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Pocky-Poison — ya know (opinion)
Published: 2016-09-03 21:37:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 2938; Favourites: 50; Downloads: 0
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Description I know I've always said stuff like "omg TDA is overused" and "omg *insert thing here*" is overused but
you know what? Fuck that. I've had a change of opinion and i'd just like to share it publicly,
Please note before I start that this is not aimed at anyone in particular, and it is not intended to start drama. I did not write this to "get back at anyone" or anything. I'm writing because it is my opinion.
so. (also this is kinda similar to EndiBell 's journal if anyone wants to check that out too)

If everyone and their mother wants to use..for example, TDA. You know what? let them. 
Sure, it's overused as hell, sure it looks bad, sure it looks tacky, sure it may look this and that and the other. But you know..so what? If it gives someone happiness and it's their hobby, let them. If it makes someone happy and is a fun pass time for them to edit TDA Miku for example; fine. Even if their edits suck, it's fine. There's no need for said person to be hated on. 

As long as they're not harming anyone, or breaking rules (In which case yeah, they need to be corrected or called out) just let people do it. Let people make their TDA OCs or FNaF models or Undertale videos. They may look like death , sure. They may look (for lack of a more polite word) shitty. In fact, to be honest..most do. No offence.

But honestly. As long as they're not doing anything illegal. What is the problem with it?

It might make them happy to upload hundreds of TDA OCs. It may look horrible to others, but it's a hobby that gives them happiness. It's fun to them. They like doing it and they enjoy it. They may not be talented, but they don't do anything wrong. Therefore who is anyone else to hate them for doing something they enjoy?

The same can be said about many things in the MMDC. For example, MMD and Photoshop. There's the whole thing that "lens flares drawn hair is boring" etc. Yeah, sure. It is indeed overused as hell; and boring at that. And it does look bad, unless done right. I've seen plenty of pictures with MMD and Photoshop looking absolutely awful- my own included too. 

But you know what? 
Let people upload what they want. If it brings them happiness, then let them do it. Don't stomp on others' happiness just because they're doing something that's been done before. 
It's the same with making Miku models. Making "Meet the MMDer" things. Making Miku Append edits. Yeah they're all overused as hell; but who is anyone to stop it? Let people upload what they want.

Of course, there is an exception to this when people are blatantly copying each other. Like completely copying a picture or model. The same goes when someone is breaking a model rule or something. Or if someone is uploading content that is harmful, upsetting, or inappropriate. In cases like that, it's okay to whine about their content. because they're actually doing something wrong in that situation. It's okay to hate on them because they are blatantly disobeying rules and ripping others off. But apart from that I see so many people being called boring and talent-less and generic and literally stamped on, just for using TDA or using Photoshop or using an effect or something like that. 

Just..let people be. Let them make their generic TDA miku edits. Let them fiddle with the same old effects. Let them draw their badly drawn hair in Photoshop. Let them have fun. 

Let them do what they want, as long as they aren't harming others or breaking rules.

If you really want this "community" to change like everyone says, you're going to have to stop hating on every little thing you don't like. 
Reasons like this is why I've seen new people afraid to join the MMD "community". they are literally too afraid to join because they are afraid to be hated on from the get-go. and it needs to stop.

Just food for thought. :/
sorry, I was in the mood to rant. Sorry if this makes no sense 
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Comments: 95

Pocky-Poison In reply to ??? [2016-09-04 23:09:05 +0000 UTC]

ah.
Well I mean this journal was made towards the MMD community, so i'm going to use the community while explaining why it exists.

This community is full of "Hate blogs", blogs on places like tumblr and such that literally enjoy ripping people's art to shreds and calling it horrible, awful, etc. just for the fun of it. As a result, heaps of users have been getting discouraged and leaving. (if you'd like a link to one such blog for reference I could note it to you.) As well as that there's a huge thing about hating certain model types being used, and certain ways of making pictures. People are fighting constantly over it. I can't speak for other communities that I'm not a part of, but I can tell you for this one that there's been a bunch of unhappiness among the people here.

And, that being said too, what's the harm in reminding people to be positive?

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PostalServices In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-04 23:11:45 +0000 UTC]

I understand. I've kind of seen what the MMD community can be.
There is no harm in reminding people to be positive, it just shocks me that people don't already know to act like nice people.

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Pocky-Poison In reply to PostalServices [2016-09-07 20:49:45 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. it's really not a nice place at times but there are positive things around.
And yeah, I can understand. While the majority are usually pretty nice there is a heap of individuals (which I won't name) who don't seem to know.

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Jiryuu In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 23:13:14 +0000 UTC]

I agree wholeheartedly with all of this. 
Honestly, it's because of the hate and selfishness that Higuchi Yu has given up on MMD because the JPers wouldn't follow his rules that he put on the program and ended up sending him threats and whatnot (at least that what I read a long time ago).
Seriously, all of this hate just needs to freaking stop. It's getting old and banal REAL fast. -_-  

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Pocky-Poison In reply to Jiryuu [2016-09-04 23:15:21 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. Is that really what happened? I wasn't around when that all happened, so I wouldn't really know about it. Damn. It's a real shame things had to turn out that way...i'm not surprised though.
and exactly. But I guess until people start trying to make steps to change it nothing is really going to change..

