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MonocerosArts In reply to ??? [2017-11-13 00:27:15 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, there's a person on here who hates any animal that doesn't directly benefit humans. She hides behind the "they're invasive" mantra, but many of the animals she detests are actually returned natives, such as Equus. Even when said animal can be managed humanely, she prefers the most inhumane method of management, which suggests a degree of sadism.
She claims to be rational and scientific, but the fact that she literally spent two years stalking and slandering me, (going on three years now,) simply because I believe free-roaming horses should managed humanely, proves that this is a very emotional and un-objective issue for her. She and her friends have also done far worse to other people than they did to me. I really hope she gets the help she needs for her anger, manipulation, and sensitivity problems, because she won't be able to take scientific criticism in the real world if she keeps this up.
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LadyEllesmere In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-11-16 02:41:56 +0000 UTC]
Sounds about right.
People like that like to be miserable and could careless about earth or their fellow creatures.
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MonocerosArts In reply to LadyEllesmere [2017-11-16 18:56:39 +0000 UTC]
Sadly, yes. She and her supporters are fiercely protective of ranchers, even though cattle ranching is an incredibly wasteful and high-cost industry, not to mention the environmental damage it causes.
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LadyEllesmere In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-11-22 02:38:37 +0000 UTC]
Some people are just blind to things.
Those horses are basically wildlife they see as pests.
Funny, you could say we as a species are the real pests/
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sweetellepea [2017-05-19 03:31:39 +0000 UTC]
I don't believe mustangs are pests, but I do believe there is an issue. But I don't believe the issues surround Mustangs and other animals that call the west their home should be taken lightly.
I know the BLM set a quota for the amount of animals that are able to be supported on the land and that is roughly around 25,000 - 30,000. There are 75,000 Mustang at the moment, and about 15,000 - 30,000 are still roaming the wild. The other 45,000 - 60,000 are being held in long term and short term holding pens. Which for wild animals is inhumane. People have basically destroyed all natural predators that would normal help keep the population to a more sustainable (as well as other animals) and this is because what hunts horses also hunts livestock. I think the US seriously needs to take into account the amount of livestock that we raise and consume on western publics lands.
However, just complaining about that is not going to solve the problem. There is a very dire need that needs to address for the sake of the mustangs. It is our fault that this problem has araised and therefore it is our responsibility to do what is best for these animals.
After over 600 years of natural selection, the mustang has become a very sturdy and versatile breed. Research has been done to prove that they outperform many well-bred quarter horses in ranch work and are great for endurance and off trail riding. The don't get sick, they don't require a lot of feed, they have good sturdy legs and hooves, they are built to survive, and in general are a very hardy and sturdy breed. People miss the value of these animals because they don't have a pedigree.
These are valuable animals that God created and I know there has to be a better way to protect our lands and protect Mustangs without forcing them to live their lives in an overcrowded holding pen or starving to death on overgrazed land.
I just feel like there needs to be less complaining and more action to start slowly but surely solving this issue that is slowly destroying the Mustang's legacy.
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MonocerosArts In reply to sweetellepea [2017-05-19 22:38:27 +0000 UTC]
I agree. I don't think I'm merely complaining, though. I offered several alternatives, and I even have a stamp devoted to one: unicornarama.deviantart.com/ar… . What gets me are the people who acknowledge there's a problem, and their solution is just round up more horses, even though that's obviously not working.
I don't mean to be rude, but your 75,000 number isn't accurate. The BLM estimates that there are only around 36,000 in the wild. Were you including the ones in captivity? Because there are around 50,000 in captivity, so that would be close to your number.
