35 +0000 UTC]

But you'd be surprise if they were?

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splatter789 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-15 01:53:38 +0000 UTC]

Eh, maybe.

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