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Jiryuu In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-04 23:48:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. Which is why MMD hasn't had an update in forever, and why MMM (mikumikumoving) was made to start where MMD left off at. If I remember correctly (which I probably don't. lol XD; ) it was some JP MMDer named Nanami who first told Higuchi to basically "F off" then most everyone followed her than everything escalated and he stopped support for MMD because of it. 

Honestly, people themselves, first need to change before they try to change anything else because as long as people to fix their problems (ie no manners, no respect, etc.) nothing will be fixed.

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Pocky-Poison In reply to Jiryuu [2016-09-07 20:44:46 +0000 UTC]

Ah, really? i was wondering why- I always presumed it was just because Higuchi got bored of it but to learn that he was literally bullied out of it...that's such a shame. The poor guy. He worked hard to create a program for others' enjoyment only to be bullied away from it. That's horrible.

and exactly. Although recently I've seen a lot of people beginning to make a stand (eg. making new positivity blogs, groups on dA, leaving nicer comments etc.) and it makes me happy c:

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Jiryuu In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-08 00:18:28 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, very horrible. :c I really feel sorry for him. He made the program for everyone to enjoy and follow really simple and easy rules only for him to be hated and bullied upon. Hopefully now he's living a happier life~

Yeah, me too! It's so refreshing seeing people do that~ C: 

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Ohbey In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 23:01:39 +0000 UTC]

PREACH OMG
PLS PREACH MORE
like this is beyond important rn

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Pocky-Poison In reply to Ohbey [2016-09-04 21:46:30 +0000 UTC]

i'm dying thank u
thank you yeS
I'm glad you agree im

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LernkyPanda [2016-09-03 22:41:20 +0000 UTC]

GUUUUURL PREACH
I SERIOUSLY couldn't agree more

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Pocky-Poison In reply to LernkyPanda [2016-09-04 21:46:43 +0000 UTC]

omFG THANK YOU SM I'M GLAD YOU AGREE THANK U

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LernkyPanda In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-04 22:41:29 +0000 UTC]

who wouldn't agree with this?
 liiike I would PERSONALLY SLAP SOME RESPECT INTO THEM IF THEY DIDN'T
IT'S COMMON KINDNESSSS
actually saying I would slap someone is considered a threat... but I would probably tell their parents???

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Pocky-Poison In reply to LernkyPanda [2016-09-07 20:39:09 +0000 UTC]

SAME SAmE but ig some people are just tired of the overused stuff all the time too?? idek
and EXACTLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY KINDNESS ISN'T A GIVEN IN THIS COMMUNITY ALREADY SMH
ye true...that's much better cx do something that'll make them stop at least

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LernkyPanda In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-08 07:57:59 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, like I understand if you don't like something and I can respect that. But, you don't have to be rude.
BUUUT, you don't have to sugar coat everything either. 
I think this community would be a lot better if people could give critiques as well as handle critiques.... idk

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Pocky-Poison In reply to LernkyPanda [2016-09-13 23:11:33 +0000 UTC]

Exactly. There needs to be a middle ground here, and unfortunately that's just not happening atm. I'd hate to see a community that pretends to love everything and everyone because that's just fake and dishonest. At the same time though pure hatred to other users isn't okay, especially beginners.

Our beginners are going to suck, because they're beginners. They should be welcomed and encouraged, not hated on because they're not automatically amazing @ everything you feel?

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LernkyPanda In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-14 23:08:00 +0000 UTC]

Couldn't have said it any better! 
At the very least, as long as beginners keep practicing, they will get a little better. 
But, if people discourage them, they won't even try. 
So many good MMDers have deactivated because of drama and sending newbies away won't make any good MMDers.

At this point, we're just gonna go extinct as a community

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Daydream--Devilish In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 22:16:00 +0000 UTC]

BABY THIS IS Gr8

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Pocky-Poison In reply to Daydream--Devilish [2016-09-04 21:46:49 +0000 UTC]

thANK YOU BAB ILY

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Daydream--Devilish In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-04 22:52:17 +0000 UTC]

ILY TOO

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iiStereoLoveii In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 22:07:36 +0000 UTC]

i fall VE RY guity under the "bad photoshop +mmd " group

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Pocky-Poison In reply to iiStereoLoveii [2016-09-04 21:47:52 +0000 UTC]

s a m e 
but hey, don't be ashamed over it. Just try to work towards improving if you think you're bad! Practice makes perfect I think

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Plaluci In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 22:06:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for making this. Sure TDA is used a lot and I appreciate a little more variety but it still looks incredible and amazing when people use it, and using a /model/ shouldn't warrant hate from anyone. It isn't hurting anyone! And with PMXe, everyone starts out somewhere. I'm still learning now and it's quite difficult but eventually people get better. If it makes them happy, they should do it. And the MMD hate blogs make me real sad. Some of my work has been posted there for being too generic (with my Yugioh ones being called edgy) and no one realizes how much it hurts. When people make fun of someone's work that they spent a lot of time of it's not nice. 

