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StrangelyShiny [2017-02-10 08:44:35 +0000 UTC]
I've tried to not argue with you. I've tried to not question your beliefs.
"I myself believe all sinners should be put in jail rather than executed, so that they have a chance to repent. I believe sinners should be put in jail and put to do labor. But, I understand if sometimes circumstances do not allow for such lenience."
I'm sorry, but I can't stay silent on something like this. What do you mean by "all sinners"? My mother divorced her first husband because he was abusive, then lived with my stepfather for eight years before they married. Should my parents have been put behind bars? Should my family have been forced apart because of "sin"? Should my best friend, who's not even a legal adult, be locked up and forced to do labor against her will simply because she's gay?
I'm sorry, but I think this is wrong. Do you really believe people should be imprisoned and enslaved just because they do things your religion doesn't agree with? I don't think that's love. I think that's imposing your will on others.
I don't want to hold any resentment against you. I will still read and enjoy your work. But I believe that, if you really want people to live long happy lives, the idea of punishing them because they aren't like you is extremely contradictory to that.
I hope I said my words in as civilized and polite a manner as possible.
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natsumihanaki20 In reply to StrangelyShiny [2017-02-10 22:47:26 +0000 UTC]
I never meant for them to be enslaved. I meant that criminals instead of lying in prison cells without doing anything, they should do work for the welfare of the population residing in their country. Work is the medicine for the soul, it keeps one from having evil thoughts and ennui. Actually, there's nothing wrong or evil in putting in jail individuals who commit high crimes against humanity and the order of the universe, such as gays, adulterers, murderers, those who commit incest, thieves, zoophiles, and other kind of bad people. Not all sinners should be sent in jail, not because sinning should not be punished, but because some sins cannot be proven and are subjective. For example, one might say that a man who does not give charity to the poor is being greedy, but perhaps he simply believes in rewarding only those who work. One cannot jail a man for lying in his private time, but if he lies at a university or in his job to costumers (in other words fraud); he should be jailed. Justice is righteousness, and punishing the evil is just. If imposing the will of the highest God and justice on people is considered evil, then; jailing those who commit murder is evil. Though, you are free to disagree, and I don't resent you for disagreeing with me. Though, hatred is sinful and evil, I won't hold it against you for hating me. It's understandable. If after reading this you no longer desire to be friends with me, I understand, and I won't recent you for it. Some people are burned by the sun's golden rays, whilst other rejoice in its warmth.
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StrangelyShiny In reply to natsumihanaki20 [2017-02-11 01:03:40 +0000 UTC]
I don't hate you, for it's clear you don't speak with malice. I may not agree with what you're saying, because I still believe being gay isn't a high crime against humanity. That's why I got so defensive, because somebody I deeply care about is gay, and the idea of her being punished for that just doesn't feel right. Mother always taught me that "God" is whatever the mind interprets he/she/it as, and that's how I ultimately view God. I won't deny that work can have positive effects, and honestly you have a good point. People in prison certainly shouldn't be pampered, but we're hitting a wall in terms of who we think should be behind bars. I don't think gays are bad people, and I hope someday you'll realize that too. If you want to pray for me, go right ahead; either way, I said I don't resent you, because I don't want to fall into the same trap I've fallen into before. Too often have I flown off the handle because of someone else's viewpoint. Even if I think yours is a tad extreme, yelling and swearing like I've done before would accomplish nothing.
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natsumihanaki20 In reply to StrangelyShiny [2017-02-11 15:30:55 +0000 UTC]
God is not what the mind fancies since that would mean He's a delusion. God left us writings, sent us prophets, and even sent us Jesus Christ so that we may know Him, so that the truth may be revealed to us there he reveals to us. I don't resent you for having a different viewpoint, or for being agnostic. I resent your beliefs as I see them as evil, but I don't resent you. You are free to disagree, and I won't hold it against your for doing so. I'm extremely blunt, so I may say offensive things without meaning any harm. I'm glad that we could terminate this peacefully, and I thank you for it. I'll pray for you, for the Highest God to show Himself to you, and for Him to preserve you. By the way, I'm sorry for my terrible English. I think I need to read more documents in English, so that I may not lose it.
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StrangelyShiny In reply to natsumihanaki20 [2017-02-11 21:34:39 +0000 UTC]
I appreciate that you hold nothing against me, and I hold nothing against you. Also, your English is actually pretty good, especially since I'm guessing it isn't your primary language.
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natsumihanaki20 In reply to StrangelyShiny [2017-02-12 04:02:12 +0000 UTC]
English is not my first language, but strive to perfect it to the point where I sound like a native speaker.
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