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Description Anna's reaction to the Jackunzel children headcanon, and evidently mine.

Alright, so here's my opinion, which will probably turn into a rant: I don't like this idea. And it isn't just because I'm a Janna shipper. It probably goes way back to Jackunzel overall, a hyped up ship, which I personally find overrated. And that being because it's based off of appearance (face it, the shippers explanation is that they look cute together, or have bare feet. Yeah, that's appearance. How about connections? Relations?). Rapunzel and Jack have nothing in common. And for me, similarities (and I mean, like on a personal level) is what's most important in shipping (especially non-canon).

Anyways, besides my dislike for Jackunzel, I just can't picture Jack as a father or Rapunzel as a mother. I mean, they're kids themselves. And I hate Elsa THE SNOW QUEEN (!) being reduced to a female mini-me of Jack Frost, the same goes for Anna. I've seen a lot of Frozen so far and trust me Elsa is not a copy of Jack and Anna is not a rip-off of Rapunzel. I don't like how this idea enforces that. Is there anyone out there who's willing to appreciate these sisters as new, great and unique characters? Instead of dumping them into an over-obsessed fandom based on their looks and nothing more?

So, yeah, that's been irking me lately, so I went ahead and put out my opinion.
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noodlekuki In reply to ??? [2015-10-03 23:48:22 +0000 UTC]

Oh, so, like that they had similar origins? I mean, I understand now why people ship it more than I used to. In fact, I bet I myself could listΒ a few reasons. I appreciate Jackunzel more than I used to, but I still don't like Jackunzel children. Thanks for the link, by the way. ^^

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ButterflyCrescent92 [2015-07-27 16:28:20 +0000 UTC]

I know I've commented on this before but, why can't Jackunzel shippers just create an OC? Instead of using an already existing character, they can just create an original Jackunzel daughter (or son). Why is it always a daughter?

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noodlekuki In reply to ButterflyCrescent92 [2015-07-27 22:13:55 +0000 UTC]

That's okay. ^^ I agree, why not make an OC? I guess because having the existing characters there makes it easier. But I seriously wouldn't mind Jackunzel children that were OCs. Also, I honestly don't know. :/ There was this one Jackunzel fanfic where they had a son, though, that I know of.

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mlpis [2015-07-13 00:20:05 +0000 UTC]

I don't like the jackunzel family either, Seriously, one YouTuber, said the STUPIDEST FUCKING THING EVER! "Omg, I totally love this family! You see, Anna is like her mothers side because she wants to be free, and elsa is like her father's side, because she has the same powers." That REALLY REALLY pissed me off! And the rest of her videos just had Rapunzel Jack and Anna, the ONLY seemed to care about about Rapunzels frozen heart, yeah, seriously, instead of anna having the frozen heart, she fucking replaced it with Rapunzel instead, how stupid is that!? And when elsa was running away from her kingdom, Rapunzel tired to stop her, but she hit Rapunzel in the heart, so jack, just ran to Rapunzel, INSTEAD of following her daughter who was running away! Seriously, if I was jack I would follow her, to stop her, but NOPE he goes to Rapunzel cause he doesn't care about his running away daughter that might get caught by pitch! So before that, Anna wants to marry Hans the guy she just met that day, Rapunzel was her mother was weirdly okay with it Β YOUR DAUGHTER IS MARRYING A GUY SHE JUST MET! YOUR A FUCKING AWFUL PARENT!!!!! so anna just asks a simple question, YOU WHERE FUCKING YELLING AT HER!!! so seriously, no one seems to care about elsa, you know how I remember that awful plot? because it's a awful plot! So that YouTuber is fucking dumb ass, and now, I never EVER will like that youtuber, she's stupid and has NO FUCKING IDEA how to write a good story, so I hate the jackunzel family too. I will never ever like it!

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-13 14:51:15 +0000 UTC]

Ugh, yes, so annoying. Well, actually, that YouTuber's comment is a pretty logical conclusion, but I still don't agree with her viewpoint. Ohhh, ehhh, what's the point in changing roles with Rapunzel getting the frozen heart instead of Anna??? I mean, Anna's right there, you might as well let her have it. XD I guess it was their way of trying to integrate Punzie more into the story. Hm, yeah, since Jack actually has the abilities to follow Elsa, he really should! The only reason Anna or Hans didn't was because they weren't prepared or anything. Hah, hah, yeah, that makes total sense. XD I'm sure even Rapunzel would be iffy about hooking up with a man in less than a day. After all, she was just as desperate to see people as Anna, but certainly didn't throw herself at the first person to flirt with her. XD Yeah, it seems that Elsa is just kind of... there. Exactly, some of the worst plots stick in your head because of how memorably terrible they are. XD Well, I wouldn't say she's an idiot or anything, to me, she just sounds inexperienced, honestly. I bet if you fish around her account (or if she has other social media, there, too) you might be able to see if she's kinda young or not- then, of course, in the case that she is, maybe cut her a little slack?

