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Description I FINALLY finished this thing, well, for now. I still want to texturize the scales more, but I don't really know exactly how to do that so I guess it's done for my current skill level. I don't even want to think about how long this thing took me, but I think I've been working on it for like a month. Scales took me FOREVER, but I guess they look decent. I feel like they look kind of flat, but I still kind of suck at color theory. I can't believe that I got the saliva to work though

I would still love any comments or critiques. I really want to make this as perfect as possible
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Comments: 65

Venry [2010-06-18 15:13:24 +0000 UTC]

Gorgeous! what program did you use?

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to Venry [2010-06-18 16:20:54 +0000 UTC]

Thanks and Photoshop CS3

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Venry In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-06-21 23:32:54 +0000 UTC]

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to Venry [2010-06-21 23:34:27 +0000 UTC]

Photoshop is like my god

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Venry In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-06-26 20:10:38 +0000 UTC]

haha I knoow the feeling, it's awesome! xD

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chisane [2010-06-01 01:24:59 +0000 UTC]

woww
now thats a cool dragon!

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to chisane [2010-06-01 01:27:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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hemophobianessticity [2010-06-01 00:46:47 +0000 UTC]

Better than anything I could do. xDD

Love the eye though!

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to hemophobianessticity [2010-06-01 01:02:58 +0000 UTC]

haha thanks and it's all about patience unfortunately lol.

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hemophobianessticity In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-06-16 21:07:28 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes, that I have... But Photoshop I do not have. xD

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to hemophobianessticity [2010-06-16 21:19:35 +0000 UTC]

There are other programs out there too taht are a lot cheaper and sometimes free.

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hemophobianessticity In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-06-16 22:33:57 +0000 UTC]

Ohh, speaking of which, would you recommend using SAI? :3

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to hemophobianessticity [2010-06-17 01:21:30 +0000 UTC]

No idea, haven't used it. You'd be better off asking other people

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hemophobianessticity In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-06-24 21:11:09 +0000 UTC]

Ok, thanks!
I guess I could read user reviews online somewhere.

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GeminiRyoko [2010-05-27 00:12:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh and I agree a more detailed background would bring the image out a little more. Keep it up!

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to GeminiRyoko [2010-05-27 00:21:24 +0000 UTC]

I just don't know what else to do, maybe more dragons?

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GeminiRyoko In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-27 02:01:45 +0000 UTC]

looks up canyon background or mountain backgrounds on google. You should be able to get some good ideas. I wouldn't put more dragons because it will just look cheesy.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to GeminiRyoko [2010-05-27 02:05:40 +0000 UTC]

I originally wanted to do a volcano, but I already did it, and while the first version sucked, I kind of thought it was repetitive. But mountains, maybe if I do something that's kind of bluish, it might make it look less like a paper cut out, thanks for the idea

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GeminiRyoko In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-27 02:08:47 +0000 UTC]

Actually, if you did something blueish in the background that would blend in with the dragon too much. Earthy colors would look very nice in the background, I would go with browns, oranges, and greens. Maybe even some purples if you want to get. If you want to blend the dragon in with the background more, make a light source/color and make the background and the foreground have it. Easier said than done though, I totally know. It takes practice.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to GeminiRyoko [2010-05-27 02:20:01 +0000 UTC]

I'm just not sure what to listen to. A few people said that the contrast between the dragon and the background was too much and in the past, people always said to use complimentary colors and I'm just getting confused...

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GeminiRyoko In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-27 02:38:32 +0000 UTC]

I would say go along with complimentary colors, because you can't go wrong with that. Just be careful what shade you use. I really think you have the right idea with using brown in the background, just detail it up a little bit. You could always mix some blue and the color you have in the background together, and see what colors you get, and use the color that you think looks best in the background. It is confusing, but you have the right idea with complimentary colors. Just try to find a color that you can add to the foreground and background that will make the complimentary colors blend together better. And I forgot to say you're welcome last time, so you're welcome

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to GeminiRyoko [2010-05-27 19:57:58 +0000 UTC]

Have you seen the version in my scraps? Since I think I went wrong with complimentary colors but I'm just not sure...

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GeminiRyoko In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-28 17:33:51 +0000 UTC]

Are you talking about the same picture in your scraps? Because it looks like the same picture. There was one dragon picture that looked like you used complimentary colors. You had the right idea, just don't be extreme with it. I don't know what else to say :\

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to GeminiRyoko [2010-05-28 19:13:23 +0000 UTC]

Yup, I tried, and I don't know, I'm just not sure if it worked right.

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GeminiRyoko In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-30 06:02:13 +0000 UTC]

Keep practicing, you'll get there.