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sweetellepea In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-05-21 21:03:12 +0000 UTC]
Oh wasn't saying you're complaining XD sorry if it came off that way. I was referring to both sides of the argument in general. And I totally agree because those are wild animals. They have spent their entire lives roaming hundreds of miles of terrain a day. Yes, the ecosystem is collapsing but that was our irresponsibility of taking out the wolf and cougar population for the sake of protecting US's livestock. The government needs to make it easier to adopt these animals out to rehoming and rehabilitation programs because most people don't have the experience or the time to adopt and train a wild mustang that has had very little human contact. Fertility control was also another option, but the BLM only uses 1% of its 50million budget towards it. (which is still 5mil but still) Then we could castrate colts and stallion, but a lot of animal activist believe that to be cruel.
Bringing back wolves and mountain lions would be fantastic from the government. A study was done in Yellowstone Park regarding the effect of bringing wolves back into Yellowstone. However, for cattle, this poses a problem. The only way to change the minds of cattle ranchers is to change the minds of the consumers and unfortunately, that is a very very unrealistic goal due to other political problems. We are a very wasteful nation that demands cheap resources. Overproduction of goods is the only way to keep the price of goods from inflating.
Then there is euthanasia which such a sad way to solve this problem. I believe the BLM voted to euthanasia most of the horses that were being held in holding pens in September of 2016. The public went wild and they withdrew the request for permission to do so from Congress. But yet here we are still in the same problem.
I honestly believe that the Fertility Control is the best bet along with castrating colts and stallions to prevent the Mustang from over breeding. Also bringing more awareness to the situation because frankly, most people don't know anything about the Mustang crisis. Like I said before, these are amazing amazing horses. They are a sturdy and reliable breed thanks to 600 years of natural section in the west. If the government allowed certified programs to buy, re-train, and rehome these horses under a year not only would the government be gaining income from that but it will also lower the need budget to take care of the pen horses as there are not as many and these horses are now giving back to the community through Equine therapy and also prison projects.
Yes, 75,000 in all. 25,000 to 30,000 in the wild and 45,000 to 50,000 in holding pens. Sorry, I thought I communicated that better XD
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MonocerosArts In reply to sweetellepea [2017-05-22 00:34:39 +0000 UTC]
Oh, okay! Sorry, I was super confused there!
Anyways, yes, I agree entirely. I believe PZP or other fertility controls would be preferable to castration, because castration affects the stallion's (now gelding's) behavior, and it also removes any possibility of that horse ever passing on its genes. The Mustang gene pool is already very small thanks to removals, so the trick is to keep the population under control while still allowing as diverse a gene pool as possible. PZP is temporary, so a mare who is darted will eventually go back into heat after a few years (depending on the potency of the dart.) Injections last longer, but you have to round them up to inject them, so that kind of defeats the purpose. Thus every mare and stallion (provided he gets his own herd) can have a foal, but the total number of foals would be greatly reduced. Small population, diverse gene pool.
Reintroducing wolves and mountain lions would be the most natural route, but yeah, it would be an issue for cattle ranchers. There are ways to deter predators, though! In Kenya, farmers use moving or flashing lights to frighten off lions, hyenas, and other predators: www.ted.com/talks/richard_ture… . Large dogs can also be trained to threaten any predators who are brave enough get too close to the lights. In Namibia, dogs are trained to fight cheetahs and protect livestock: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/780… . Granted, it is a different continent with different predators, but the concept remains the same. They will undoubtedly need to be tweaked for North American predators, but ideas like these could help. Cattle ranches are not as helpless as some people make them out to be.
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sweetellepea In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-05-22 16:14:49 +0000 UTC]
Totally agree!
I think it would be really great if we brought wolves and mountains lions back into the west. I really hope this is something that is taken seriously in the future.
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Dragonlord-Daegen [2017-05-13 06:34:02 +0000 UTC]
what is the exact state of the wild mustang population currently?
i was always fond of horses....always wanted to ride a horse
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MonocerosArts In reply to Dragonlord-Daegen [2017-05-13 08:02:03 +0000 UTC]
Okay, sorry about that! Anyway, things have been looking up a bit lately because the almighty dollar is pointing toward PZP as the best management method. There are between 16,000 and 39,000 Mustangs left in the wild, and special interest groups like oil drilling and cattle ranching want them gone. Roundups still continue, which are incredibly inhumane.
