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Description Felt like centering the figure to make him stronger and more important, tinted the spotlight slightly, rendered for 6 hours unlike the first one for 2 hours.Β 
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12CArt [2019-01-13 14:58:11 +0000 UTC]

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CherokeeGal1975 In reply to 12CArt [2019-01-14 09:01:04 +0000 UTC]

Nice one.Β 

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Platycerium In reply to 12CArt [2019-01-13 18:21:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Platycerium In reply to 12CArt [2019-01-13 17:56:40 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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IndusGuys [2019-01-11 15:33:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I'm not sure which I prefer, this one has nicer contrast and is more moody, cleaner and obviously a better render since it's rendered out longer. It's interesting to see the difference between the two to see how the mood changes with the positioning of the figure. He has more impact here being the centre, but I think the composition, from a stylistic point of view is better on the previous one. It all comes down to what you want to say I suppose doesn't it?. Β The set looks richer in this version though and I'm a fan of moody lighting.

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Platycerium In reply to IndusGuys [2019-01-11 15:50:54 +0000 UTC]

The last render he owns and first he's within. This character in my book is enigmatic with vast resources, knowledge and monies so as to dwarf the combined one percent.

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IndusGuys In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-11 16:56:08 +0000 UTC]

Good way to put it.Β 

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Platycerium In reply to IndusGuys [2019-01-11 19:36:12 +0000 UTC]

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portisHeart [2019-01-11 13:20:06 +0000 UTC]

nice setting and protagonist/clothing! i actually goggled the name, i thought it was some classical celeb

so you're suffering the pixel plague too.. despite some tutorials telling to add lighting (which is annoying and ill-fitting if you want a night/evening scene innit) or modify your render settings (like, all options towards their best and no stopping of the render = horrendous render times), i still have the shinies polluting my renders, which usually end up i the bin

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-11 14:58:57 +0000 UTC]

He's a character in a book I'm working on called Raveneaux Park which is contempory setting and not historic. This render has less shinies, the composition is stronger. I can live with this.

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-13 21:45:34 +0000 UTC]

sounds awesome! ^^ - so.. is this an "official" book, like do you intend to publish as an ebook or on paper? or more something to share here or s'where else?
must be interesting, contemporary with this guy's looks (the mansion could be both historic/contemp, the outfit makes one wonder more).
i guess no spoilers? ^^

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-14 01:53:07 +0000 UTC]

I'll know when I finish it, to the first question.
All time lines, to the second question.

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-14 02:26:45 +0000 UTC]

hope we'll at least get an extract ^^.
anyways, nice render! love the lighting casting his face - he's cute btw - and the general contrast. the whole image is.. grand. ^^

it's true, there aren't even so many shinies here, they don't disrupt the picture - i mentioned it cuz i just kinda realized that if it happens even to the best of us, i haven't completely made everything wrong with my own scenes ~

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-14 03:04:45 +0000 UTC]

I still consider myself new at this. I turn out so many pieces just to catch up to where I'd like to be. While I feel skilled in other forms of art and design I'm just starting to emerge in 3D. I still fall off the horse more than I'd like but it's getting better. Sometimes, I love grain and render some quick 2-4 minute pieces but some think I didn't render enough rather than this is how it wants to be!

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-14 14:24:20 +0000 UTC]

aren't we all... . but yeah, telling a machine what you want is a totally different set of skills than training your hand to master tools. i def suck at the latter, and my learning curve with the pc is very slow, chaotic, devoid of any discipline ~ i'm like a kid with lego
constant changes in the application don't help a bit, but at least usually they bring some improvement (like, you spend months/yrs fumbling with 3dl, and when you think you might have gotten the gist, bam! comes iray - what amazing renders you could produce... but first back to square one with the surface+render panels
hey, as long as you go back in the saddle... ^^ ~ more often than not, i've got the feeling that my horse has thrown me off and i'm walkin' back on foot

actually, when i looked at your pic again (before this comment), i thought of grain, and how it gave it a kinda nice feel of its own. ^^

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-15 05:01:06 +0000 UTC]

Some images are well crafted but remain soulless. By that I mean they might have an immediate impact but fades quickly. There's a lot of that out there and there isn't wrong with creating regardless of the level of expertise. Learning the craft is great but when it becomes second nature perhaps it's time to think about making art. In my actual life I am rewarded for my ability to craft well but deliver that undefinable extra that sets me apart from the others. Without name dropping a nice clientele. But, I haven't hit that level yet in 3D. I'm definitely trying. There will come a time where 3D will be my occupation rather than the businesses I own now. Until then I'm still crafting!