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GeminiRyoko [2010-05-27 00:12:04 +0000 UTC]

NICE detail on the scales! Very nice.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to GeminiRyoko [2010-05-27 00:21:12 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Erykkr [2010-05-25 16:31:12 +0000 UTC]

to pop them out more you could actually probably use an analogus color like a blue-green or green and use a complement like orange or red for the darker areas, or even some blue purple. this would give it a more natural feel, and that way whenever you actually do use the blacks it pops a little more.

as for the flatness, i suspect that because you haven't shown the top plane of the head, but you have show the inside of the lower jaw, the top looks more like a paper cutout over the background. this is a cool effect, but if it is not what you are going for then i think the easiest way to change it would be to add that place and give it a little more dimensionality.
if you do go with this option, continue the plane down the neck as well.

the other thing would be to suggest that the dragon is so massive, and you are so close that you can actually see some of the inside of the upper mouth as well, i dont know if this would work, it would be something that could look either right or wrong, but without seeing it i couldnt say. i can tell you though that regardless the addition of a few more teeth from the other side of the upper jaw would benefit it alot, even if its just hte very tips and so that you can see its on the other side.

lastly, () some atmospheric perspective across the form will benefit you the most in giving it dimensionality. that is to say, the closer that part of the dragon is to you, the darker and more saturated the hues. basically, limit the use of true black and stick with other colors such as shades of deep blue violet and violet for the darker areas and then use the lighter blues for the receeding areas. this will take time and practice.

overall i think its alot of fun and a good piece, the cropping is done very well and doesn't feel unnatural, and the addition of the other dragon in the back really helps to give the picture a feeling of life.


i think it looks great, ive just started to learn photoshop myself and it is not as simple as people might think.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to Erykkr [2010-05-25 19:48:14 +0000 UTC]

[link] I TRIED the thing with reds and greens, but I'm still working on my color theory myself so I'm not really good at it in photoshop. I find it fairly easy using paint though, for some reason.

Problem with flatness is that I can't really change the perspective. I still have the original layers, but I already compressed the layers so I can't really change much

I don't think the atmospheric perspective wold look very good here, or maybe it's just me. I've always felt that it looked better for landscapes than portraits.

And thanks for this critique

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Erykkr In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-25 22:05:44 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely! You definitely are going to get better as long as you keep experimenting and seeing whats gonna happen!

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PVdL [2010-05-25 15:09:42 +0000 UTC]

Very good, but the background could be better.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to PVdL [2010-05-25 19:05:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks but any suggestions?

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PVdL In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-26 02:04:30 +0000 UTC]

You could put more details, a blue dragon, you could put a waterfall, it would be nice.

The chinese people believes that dragons comes from nature, so, a blue dragon - water.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to PVdL [2010-05-26 02:41:35 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I was trying to go for contrast and maybe next time, I'm kind of fond of this at the moment

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jadecillustrations [2010-05-25 14:19:50 +0000 UTC]

The saliva is awesome. XD lol
I couldn't ever make something like this so your skill level is great to me! Maybe mor shadows and life into the eyes next time would bring it to life even further?
Good job! I wonder how many ages it would take me to draw a dragon. EEK lol

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to jadecillustrations [2010-05-25 19:05:51 +0000 UTC]

I think the problem is the color of the shadows rather than how much there is and how would I bring more life to the eyes?

This took me FOREVER, scales are ridiculous

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jadecillustrations In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-26 03:11:48 +0000 UTC]

well I definitely give you props!
Yeah... once I tried drawing a fish.. with scales... and well, that didn't work out too well.. lol

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to jadecillustrations [2010-05-26 20:54:14 +0000 UTC]

Scales take a LOT of patience lol.

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Ink-Minions [2010-05-21 01:28:22 +0000 UTC]

Nifty, the saliva really did work out! The texture on the horns and most scales on the face is quite good, but the neck could do with some more.

Still , pretty decent job, just keep working, I see potential here.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to Ink-Minions [2010-05-21 01:45:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks and yep, I will, I have finals coming up so that means tons of free time (I refuse to study too long)

I guess I have to up the contrast on the neck since I did do some texturizing but apparently not enough to be noticeable.

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ladylionink [2010-05-20 21:49:27 +0000 UTC]

well one thing you could do... is on the neck the scales would not be smooth the scales would cause little bumps and ridges... and maybe some more highlights

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to ladylionink [2010-05-20 22:07:15 +0000 UTC]

I tried actually and I didn't make the contrast high enough so the quality sort of removed them once I converted it . I'll try to make them a bit better once I get some more time though. Thanks for the comment

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ladylionink In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-20 22:12:10 +0000 UTC]

np i just really love drawing scales it very well done

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to ladylionink [2010-05-20 22:22:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, by the way, commented on one of your deviations too

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ladylionink In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-20 22:49:21 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Artworkbymw [2010-05-20 21:30:13 +0000 UTC]

nice

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to Artworkbymw [2010-05-20 21:35:09 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Artworkbymw In reply to phoenixfyre6967 [2010-05-20 21:42:59 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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doxinge [2010-05-20 21:10:11 +0000 UTC]

This is cool.

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phoenixfyre6967 In reply to doxinge [2010-05-20 21:12:16 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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