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Ice Climbers!!Please note, these guys are not playable characters in the current SSB4 as far as I know.
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Well, stop remembering them, because they are back in the fray!
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Had to share this, and credited you too.
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Thanks! I remember you mentioning Ice Climbers were a character if the month thing ^^
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Very nice. Would you be interested in donating your talents to a Smash Bros. project.
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How did you make this!?!
How did they pass the technical limitations?!?
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But only for WiiU cause they were cut because they can't be on the 3DS version.. :/
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As do I.
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Can't see Lucas if he isn't made yet.
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i see you redid the ice climbers,why didnt you use the old one?
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I didn't like it?
Upside down characters are no good
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they were saposed to be, but were removed cos the developers ran into technical limitations on the 3DS that prevented them from being added, and since the Wii-U version is saposed to have the same roster...
that sead there's always hope for DLC... thoth thay'ed probobly have to be programed so that they can't be used in 8 player Smash mode
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Or change them to just one ice climber/a solo fighter like everyone else. Popo would be the default with nana as an alt. it's possible
EDIT: also it had nothing to do with 8 player smash. The wii u could handle them just fine. The 3ds has to produce the same image twice in order to create the 3d. With 4 players playing at once it'd be 16 ice climbers. That and it might also be similar to how transforming was removed. The 3ds just couldn't handle the double fighter routine
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I think having the Ice Climbers changed to just be a single Ice Climber would defeat the point of the Ice Climers and make the community upset. Not to mencon it would be a lot of extra work to make a single ice climber viable & balanced
also 8 player smash imposes a lot of restrictions, disabling a lot of the extra background stuff for a lot of the stages in order to compensate for 8 players. (hence why it's not online enabled), not to mencon if the ice climers were allowed in 8 player smash that would be 16 caricters (8 X 2 = 16) at 1se that the game has to render and keep track of at 1se)
if they could get Ice Climbers to work in 8 player smash with no real issues then more power to the developers, but I'm just saying if having the ice climbers added as DLC meant banning them from 8 player smash, that would a compromise I'd be willing to live with
Oh, and BTW it was already confumed that 3DS limitations were why transforming was removed [thoth I wod'nt be surprised if custom moves also played a small hand in that]
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It's also been confirmed that it was the 3ds limitations that took out the ice climbers. 8 player smash was never said to have anything to do with it, plus it might've actually been able to handle the 16 players. They can never be dlc for smash 4 as a duo because it's to late to fix the hardware limitations. There's always smash 5 (even though sakurai said there may not be one Nintendo won't just stop doing one of their biggest cash cows. They could do it without him or he could get sucked back into it)
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Thay could never be DLC for the 3DS version, but there's nothing stopping them from making the Ice Climbers Wii-U only DLC. Yes Sakurai sead the 2 games would have the same roster, but he never spacafyefyed that would apply to DLC as well, and sakurai has a reputation of chageing his mind a lot. Combine that with the fact that a lot of the work to implement Ice Climbers as playable caricters has already been done, and that makes the odd's of them eventually being DLC very high
As for sakurai not making Smash 5, he also sead that Brawl would be his final Smash game after that game came out, but he came back for Smash 4, also he never sead for certen that he wod'nt come back to work on Smash 5 when the time came, just that he MIGHT not, besides sakurai has a reputation of chageing his mind a lot, so if I had to guess I'd say the odds's that he'll come back for Smash 5 are 85-90%
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Wrong. DLC is part of the roster so Ice Climbers won't be in as exclusives.
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If that's your opinion fine, but in my opinion
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Like you, I respect yours.
IMO Although one could say DLC doesn't count, another would disagree since Sakurai did say the roster will be the same. The only exclusives come from game modes and stages, making exclusive fighters takes too much time and money to do. IC won't return this time seeing how they have little priority for returning and having effort thrown to have both games feature the same roster.
BTW from what I read about "No more DLC", M2 was originally part of the final but it wasn't done yet and seeing how delaying the game wasn't a good idea, it became DLC though it's more of an experiment. Sakurai has changed his mind once (Story in SSB4) but he isn't a DLC fan. He knows DLC will benefit Smash but he also knows about possible backlash about DLC in Smash.
