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prettypinkey2 In reply to gabicoon [2019-03-30 14:00:04 +0000 UTC]

It technically is, but it will appear very broken in the areas the dog would have sable black (or in this case, liver, since it would override the black/dilute it). Alternatively, if the dog has "clear sable", as in the dog has *very little* to no sable liver colored areas (like maybe just a bit along the back and on the tail), then you wouldn't be able to see the brindle. If the dog has a mask (Em_), that will be solid liver, unaffected by brindle.

And as a side-note, if you wish to display the brindle in the sable areas, it will be liver~

Does that clear things up? (:

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gabicoon In reply to prettypinkey2 [2019-03-30 14:33:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for taking the time to explain to me! As I am French I have a little trouble understanding everything but it's getting better and better

So, basically my dog ​​would be some kind of liver lighter in base coat and the brindle would be chocolate above it ?
It must be beautiful when we can see the brindle. Really, thanks for the answer, it was so messy in my head :')

I guess it's the same with a dog who has the dd instead of the bb, the brindle will be blue ... But the base coat would be sable ? or sable-bluish/ lighter blue ?

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prettypinkey2 In reply to gabicoon [2019-03-31 19:44:38 +0000 UTC]

You bet! Anything to share my passion for dog genetics :') (and cool about you being French! I'm taking French 1 this semester haha. It's pretty similar to Spanish, which I took 3 years of, so I can understand where you're coming from with the translation confusion lol)

Correct on most! The base coat will be some shade of tan or fawn (kinda creamy in color). "Eumelanin" pigment, responsible for colors black, liver/chocolate, blue, and isabella, gets "erased" to reveal some shade of red beneath it when genes on the A locus and/or brindle get involved. Think of it as every dog being red, but some have "eumelanin" colors and/or white painted on top of it. To explain the variety of red, consider the variation of red/tan shades in tan points or solid golden retrievers.

So you'll have chocolate (or blue if it's dd) stripes on top of a red-based coat, but they will only appear in places that the sable would. Because sable can have varying amounts of pigment (you can see what I mean if you Google sable Collies), the stripes will look kinda blotchy or "broken".

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gabicoon In reply to prettypinkey2 [2019-03-31 22:00:04 +0000 UTC]

Oh, oh that's it! I understood everything: It just depends on the sable / fawn that is below the brindle, finally. Ahah, thank you very much for this answer ! It really helps me. 
I suppose that this kind of case (liver brindle) must be rather rare to appear.

And, it's so cool that you chose French for this semester. It's a language a bit complicated but very pretty when you think about it !  And it's also a pretty country!

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prettypinkey2 In reply to gabicoon [2019-03-31 23:02:30 +0000 UTC]

You got it! And yes, pretty rare, haha. Border Collies and Aussie Sheps are the only breeds that come to mind where a sable liver brindle would be more common. Perhaps it could show up randomly in pits/bully breeds but as a general rule of thumb (and as far as conformation goes) most people prefer one or the other, haha. And dilutes (liver, blue, isabella) are generally "less preferred" than black.

Yeah, it's been so fun learning it! I've recently pieced together the fact that I love learning new languages and I actually catch on pretty well (I've got an A in the class haha). The next one I want to learn is Russian~ (I even know a few programming languages, like HTML/CSS lol)

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gabicoon In reply to prettypinkey2 [2019-04-01 00:10:17 +0000 UTC]

I will revolutionize the Egyptian pointers with liver brindle doggos

I am super happy to read that you appreciate so much! I have a lot of trouble with languages. I know English (but not totally) and French obviously but that's all! XD

Russian ... How brave you are
In which sector do you study? Languages, precisely ? 
I study litterature from the Middle Age to today. And before that, I was studying in the nature sector  (yes, it's totally different )

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prettypinkey2 In reply to gabicoon [2019-04-01 03:24:18 +0000 UTC]

Glad to help! Can't wait to see them around!

Haha, everyone I've talked to about taking Russian goes "cool! ... Good luck!" LOL. But I'm excited! And I actually don't study language at all, haha. I'm a graphic design major! I graduate in May. I took a Medieval Literature class last semester and LOVED it! Part of me knows I missed out on not taking up an English or Literature minor, as I realized my interest in it too late to make up credits for it, but ah well I can still enjoy it on my own time!

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gabicoon In reply to prettypinkey2 [2019-04-01 06:05:35 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes the graphic design, it's really different from the languages  
I see what you mean, but unfortunately we can't do everything ;') but it's really nice to see someone who interested in so many things too !  My family tends to say that I have "too many centers of interest" xD
I find it very convenient because you never get bored !

Good luck for graduate ! I guess you mean you're going to have your degree ? (I have trouble interpreting the double meaning of graduate xD)
Well, anyway, it's cool to talk with you !  ^^

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prettypinkey2 In reply to gabicoon [2019-04-02 00:53:42 +0000 UTC]

I can certainly relate to multiple centers of interest! (especially when I tell people about my interest in dog color genetics xD)

Ha, yes thanks! You got it c:

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prettypinkey2 In reply to Wolf2004-14 [2019-01-03 17:20:10 +0000 UTC]

I'm afraid I don't know what you mean ^^" There's no app, this is just a .pdf guide that describes and illustrates how dog genetics work~

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prettypinkey2 In reply to juinebug [2019-01-02 21:19:33 +0000 UTC]

:'D thank you so much!

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