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Time traveling?How good could a KT be using todays high standard composite armor, never-fail gearboxes, and a 1500 hp engine?
Pretty damn good, thats what.
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The Empire Tiger, would that work for a name?
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In German it would be: 'Reichstiger', tbh that would be cool.
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what are the chains at the bottom for ? just to make it look more badass ?
it's too bad the nazis didn't realise they need a large tank from the beginning of the war
Despite the fact that they were planning for a panther tank since 1935
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I have heard from some historians that the KT would make a descent design for a modern tank.Β But Germany had even bigger weapons!
www.unmuseum.org/ratte.htm
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"Name this tank"
King Tiger.
Or the Chupa-thingy...
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Commanders hatch guard rails are waaaay too large for the size of the turret
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Thats for an anti-aircraft machinegun to be mounted on.
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I know, I've made models of this tank and seen the tank in many museums, and the rail does not come even close to that size.
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I know this...The whole point is that its been modified for an extended AAA mount, much like the Panzer IV's that Syria fielded against Israel
[link]
I know that its not how the original mg 34 mount looked like, Ive built KT models before as well, thats the point.
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Awesome! Looking cool. I think a Tiger II would have some chances in the modern world being outfitted like that.
The thing is just that the tank was originally built to not let through any shells and by now that's an illusion. So being quick is the key and for that role a Panther would be better.
Still, the armament would probably be sufficient with the correct ammo.
Make an E-50 with ERA and all that, and you really have a competitive tank.
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It's a King Tiger! Considered even by today's standards to be a pretty good Main Battle Tank.
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Old tanks with new parts, I like it.
I'd love to see them try to put reactive armor on a KV-2
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Pz VI Tiger II (Porsche Turret), Also did you actually know, That for a Maus to move as nimble as a leopard, it would need 21000 Horsepower. xD
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However, the Maus's turning circle was reportedly less than half of a M4 Sherman's.
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Turning Circle? Like the space it needs to turn around?
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Yep. Thought I have to point out that the Maus could pivot on the spot, while the Sherman could not.
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I don't think it was less than half a shermans. The Maus itself was probably twice as long as the sherman. o.o
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Well the Maus could pivot on the spot (i.e. one track rotates forward while the other rotates backward), so it had a 7.25m turning radius. The Sherman couldn't, so it had a 18.6m turning radius.
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Yea I know what your talking about, But. I think the sherman didn't need that much room. It held one track still and Pivoted on it did it not?
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I'm pretty sure it couldn't. Most of the sources you'll find say it wasn't mobile enough and was thus criticized by its crews.
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Steel Coffin they called it
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And Big ol' Pieces of shit!
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I think America is starting to shiver a little...
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WHY ARE YOUR DRAWINGS NOT OUT IN MORE GROUPS ON DEVIANT ART... seriously you do great tank art and as it hurts my pride but you have drawing skills greater than me that must be seen
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Your kidding right? Your stuff is SO MUCH BETTER than mine! Not only is your detail and shading superior, but your sense of scale and action scenes are amazing!
You can also draw people, of which I am envious.
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you have great talent and you do so awesome
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pzkpfw VI Tiger II chasis armored with explosive reactive armour? not bad
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Fun. I like it. I did a rendition of the Panzer 88 Tiger with shurzen.
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Got a little argument with ~The-Ghost-of-Razgriz about the realism of the retrofit of the KT with modern technology.
I was saying that the 88/L71 was too weak for a modern battlefield and that it would have been upfraded with the L7 105mm gun.
The problem is that the muzzle break wouldn't be the same and it's a part really visible on your drawing (that is really nice other than that)
you can look her [link] for the full argument.
He say to me to ask you about it, so, it's what i'm doing.
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the original idea surrounding this was to make a king tiger that had somehow hopped 40 years into the future.
i wanted to keep the general aesthetic the same so that one could still easily identify it. i experimented with 105/120 mm guns, but they ruined the look for me.
as for the porsche turret, not only is it more aesthetically pleasing, but it also sets the tank a bit apart from the rest of its kind. only 50 were made so its rare and gives it a bit of personality. compounding all of that, i also thought the era fit better on a rounded surface.
as for the guns performance, this could be easily remedied by the use of sabot, or hesh.
from a practicality standpoint, its lacking, but for this one i just decided to go with "screw realism, go for looks"
i hope this answered your questions, feel free to ask more
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I'm still thinking that, even with HEAT, the gun would be too light for this era but if you tried it, that'sall that count.
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depleted uranium sabot fixes everything
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Effectively it would give him more punch than the basic panzergranate.
After a little searching I found about information about the britain QF20 pounder (84mm, L66.7) that had a sabot : it can pierce 300mm (at 1000m I think).
I find out in the T-72 page of wikipedia the equivalence in rolled homogeneous armour (the lower values of all the models):
Model Turret vs APFSDS Turret vs HEAT Hull vs APFSDS Hull vs HEAT
T-72 'Ural' 380 mm (15 in) 490 mm (19 in) 335 mm (13.2 in) 450 mm (18 in)
The gun is still slightly too light for the job.
For the power, a 1500hp GPU for the KT would give him 21.5hp/t, the t-72 has 21.6 : same
ground pressure t-72 : 0.9kg/cmΒ², KT : 1.07kg/cmΒ² : better for the T-72
Penetration of the 125 2A46 in1976 (Sabot) : 380mm (1984 : 570mm) : better for the t-72.
So, without the increase in weight with the composite armor and the more powerfull and bigger GPU (and the armor to cover the bigger size, etc), the t-72 would have been still better than the Kt (that is not strange, as they have 30 years in difference.)
BUT, the USSR used to sell degraded performances tank to his allied so, it would be possible that they could be equivalent.
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for the gun, it must be kept in mind that it also used a 4mm wider shell, and seeing as the gun was 71 calibers long, you have a barrel length of 6248mm as opposed to the 84mm l/66.7 having one of only 5602.8 mm which leaves you with a gun barrel that is 645.2 mm longer.
This gives it a slightly higher average muzzle velocity as well as a slightly more powerful shell as it is just barely larger, but it would be minimal (11% or so) when compared to the 84mm.
but yes, the T-72 would still have the advantage in terms of gun power, but soviet tanks are notorious for having poor fire control systems and limited optics as opposed to their western counterparts, especially the export versions that were stripped of all the juicy firing computers and such.
In the end, it would boil down to how well trained the crew was, how it was employed, and who got the first shot off from where.
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Right, I forget the disastrous fire control of the t72.
Also, I don't remember if the automatic reload was the same af the awful one of the t-62.
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The one that occassionally fed the loaders arm severed into the barrel?
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And broke down and let some tanks fleeing the battlefield with their gun atΒ max elevation...
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the autoloaders on the export versions were horribad, maybe 3-4 rpm?
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Something like that. The biggest problem is that the gun had to reach his max elevation to be reloaded AND that it can break at this time. Israelis talk about t-62 exiting the battlefield with the gun pointing at his max elevation...
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you intelligent bastard
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looks like a modifided panzer IV mad toolook like a Panther
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nah, had to use a ruler for some of it
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