I'm thinking about making some Mustang comics, sort of like my adoption comics. Since they're scientific in nature and not so much philosophical, it's difficult to condense both sides' arguments into short speech bubbles. I don't want to make straw men. So far the Mustang comics that I've done were more for laughs than anything else.
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MonocerosArts In reply to disneyandanimals [2017-05-14 19:46:50 +0000 UTC]
I don't understand what it is, I'm sorry... It's a Lion Guard spin-off, right?
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disneyandanimals In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-05-14 20:08:03 +0000 UTC]
It is kind of a spin-off, but I was so inspired by your Asian Guard, your Australian Guard, your North American Guard, and your Arctic Guard, that I'm asking you to make a picture based off my Lion Guard, with Kion the Masai Lion Cub as the fiercest, Fuli the adult Tanzanian Cheetah as the fastest, Ricky the adult Indian Rhinoceros as the strongest, T-Bone the Tasmanian Devil Joey as the bravest, and Earl the adult Bald Eagle as the keenest of sight.
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Dragonlord-Daegen In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-05-13 08:13:58 +0000 UTC]
than perhaps u can make them...and maby other wildlife conservation comics (such as the routine killing of sharks,snakes,wolves and other misunderstood predators...or the reckless destruction of the oceans through drilling)
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MonocerosArts In reply to Dragonlord-Daegen [2017-05-15 20:49:10 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I'm just having trouble condensing scientific arguments into short speech bubbles.
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dressagelover101 [2016-07-05 02:29:27 +0000 UTC]
Says it was updated; what's been changed?
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MonocerosArts In reply to dressagelover101 [2016-07-05 03:30:52 +0000 UTC]
I update it with little things every now and then. I'm not sure when the last time I updated it was, though. It's probably got much more info than it did when you first read it, though!
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FirespiritDesigns21 [2016-06-23 04:24:49 +0000 UTC]
ahhh i saw a herd if wildnhorses theother days the foals where so fute its so sad that theybhave to be taken from their home
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MonocerosArts In reply to FirespiritDesigns21 [2016-06-24 12:52:56 +0000 UTC]
It is sad. And what's even more sad is that there are much better ways to manage wild horses than roundups: the-cynical-unicorn.deviantart… . Unfortunately, the pro-roundup and anti-Mustang people are just as bad as the "do nothing" people.
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purplecruiser [2016-04-20 01:31:27 +0000 UTC]
FUCK. Sorry for the language, but this has seriously opened up my eyes. Now, I'm a fan of the movie named. However, I realize that it is a work of fiction, and not necessarily true to "real life". I am on your side in this, and may I just say, the government/large corporations/WHATEVER need to STOP sticking their heads in their asses and STOP using their vast amounts of money to drag things into neat little rows so shit works in thier favor.
SERIOUSLY, it's fucking messed up.
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MonocerosArts In reply to purplecruiser [2016-04-20 04:27:04 +0000 UTC]
It's just so illogical it makes me so angry. I enjoy that movie, too, but it really bothers me that anti-Mustang people try to make anyone who has compassion on horses out to be someone who takes that movie as fact.
I'm curious, but have you read any of my other Mustang stuff on here? I have a bunch of journals, some literature, and more stamps and some comics all about this issue.
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purplecruiser In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-04-20 13:26:47 +0000 UTC]
Well . . . . no, not really. I saw the stamp and started reading out of curiosity. I admit I skimmed quite a bit, that's in part due to how the paragraphs are really big. It makes it hard for me to read it easily. I might poke around more eventually, but I've been a bit busy with work stuff and storywriting.