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well, here's the thing, they already did quite a bit of work on the Ice Climbers when they discovered they coud'nt get them to work on the 3DS version and dus scraped them. So to implament the ice climbers into the Wii U version would only require they finish that data, and from what I hear they were functional enough to work in some capacity in the Wii-U version, so if that's true it wouldn't be THAT much extra effort to add them in.
hackers have discovered an entire DLC store in the games files, and an unused button for an extra page of caricters in the 3DS version, this tells me that there using Mewtwo as a test, if he dos well, and is received positively, they'll eventually do more DLC for Smash 4, if not, Mewtwo will be the last caricter added to the game.
as for backlash, if they were to explain why Ice Climers were Wii-U exclusive and gave them out for cheap (if not free) as a result, I don't think to meany people would mind
or if they reely wanted to be safe they could maybe even could make it up to the 3DS owners by saying if you get Ice Climbers for the Wii-U, you'll be able to download sevrol free stages for the 3DS version (probobly mostly 1's that are already in the Wii-U modafyed slightly for 3DS optimization) and those who download those stages will get Ice climbers free on Wii-U
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I know about IC working on the Wii U but seeing how every fighter has been announced and has footage from both version, there's NO exclusive fighters.
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right now, but we don't know how there going to handle DLC beyond Mewtwo, and since IC can't be made to work on the 3DS and there are a lot of people who want them in Smash 4, they might make an exipson for IC. Besides, not implementing IC in some way shape or form basically means that they did all that work on them for nothing
If I had to take a guess as to the odds's of IC being DLC I'd say, if Mewtwo is a sicsess, 75-85%
If Mewtwo is a failure {and I find it heard to beleave that he would be] 5%, and only cos of how developed thay already are
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It's already been said through an interview but it's unlikely but IMO no DLC is no big deal. They're already looking at both sides but seeing how it'll cost additional money AND people for more stuff, I kinda don't see it happening and nowadays, I'm not totally into extra fighters and so do a bunch.
Also there was an interview about IC's absence and Sakurai explained that they won't be in SSB4. 3DS limitations held its return and exclusive fighters had been deconfirmed. And even if the DLC experiment is a success, we'll probably not get many fighters and I said this earlier, costs for more money and people.
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Hackers have discovered an unsused button on the Caricter saleict screen in the 3DS version that opens up a 2ed page of caricters, and they've also discovered an entire currently unused DLC store in the game's files, this tells me that if Mewtwo is secsessfol there will be defently be more DLC caricters, outerwise they wod'nt go out of there way to program those things into the game
As for IC, that dos'nt garentee anything, IC already have a good chunk of there programming set up meaning that it would be easer to finish them then build a new caricter from scratch, a lot of people want Ice Climbers to come back, so there pritty much garenteed to sell (provided they didn't do something sleazy or stupid with them) and even if they can only be Wii-U exclusive, they can always make it up to 3DS owners in some other way (ex. buy Ice Climbers for Wii-U and get 4 free DLC stages for free on the 3DS version.
Ie. assuming Mewtwo is a secsess the only thing holding back the Ice Climbers from returning as DLC is 1 comment made by Sakurai way before the games came out
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I've looked it up and I saw no evidence of that. If anything, it's either a lie or it's just unused planned data. So do me a solid and provide me a link to where you got that info. All I know from hacking is that 8 player smash was planned for the 3DS version. I know it's your opinion and I'm ok with that but I don't think it's gonna happen. The unused data could problem just be planned data that was unfinished and abandoned.
Also for IC, this was a guaranteed deconfirmation. Various sites posted what he said and they also posted why there's no Story Mode in SSB4. Wii U version was but if didn't work in the 3DS, they're out indefinitely with no exceptions including exclusive fighters. Tough pill to swallow but we'll get over it.
Even if the experiment works, the only thing that's holding back the duo is the 3DS itself. If it can't handle multiple climbers, then they can't join since all fighters have to appear in both games.