But, um, yeah, I despised this headcanon when it surfaced almost two years ago. And I stillΒ don'tΒ really likeΒ it, now.

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-13 15:10:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I guess I can cut her a little slack, but still, I don't like the plot she made, but I'm fucking happy you made this, and I'm not the biggest fan of her YouTube channel, and I hardly visit it, and those are the only videos I watched, she probably does know how to write a story, but not those days, and I don't even have a YouTube account, and I don't fish around her account! The only accounts I fish around is Mr. Creepypastas, see if there's any knew creepypastas he narrated, yeah, I guess she not an idiot, just who the hell would replace the frozen heart with Rapunzel, to me it's just stupid.

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-16 20:46:35 +0000 UTC]

I understand. Thanks, glad someone else supports Anti-Jackunzel Children. Oh, okay, yeah, now that you mention it, I guess that'd be pretty creepy to snoop around her account. Sorry I suggested that. >.< I don't know, to me it's not that idiotic, but, yeah, might as well just give Anna the Frozen heart instead of trying to integrate Rapunzel in any way you can to the point where you start messing with Frozen's theme and narrative.

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-16 21:32:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Anna should have the frozen heart, and I REALLY hate that Elsa isn't hardly in the story, and no one cares about her, and you might find this not surprising, she's one of my favorite Disney princesses, and that fact that no one cared for her in the story is totally BS and is the story she wrote supposed to be about family? Well if it IS you need to let the everyone care for each other, they can't just let one person go, and SUDDENLY care about the other person, and she didn't give the FULL reason why family is special, hell, I guess she doesn't know the REAL power of family, family is about caring for each other, and ALWAYS being there for them, and no one was there for Elsa, if one of your family members runs away, you need to follow them, but you can't just let the person go, you need to follow them and make them come back, telling them they need to be there for one and other, you can't just run to someone else, yes, if that person is hurt, they would probably tell you to follow them, and make sure there safe, trust me, if your "wife" gets hurt, and the her daughter runs away she would tell him to follow her, yes, daughters or sons do run away form there family, and they can hurt there parents, like slap them or well, break something special, they would probably run away due to what they done that was terrible and felt guilty for it, so yeah, that's what family is about, sure I didn't cover everything, but this is part of it.

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-17 01:12:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, hah, hah, I see that you are an Elsa fan. I totally agree, honestly, this AU is at its' base purely for shipping reasons only. I'm sure no one was thinking, "Oh, wouldn't it be such a great family dynamic?", but "Oh, wouldn't it be cool for Jack and Rapunzel to have these children?" :/

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-17 01:56:20 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's just to make jackunzel more popular.

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-17 03:02:05 +0000 UTC]

Exactly. Β 

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-17 03:12:56 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-17 04:27:22 +0000 UTC]

Β 

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-18 01:51:19 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I'm a jelsa fan, but I like Janna too.

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-18 21:03:27 +0000 UTC]

I see, glad you're partial to both

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-18 21:57:43 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-20 19:48:20 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-20 20:51:09 +0000 UTC]

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-17 03:10:21 +0000 UTC]

Yep. :l

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noodlekuki In reply to mlpis [2015-07-17 04:27:32 +0000 UTC]

Β 

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mlpis In reply to noodlekuki [2015-07-17 17:27:21 +0000 UTC]

*nose head*

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ButterflyCrescent92 [2015-05-14 23:04:30 +0000 UTC]

I believe the cousins theory since it makes more sense but Jack being a father? Sure he likes kids but I don't think he'll settle down and have children of his own. I've seen some comics of this and to be honest, the stories make no sense. ANNA AND ELSA have their own parents in the movie. They have their canon parents. Rapunzel isn't their mom. Rapunzel and Anna and Elsa's parents are siblings so that makes them cousins.Β 

I hate when Jackunzel shippers tell Jelsa shippers that they can't ship Jack and Elsa because THEY'RE FATHER AND DAUGHTER. That's a load of BS. If they're free to ship Jackunzel, then Jelsa fans are free to ship who they want to and no one should stop them.Β 

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noodlekuki In reply to ButterflyCrescent92 [2015-05-20 19:07:24 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree, I can't see Jack as a did, only like a brother or something. Exactly! And by changing their parents, it affects canon. Their canon parents had a major affect on Anna and Elsa's development because of that whole separation thing. Put Jack and Rapunzel in their place and what happens? I certainly can't see Jack or Rapunzel separating their daughters like that. So how would Frozen canon remain intact? The idea of Rapunzel being their mom is also so weird in my head. Well, it's not confirmed that their parents are related but it's a logical head canon to have.

I know, that makes no sense! Exactly!!!