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MonocerosArts In reply to purplecruiser [2016-04-21 00:53:24 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, it is kind of long. I'm not sure how else to completely tell all the information. I have a creepy stalker who hates horses (and me) and nit-picks everything I write. If I leave anything out, she tears me to shreds, even though what I left out was probably blatantly obvious. Seriously, one time I suggested that the BLM erect fences around some HMAs, and she made fun of me, saying that I supposedly don't know that horses need to drink. You'd think it would be obvious that a fenced HMA would need a water source, but no, because I didn't mention it, she made fun of me. So mature, right?
But anyway! If you're interested in learning more, you can feel free to check out my other stamps and literature (I'm also currently working on more), and you can read my journals for updates about the BLM's actions.
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purplecruiser In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-04-22 00:50:09 +0000 UTC]
It's not that it's long, it's just how the paragraphs are so big. I tend to write paragraphs only three-lines long, maybe a tiny bit of a fourth, before making a new paragraph. It's just . . . easier for me to keep my spot and connect to the writing. Otherwise I'm floundering, trying to figure out what I'm reading since I end up skipping lines.
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MonocerosArts In reply to purplecruiser [2016-04-22 12:59:03 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, maybe I should break them up into multiple ones. You'd like my comics, then, because they aim to get the message across quickly in just a few lines of text.
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purplecruiser In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-04-22 23:20:28 +0000 UTC]
I don't mind long stories, it's just when the text itself if clumped together like that. It's harder for me to stay on track within that group of text. Whereas, if one large chapter is broken up into two or three smaller ones (referencing yours) then I have an easier time of understanding (overall) what I'm looking at.
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Graeystone [2016-03-09 23:27:41 +0000 UTC]
Personally I like Corvettes and Firebirds. . .
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MonocerosArts In reply to Graeystone [2016-03-10 00:44:13 +0000 UTC]
I just want one that goes when I press the gas pedal. XD
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Doe-tail [2016-02-16 04:02:57 +0000 UTC]
Jstor sucks
Paywalls do not help the spread of knowledge
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MonocerosArts In reply to Doe-tail [2016-02-16 04:30:44 +0000 UTC]
I have the jstor source mostly for a certain unnamed horse-hater who stalks my page and quotes jstor much of the time to convince people that wild horses should be completely exterminated. She's pretty radical, if you ask me. You'll probably run into her or her followers eventually if you get vocal about wildlife conservation on here.
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Doe-tail In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-02-16 04:47:26 +0000 UTC]
Sweet, I live for encounters with people like that.
I consider myself radical in my dedication to the conservation. For me working with the environment puts food on the table and pays the bills. THat I will defend with everything I have. It is my only SJW fight.
As a conservation professional, I have to keep professional. Not easy in the face of ignorance and arrogance
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MonocerosArts In reply to Doe-tail [2016-02-18 05:16:48 +0000 UTC]
Well, the way I look at it, we live in the environment just like the rest of earth's creatures do. If we destroy the environment, we'll be destroying our home. Not a very smart thing to do, is it? And besides that, animals might not be people, but they can still suffer. Why should we cause suffering if there are ways to avoid it.
I'm glad that there are real, professional jobs where people work to protect animals and the earth. Government organizations are so resistant to change (as we see with the Mustang situation, among other things), that we need people working hard to combat them.
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Doe-tail [2016-02-16 00:09:14 +0000 UTC]
I scanned over the info so if the answer to my question is the text, my bad for not looking enough
However
1. What is the status of wild equines in North America, as a native species or introduced?
I could argue both ways on that
2. Is there an establish biological carrying capacity of land for wild equines, ie a ideal number of individuals per unit area?
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MonocerosArts In reply to Doe-tail [2016-02-16 00:57:32 +0000 UTC]
That's fine! It's pretty long.