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That's from less then a minnite's worth of surching, if I spent more time I could probobly find more in depth data
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For the screen select buttons, it's possible that in early development, you'd be able to switch screens in case the full roster couldn't fit the 3DS screen. It could be DLC selection but seeing how Brawl's stage selection had a similar premise, I think it was planned for screen switching.
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It's kinda common sense that it applies to dlc as well since it's part of the roster. Having exclusive dlc would contradict the idea of having the same roster because there would still be characters some are missing out on. It will most definitely not happen unless as a single fighter which like you said would piss off a ton of people and ruin their Schtick. If they did have them considered as wii u exclusives they could've done it from the start and leave out one of the clones (or do one even more clone-ish just for the 3ds) since it was announced rather early that they were having trouble. They would've had them done in time
Also yes I know he said brawl was his last he also said melee was his last. Doesn't change the possibility that he might be serious this time. Just had to specify that thing about what sakurai said just in case you were one of those totally 100% convinced there wont be a smash 5 (which is why I stated that Nintendo could do it without him or hell get sucked right back in) But since were on the same page about smash 5 happening we can drop that part of the argument
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Thay likely did'nt do it from the start cos if they did then that would mean that Sacerui lied, as he priviosly stated that the roster for both versions would be the same. BUT 1 could make an argument that DLC is'nt part of the true roster, and dus if there DLC that's an excuse to add them in without having lied.
Currently Sacerui seems very iffy about DLC for Smash in general, so I'd say weather or not we get any beyond Mewtwo depends on how well Mewtwo dos and how well it's received. If he dos well enough then there's a high chance that more DLC caricters will be added to the roster later on, if Sacerui were to make more DLC the best option to start with would be to make new clone caricters as clones are easier to program into the game as he can bowow pre-egsisting asists from caricters that are already in the game, but seeing how Lucina, Dark Pit, & Dr. Mario were received (dispute the fact that they're esincaly free bonus caricters) if he were to add clones as DLC it would have to be cone's that people already want in, the other option would be the Ice Climbers as there already mostly complete, but were removed cos of 3DS limitations.
Honestly I think they'll EVENTUALITY be added in cos a lot of people want them to return & cos thay were already mostly complete when they were scraped, and so not finishing them would have ment that all the time they spent on them was for nothing
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Dlc is still part of the roster they will not be added no matter wat because they wanted the same rosters. once you have them they're on the roster. It's not a loophole. And dlc clones are unlikely since it's optional hardly anyone would buy it. Dlc beyond mewtwo would be veterans (clone or not) and unique newcomers but certainly not ice climbers. Since we know characters can come back after getting cut then surely they'll be in smash 5 (even if it's on another handheld as they could have the error fixed)
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If that's your opinion on the ice climbers I'm not going to argue it more as it's obvious that I'm not going to be able to change youer mind, or you myne
As for clones, So your saying no one would buy Roy, Lucas, or Wolf, some of the most wanted caricters for Smash 4 DLC and caricters that a lot of people wanted them in be in Smash if they were made available as DLC? HA! I can gerentee you that they would most defently sell, hack a lot of Smash fan's would be willing to buy evry single DLC caricter released regardless of who they are. Heck I've even seen a notable sized group of people who'd be willing to buy Pichu, as DLC (provided they tweaked him at lest somewhat decent, did something to differentiate her from Pikachu, or was made available at a resonly cheap price)
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1) it's not my opinion. It's just a fact that dlc counts as part of the roster it's common sense. Doing system exclusive dlc contradicts the reason for having the same rosters
2) read the comment again. I did say "clone or not" after the idea of veteran dlc. Meaning as veterans they are still very likely as dlc even if they are clones. When I said no one would buy dlc for clones I meant newcomers because they wouldn't have very big "smash followings" unlike previous cut characters which always gain large fandoms soley from being in smash. Dlc for Roy and Lucas will sell like hot cakes but I guantee you no one would want dlc for pink gold peach as a separate character
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