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ButterflyCrescent92 In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-21 02:30:57 +0000 UTC]

Jack Frost is a SPIRIT so that means that he's dead. So how can he reproduce, let alone have children of his own? Jack can't settle down and have a family because he's too busy with being a guardian. Sometimes, Jackunzel and Jelsa fans forget that Jack doesn't even have a BODY to begin with. Rapunzel and Jack are a little child like themselves and Elsa looks much more mature than them. It's ridiculous to have Elsa and Anna to be their children when Rapunzel is like the same age as them.Β 

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noodlekuki In reply to ButterflyCrescent92 [2015-05-21 20:14:52 +0000 UTC]

Not necessarily, if he were dead, he'd be the spirit of Jackson Overland Frost, but he was reborn as a different person. Although he isn't necessarily a human mortal, he isn't a ghost, either. If he were a ghost, it'd probably be much harder for people to see him or touch him, too.Β But still, I doubt he can have children, as well. I agree, I just don't think he is a character that will "settle down and find a nice girl to raise a family with". He's an immortal spirit, that's not the kind of stuff his life can consist of. He missed out on theΒ chance for that when he died as Jackson. Also, yeah, he'd be all over the place all the time, he wouldn't have the time to be taking care of screaming babies. He does have a body, but not a normal one, considering if you don't believe in him, it's not even there. But if you do, he's fully tangible. Exactly, since I see Elsa as more mature than them, it's hard to imagine her as their child.

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ButterflyCrescent92 In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-22 11:47:52 +0000 UTC]

Jackunzel fans probably think that: Jack Frost+Rapunzel=Elsa and AnnaΒ 

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noodlekuki In reply to ButterflyCrescent92 [2015-05-23 15:41:52 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure that's how it went.

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ButterflyCrescent92 In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-24 03:13:32 +0000 UTC]

Elsa is like a hybrid of Jack and Rapunzel, I guess. She somewhat looks like Rapunzel but with ice powers.

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noodlekuki In reply to ButterflyCrescent92 [2015-05-25 03:55:48 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I can kind of see that, actually I think Elsa's face looks more like Rapunzel than Anna's (as people liked or possibly still like to say)

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Literature-Goddess [2015-05-01 13:23:14 +0000 UTC]

Anti Jackunzel in general, loathe Jackunzel family.

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-20 19:04:11 +0000 UTC]

I see. I don't mind Jackunzel as much as I used to, since it makes some sense. But the Jackunzel family idea is ridiculous and makes me cringe. Anna and Elsa have their own family background for a reason, changing it alters canon too much in a bad way. Plus, I couldn't see Jack or Rapunzel having Elsa and Anna separated the way they were. In fact, I can't see them as parents at all, especially of young women.

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-21 08:37:15 +0000 UTC]

Who just so happen to be royalty?

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-21 20:15:07 +0000 UTC]

Apparently so.

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-21 23:17:33 +0000 UTC]

But Jack isn't royalty, is he?

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-21 23:20:17 +0000 UTC]

No, not necessarily. I thought you meant Rapunzel in relation to Anna and Elsa.

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-22 00:31:22 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, but they aren't REALLY cousins, are they?

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-23 15:35:32 +0000 UTC]

No, that's just a popular headcanon.

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-24 00:10:45 +0000 UTC]

Dunno why.

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-25 04:05:28 +0000 UTC]

Because they look similar.

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-25 12:14:35 +0000 UTC]

How?

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-25 17:58:05 +0000 UTC]

Well, before Frozen came out, a lot of people were criticizing the character designs of Anna and Elsa for looking to similar to Rapunzel for one thing. I mean, I never agreed, I thought the sisters looked unique enough, but people are still hung up on the idea of them looking alike.

Personally, I like the idea of them being cousins, but only in an AU, not in actual canon, of course. Because they are similar enough to at least be that (certainly not sisters, though)

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-25 23:39:03 +0000 UTC]

WTF? Sisters?

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-26 21:47:37 +0000 UTC]

Well, no one really thinks that, I meant that hypothetically. At least, I think no one has that as their headcanon...

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-27 08:34:26 +0000 UTC]

Please don't let me see one.

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-27 11:44:36 +0000 UTC]

I won't ^^'

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-28 10:14:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, no guarantees... haha. Do you even ship Jackunzel as a couple? I like the idea of them as childhood friends, but not as lovers.

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noodlekuki In reply to Literature-Goddess [2015-05-28 17:41:03 +0000 UTC]

Only in the Big Four AU, anywhere else, I don't really. Yeah, seeing them as childhood friends is an interesting way of looking at it.

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Literature-Goddess In reply to noodlekuki [2015-05-29 14:11:39 +0000 UTC]

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Kaizellea [2015-03-05 04:32:34 +0000 UTC]

Can't stand Jackunzel, can't stand frost family

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noodlekuki In reply to Kaizellea [2015-03-05 21:23:24 +0000 UTC]

I'm impartial to Jackunzel, but the whole Frost Family idea is a joke.

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