1) There's actually debate about whether nor not Mustangs are native to North America. Many wild horse advocates will tell you that they are, and anti-Mustangers will tell you that they're just another non-native invasive species. The truth is more complicated that it seems at first glance. Horses were present in North America during the Ice Age (we have found fossils of single-toed horses (Equus caballos) dating back over 10,000 years, along with writings from the Chinese and other civilizations that were written well over 3,000 years ago.) The seem to have died out about the same time that the ancestors of the Native Americans appeared. It's most likely that these humans killed these native equines off. Horses were later re-introduced by the Spanish when they began exploring and colonizing the New World. This journal has links to articles that explain it better and provide evidence:
Three Articles Regarding the Mustang Situation 1) “The Horse and Burro as Positively Contributing Returned Natives in North America” by Craig C. Downer: http://article.sciencepublishinggroup.com/pdf/10.11648.j.ajls.20140201.12.pdf
Summary: The prevailing view is that the horse species (Equus caballos) is not native to North America and only appeared on the scene 500 years ago, but this article describes how horses are most likely native to North America, and were killed off by humans before being later reintroduced by the Spanish about 500 years ago. The article is written from an evolutionary point of view, but describes various fossils of equines that originated in North America. While the “millions of years” is debatable, the fossils are not. The evidence, including fossils, DNA, an actual frozen Equus caballos dating back 10,000 years, pre-Co
2) It's different for each Herd Management Area. The BLM and Forest Service have established Appropriate Management Levels for each HMA, and they're all different, depending on the environment. On average, AMLs are usually around one horse per 100 acres or so (sometimes more, sometimes less). Here's more info about HMAs from the BLM: www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/prog/wh_b… . The biggest problem with HMAs is that the BLM allows livestock grazing on the lands (as you'll see in the link). This allows the BLM to blame the livestock's habitat damage on the wild horses, thus enabling them to get away with making the horses' AMLs even smaller than they already are, and therefore giving them the justification to remove more and more horses.
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Doe-tail In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-02-16 01:13:32 +0000 UTC]
I will read over the information again.
As an ecologist (hopefully soon to be employed with the USFS, BLM or USFW), I am familiar (with the idea at least) of western US habitats. My expertise is with white-tailed deer and native vegetation of the SE US.
So...
I would have to be of the opinion that horses would be native species, well actually a native genre. I am not sure where the modern Equus is from though. However I would suspect that the current environment would be suitable for wild horse populations, especially in the absence of other free ranging megafauna that form large herds.
I have been introduced to BLM issues recently due to the recent NWR insurgency in Oregon.
Thank you for the information. This is a issue I might find myself dealing with in the near future
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MonocerosArts In reply to Doe-tail [2016-02-16 01:43:10 +0000 UTC]
That's cool! I haven't had the opportunity yet to work with those organizations, but I would love to do so. I'm wary of the BLM, though, because of the damage I see them doing to the North American environment. They call it help, but making wild horse populations bloom and then spending more money to round up the extra horses certainly doesn't help. Even the Nation Academy told them to use fertility control, but the BLM ignored them.
The evidence indicates that the horse species originated in North America and spread out to other continents during the Continental Drift. The majority of the North American single-toed horses appear to have been killed off by early humans during the Ice Age. It's doubtful that there were any left by the time the Spanish showed up, so the current wild horses are probably all descended from European horses. Most of the current large megafauna are two-toed bovine and goat-like or deer-like animals. Horses are a bit different, but they're not entirely different, and they eat a wider variety of grasses than domestic cattle do, so they have an overall smaller impact. All in all they tend to blend in with the ecosystem, provided that humans don't cull their natural predators (cougars, wolves, coyotes, bears, etc.)
What happened with the NWR? I heard a little bit about it, but I can't make heads or tails of it.
Yep! It's very interesting stuff, provided you can keep a cool head about it. There are some folks on here (on both sides of the issue) who get pretty emotional about it. I've heard people say that wild horses should never be managed at all, and I've heard people say that we should start shooting wild horses because they hate them so much. As you can probably tell, both groups are run by emotions, albeit completely opposite emotions. The one side wants the wild horses to run free forever, and the other side is biased towards livestock ranching. They've all got their agendas, so you have to be careful that you stay objective. It's amazing how heated the wild horse debate can get.