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Pocky-Poison In reply to Plaluci [2016-09-04 23:18:25 +0000 UTC]

Exactly, exactly. UNLESS someone is literally breaking a rule (say for example, you took an illegal part and put it on an edit) then sure, that person deserves to be corrected. Even then they don't deserve hate. No one really does, unless they've done something incredibly awful. PMXE is hard to use tbh; and like with everything, we all suck at first. Everybody sucks at something when they first start; and if they don't then they're lying. It's unfair that people are getting stamped on just for not being as good as others imo. And I'm really sorry to hear that. It does hurt, yes, although the posters probably view it as a joke. Exactly. 
I don't mind hate blogs too much sometimes because sometimes what they do is helpful, like Calling out a rule breaker or a spammer. But other times they just get ridiculously cruel

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Plaluci In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-05 02:10:50 +0000 UTC]

I agree. Nothing warrants hate for a MMD model. Nobody should be sent death threats either, it's disgusting...there are real people who make edits and models. They're human. And a lot of the "shitty" edits people make fun of are usually done by younger kids who are just learning and it's just really rude. How low must someone be to make fun of a kid who is just starting out and for fun?

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Pocky-Poison In reply to Plaluci [2016-09-07 20:43:01 +0000 UTC]

Exactly. That's always what I've thought. It's only a 3D program after all; and it's just a fun hobby for some people to do in their spare time. To be hated on because you aren't automatically a pro at something is unfair and just horrible. People really need to start being more accepting to others, especially our beginners. They should be welcomed, not shamed!

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hellanator In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 22:00:37 +0000 UTC]

Truth right here ^ 

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Pocky-Poison In reply to hellanator [2016-09-04 22:11:14 +0000 UTC]

Thank u so much omg

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hellanator In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-04 22:26:32 +0000 UTC]

No problem! 

Personally, TDA is my favorite model style, but I don't bash out on others if they don't like it ;; 

People shouldn't do that

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Pocky-Poison In reply to hellanator [2016-09-07 20:38:02 +0000 UTC]

same same! I know lots of people don't like TDA simply because it's so overused ;;
like? stop. let people do what they want smh.
Exactly

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hellanator In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-07 20:54:30 +0000 UTC]

yeah- 

the mmdc needs to get their negativity under control jfc 

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Pocky-Poison In reply to hellanator [2016-09-13 22:47:59 +0000 UTC]

Definitely. In the last week there's been a hate blog come and gone, a report crisis, and someone faking their suicide. It's insane man

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hellanator In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-13 23:16:23 +0000 UTC]

Yeah ;; 

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PenguinParadeSystem In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 21:50:15 +0000 UTC]

 

This

Was

Beautiful 

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Pocky-Poison In reply to PenguinParadeSystem [2016-09-04 22:11:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!!!!
I'm glad you agreed with this

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PenguinParadeSystem In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-04 22:22:34 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome

Everyone has the right to their own opinion and seeing this made me feel better for using TDA a lot. I am aware it is used a lot but it was the first thing I saw when I got into MMD and I felt it was very expressive compared to other models. That doesn't mean I don't try other models (sometimes I play them in motions for shits and giggles) but like you said, if people enjoy using said models, why should we get on them for using them? As long as they aren't hurting anyone or breaking rules, we should let them do what they love to do.

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Cameko-MMD In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 21:44:54 +0000 UTC]

this is the best journal for the mmdc so far, preach

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Pocky-Poison In reply to Cameko-MMD [2016-09-04 22:11:04 +0000 UTC]

Ah thank you so much!
I'm glad you agree tbh

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Cameko-MMD In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-04 22:11:59 +0000 UTC]

of course !

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CrazyImmor In reply to ??? [2016-09-03 21:44:10 +0000 UTC]

such true words
and this is also why Jackie doesnt bother anyone 
or even get much attention from others
and also to kinda stay low and not get involved with the hatred and drama .-.

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Pocky-Poison In reply to CrazyImmor [2016-09-04 23:13:14 +0000 UTC]

ye I guess
I really like your account tbh, I love the simplicity of your renders. They're really cute 
and ye I really want to do the same..

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CrazyImmor In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-05 01:52:37 +0000 UTC]

aaa thank u
wasnt sure what Jackie's style would be known as, but 
she was always told that her art is cute and simple sooo ye
.-.

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Pocky-Poison In reply to CrazyImmor [2016-09-07 20:41:05 +0000 UTC]

it's no problem!
and yeah it's really nice, I liked the whole "profile" kinda things where you described the traits of all the main vocaloids too. That was really nice and creative imo ;u;

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CrazyImmor In reply to Pocky-Poison [2016-09-07 23:34:13 +0000 UTC]

yey ty Pocky-san

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Pocky-Poison In reply to CrazyImmor [2016-09-13 22:58:23 +0000 UTC]

No prob bab

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