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-15 12:01:00 +0000 UTC]

well, Aristide in his splendid abode, that's def one image that will probably never fade from my memory

it's so hard to "judge" art (starting by defining if it "is" art) - should one even do it? and how, by which criteria? what is important, the general aesthetics, the level of skill, the heart blood the artist has poured into it, the impact on society or the message, the impression and/or mood it creates in the viewer...??
the only thing i'm pretty steadfast about is that "to which school/trend it belongs to, respects or illustrates" should NOT be taken in consideration, i hate trends - ask Van G and so many others who died miserably & poor while people later made fortunes with their stuff ~
and let's not even start with the discussion "is computer art (especially with prefab elements) even art compared to hand painting?"

short - haha, after such a slab above - i absolutely agree with you that there isn't anything wrong with creating what one feels like doing.

for me it is a 2nd nature, i need to make things exist, to just let them take form, maybe to "exorcise them out of my mind" (def doesn't work, they stay there lmao). which doesn't mean that i have any talent or that my stuff is any "good" (although, see above...). but funnily enough, what i upload here is: 1) only a fraction of a multitude of never finished never rendered scenes collecting pixel dust on my HD, 2) most of the time what happened while i was playing with daz, testing (new or old) stuff. the real stuff that's living in my mind, which i hope to give form to some day - many mental images with/out story behind them, many plot bunnies for lit - is seldom part of it. sadly, while they haunt my mind, i can't focus my aimless restless too playful energy, can't force myself to create this or that, stuff just happens pretty randomly ~

then there's this aspect you talk about - besides creating because it's a need... comes the recognition by your peers, and there i can see how it's important to bring the "special note", the element that makes it "yours" so it's more or less immediately recognized as being your work
i think many of your scenes from a while ago had this extra touch that made me see immediately it was yours. sadly the problem with hyperrealism (not in the theme, in the execution/render) is that it melts the pool of artists into a crowd producing renders you can't identify easily, they're all perfect - which i love, paradoxally - but this perfection makes them somehow... uniform. especially if there's no postrendering in a 2D app whatsoever. hard to explain...

anyways, i hope you can, very soon, give your whole energy to 3D and be happily rendering to your heart's content

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-15 16:23:41 +0000 UTC]

At the university I wrote an extensive paper on realism coming to an understanding that the more real something looks the further it is from reality since it rests on the illusion of the real. Someone like Jackson Pollock is not copying reality but expressing directly with paint on the canvas. It's immediate, no deep hidden meaning gallery owners gush over, no representation. It is a real unto itself no longer an illusionary window to look into. It's like discovering a new object for the first time. That is a big deal, a larger theme, a radical idea. So an artists intention is larger than craft and hopefully the idea will be elegant itself.

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-19 13:05:59 +0000 UTC]

ofc, being an art history ignorant, i had to goggle JP. talking about his "splattery" stuff, you can really say it's pure energy of that moment embodied in the physical vehicle of the paint and immortilized on canvas, it's the expression of himself... so in a way it's real, it can't be interpreted or falsified, it is what it is. i see what you mean. personally tho - let's pretend i could even afford a JP, lol - since i don't know him as a person and have no attachment to him, i would just look at the aesthetics, the colors, the "shapes"/splines(??), ponder if it pleases my senses, before i'd buy it to hang it up... and while i usually prefer figurative (?) subjects, at least way more than unsightly abstracts, i might actually pick one of those over a boring realistic painting ~
that said, sometimes i still get the feeling some people hide their lack of skills behind abstract styles, and while i'm supposed to and mostly smile looking at a real 3 y.o's drawing, i def don't when it's been made and sold for millions by an adult >_<
the intention of the artist is indeed important, although it would only influence me if i either knew them, a friend/acquaintance, or if i admired them as a person.

talking about illusion, i think everything except for the personal, immediate, unreproduced moment - and even this! - is an illusion. the past, the future, anything being conveyed further or reproduced, anything beyond the millisecond you experience it, isn't real. and if you consider that everything we experience is done through our senses, it's subjective, it's related to the fragile chemistry of our brains, which is arbitrary and faillible, "what is real" is a concept walking on very very thin ice...
so yes, if even our most personal view of a scene/an object are just as "real" as we feel them in a fleeting moment, all the more if it was just existing in our imagination, you can say that any reproduction of it is a lie, inaccurate, because it's just impossible to nail it in an universal way for all to see/experience...

