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Lediblock2 [2018-03-12 23:54:16 +0000 UTC]
"Pseudoarcheologists like Von Daniken are FAR more credible than in our world due to proof of some outside force taking earth humans to venus, along with archaic humans to mars at some points. The fact that the humans on venus speak an indo-european language is just even more evidence in the mind of these people. This doesn't just have influences on mainstream archeology, but also on popular culture -- the post-apocalyptic genre of OTL's niche has been filled by"
I think you missed something here.
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OneHellofaBird [2013-08-08 02:59:30 +0000 UTC]
a veritable zoo of IRL-unexplored political theories, AND a CWC reference!
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OttoVonSuds In reply to OneHellofaBird [2013-08-08 03:08:17 +0000 UTC]
Chris-chan improves every timeline he's featured in.
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QuantumBranching [2013-08-02 00:41:05 +0000 UTC]
"Moscow has a 1000 foot tall metal statue of Stalin that can move it's arms using animatronics."
Fun. Couple quibbles/suggestions:
"Thirdly and most recently, you have the completion of the first joint European-Indian nuclear-powered ship: the Phoenix"
Surely the innovation is that its an _Indian_ ship built with European aid, no? The EU should have a big enough economy and certainly the high tech to be building them for decades at this point, assuming the first US-Soviet efforts were in the 1970s.
The Algerians reduced their population by _two thirds_? Good lord, even the Khmer Rouge didn't manage to break the one-third mark in Cambodia.
IIRC, the Martians had some fairly lethal biotech: I suspect the terrestrial powers would have to go with a "nuke them from orbit" strategy to conquer Mars outright, given the difficulties of transporting large armies across interplanetary space. They also had some sort of biotech-based mind control tech as well, which offers possibilities for manipulating any terrestrial power-brokers who are foolish enough to actually live on Mars for extended periods.
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OttoVonSuds In reply to QuantumBranching [2013-08-07 16:08:58 +0000 UTC]
Partially. Another part is that it's actually able to go as fast as Eastbloc and Anglosphere space ships. They had orions before, but until the 1990s the best they could do was a third to half of the speeds that the big 2 could do.
The Algerian leader was Chris-chan level special. Famines only killed about 20%, then you had purges, deliberately working people to death, using nerve gas on internal troublemakers.
Remember how in canon the most the terrans could do was a bit of archeology along with spying? That lethal biotech was why.Β That said, the mind control tech you mention got used against them in canon, so kicking the terran spies and archaeologists off. That said, I'm sure the option of dropping massive rocks on mars and conquering the rubble was at least brought up in the 3 powers of earth.
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QuantumBranching In reply to OttoVonSuds [2013-08-10 07:17:45 +0000 UTC]
True, true. But rubble is sullen and uncooperative.
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OttoVonSuds In reply to QuantumBranching [2013-08-10 14:05:27 +0000 UTC]
Unprofitable too, since you need living martians to buy their biotech.
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FieldMarshalPatton [2013-07-29 03:22:35 +0000 UTC]
The geopolitical situations reminds me a bit of Mack Reynolds' novel Time Gladiator although there the Eurobloc was more imperialist than the one here and wasn't allied with India. OTOH, there was also a caste system with guaranteed incomes to all in place in all the superpowers in that setting along with settling international disputes via gladitorial combat/Β
What is the Martian technological level? Because according to the write-up humans are adapting Martian longevity treatments but at the same time Mars is undergoing reforms by copying Earth technology.
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OttoVonSuds In reply to FieldMarshalPatton [2013-08-07 18:33:00 +0000 UTC]
Haven't read any of Mack Reynolds' stuff. is it worth a try?
Anyways, Stirling didn't mention India in his original work(knowing how the lords of creation was a rationalization of old 30s to 50s cliches, I suspect he had India as poor, pacifist, neutral and full of weird drugs but he never officially confirmed it so my idea is possible). I put in India being a partner to explain exactly why the Eurobloc can act on par with the Anglosphere and Eastbloc.
Good question. Really good biotech thanks to tembsts, which seems to me to simply be like orion's arm style bionano and related spinoffs but due to Mars being so resource-poor no heavy industry until the Eastbloc gives some martian city-state a nuclear reactor to use to get water.
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