oh, gallery owners. eeeeek. imho the gangrene of the art scene, for the majority of them.
just like critics of anything - how many of them have actually never created anything in their whole life because they just don't have the skills, the soul and the balls to do so? it's easy to express an opinion, less to contribute. how many lives, careers and reputations have they destroyed? how many breath taking works of art, delicious menus, enjoyable plays have been condemned to be unjustly disliked, forgotten, avoided, some before they even had the time to actually exist - if their creator gave up? all this because of their sanctions, their pushy trend creation/supporting.
the more something is deemed trendy and advertized, the more likely i am to avoid it. it just irks me. funnily enough, i still discover stuff from a few years ago, and have to admit "ok, it wasn't so bad"

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-18 15:42:28 +0000 UTC]

i WILL answer this! but for serious halfway intelligent answers, unlike quick casual comments, i need to tame my attention & focus which are, those days, scattered all over the place, making me lose the thread of my thoughts after seconds :/ ... been very unusually eating lotsa cheap prefab 5min food lately cuz broke as hell plus kitchen supercold/no steam vent/outdoors freezing, and monosodium glutamate def doesn't help...

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-19 07:02:44 +0000 UTC]

Sorry your cold and not eating well, I remember my youthful day not having much of anything in SF.Β 

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-19 12:22:21 +0000 UTC]

thx 4 ^^
not even a student any more.. but i live with a chowder of meoows (little demographic explosion in just 1 year...) not every landlord is glad to shelter hence this dump in a kinda farmhouse... but honestly, offer me a state of the art mansion with swimming pool without them, i'd refuse immediately! Β 
today's better, never buying that food again, i got borderline confused yesterday, my brain went haywire, a bad day - already have food intolerances, that stuff is even more of a poison for me than the average peeps. and guess what, today again ice on my kitchen windows INSIDE. at noon. not sure if we had -15 or -23Β°c last night, my 2 meteo sites don't agree... lmao.

haha you were part of that SF crowd then - must have been wild & awesome. - beyond anything we could even imagine here.
that's what i kinda envy about peeps living overseas, in the US you have so many microworlds and scenes... ok, not everything is a quiet & rosy as it's here tho, so pros/cons... ^^

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-19 17:12:17 +0000 UTC]

I tend to disappear when cold and liken it to Sheol, a murky environment where its inhabitants are disconnected, foggy and lacking personality. I hope you have some source of heat. Yes, I was unrestrained in my SF days, worked as an artist model, was part of the curb culture, lived in the Haight but found my way to a houseboat in Sausalito eventually moved to the exclusive heights. (Still relying on the kindness of strangers. Lol.)

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-19 20:04:17 +0000 UTC]

well i'm already slightly reclusive... for reasons, tho in winter it mutates into hibernation, i get out like 1x/week
Sheol hmm? very interesting concept, had never heard of it, glad i learned a new thing today! thank you ^^
oh yeah, luckily we do, otherwise we couldn't survive (winter in CH at 1000m o.s.l? no chance) - but while we occupy the whole attic floor, about 100m2, only our sleeping=living room is heated with a little electric fan. the rest is not so we pile up here, the felines & me ^^
whaddya want, as the kind old landlady offered us shelter i didn't even pay rent, but then no electricity, no hot water, no bathroom, just cold water, sink & toilet. gotta get creative for the basics i tellya. then as if it seemed we were here to stay, she put on electricity back and i paid a tiny rent ~
the kindness of strangers, lol, without it we would have been on the street 10 yrs ago. before the old lady, an older friend let us rent his house, and now that we must go (the lady died, sadly), other friends are looking for a house for them+us.. thank Bast.
omg.. wish i could travel back & have a peek at you in your SF days.. trying to imagine you living the wild life, but the only reference i have are US flicks. and a model, hmm? looking at "the early years" yeah, i could see that ^^

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-19 21:56:24 +0000 UTC]

I really need to respond from a computer the iPad refreshes and I lose all I've written. I'll get back later.

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portisHeart In reply to Platycerium [2019-01-19 22:24:17 +0000 UTC]

yeah, i know what you mean. tablets, which are supposed to be more interactive devices than a pc, are exactly the opposite, and typing is a chore - i was stuck with mine for +1 yr as my old netbook failed and i had no replacement and no $$, it was hell, i cried of joy as i got my "new" 2nd hand laptop.
nowadays i only use the tablet when on the train cuz no point carrying my laptop to my relatives - or to watch a movie/play while my laptop renders (but this tablet is sooo old, like +6 yrs, it suxx even for movies) ~

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Platycerium In reply to portisHeart [2019-01-14 22:57:30 +0000 UTC]

I've been trying to answer you but I am swamped with work. I'll respond later.

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