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Doe-tail In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-02-16 02:48:49 +0000 UTC]
Naturally with any government agency there will be actions done that are not entirely ethical for whatever reason. Conservation and management agencies included. There has been many lawsuits against the forest service, wildlife service, and so on. Thus is why we need watchgroups to provide oversight. Case in point, the Sierra Club vs. Babbit, involving mismanagement of habitat inhabited by the Alabama dune mouse Peromyscus polionotus ammobates.
Recently, an armed anti-government group invaded and took over the Malheur NWR in OR in order to take the land from the government to give to private enterprise and the private landowner for logging and grazing of cattle. There is much to the story, I could write an whole term paper on it. Unfortunately it was an attempt to further politicize conservation and land management.
As far as population control, I have no answer that is the silver bullet. Using deer as an example (my particular study emphasis is urban and suburban deer), the technique used is dependent on the needs and views of the community with the problem.
Relocation would be effective to reduce the pressure on the landscape, however with deer, now relocation does little to control population numbers as deer have repopulated much of their former range after being hunted to near extinction in the early 20th century.
This is my conclusion,
Fences are expensive and difficult to maintain. Fences also negatively impact non-target species in their ability to range their territories.
Sterilizer agents are again expensive, need specially trained personnel to administer, and sterilization does little to reduce the damage caused by over population as it does not remove individuals from the population. This also does little to control and reduce the number of wildlife vehicle collisions as well. Sterilants could possible have a negative affect on non-target species
Which leaves us with lethal control.
This is of course the most controversial method, as it is less understood and accepted by the public.
Lethal removal is often the most effective in reducing populations and slowing recruitment in to the herd.
With deer and I assume with other species, removing young females of reproduction age, ie the does.
In all honesty, as this method emulates natural depredation in the absence of predators.
Is lethal control the right method? Once again, that is an question I simply do not have the answer too.
Which do I approve of? Honestly I am for the most natural, ecologically sound method available. But this issue is too complex for one methods fits all.
Do I support the wholesale slaughter of animals? Of course not, but this is an issue that ones emotions about animal issues can sometimes cloud judgements and lead to improper management and lawsuits.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Doe-tail [2016-02-16 03:08:30 +0000 UTC]
Relocation would be effective to reduce the pressure on the landscape, however with deer, now relocation does little to control population numbers as deer have repopulated much of their former range after being hunted to near extinction in the early 20th century.
Deer are much more adaptive than horses, but I see your point. They need to be manage regardless of where they are. Like with deer, wild horses' natural predators are culled by humans, thus they can't manage the herbivore's populations effectively and it's left to us to do it.
Fences are expensive and difficult to maintain. Fences also negatively impact non-target species in their ability to range their territories.
Fences would be more to block off cattle grazing land, not wildlife land. However, if the target area is large enough and doesn't contain migrating land animals (which we don't have many of in North America that come to mind), fencing off a large area of wildland would create a sort of sanctuary. Fencing has also been used with success to contain the feral horses of Assatueague Island so that they don't overrun the island. Obviously it's not a fix-all solution, but it could be used if things get really rough.
Sterilizer agents are again expensive, need specially trained personnel to administer, and sterilization does little to reduce the damage caused by over population as it does not remove individuals from the population. This also does little to control and reduce the number of wildlife vehicle collisions as well. Sterilants could possible have a negative affect on non-target species.
The NAS’s solution to this problem is to reduce the number of helicopter roundups done each year and to increase to use of fertility control drugs. The drugs named are porcine zona pellucida (PZP) and GonaCon for mares and chemical vasectomy for stallions. These fertility control methods – called “on-the-range-management” – have been used on the wild horses of Assateague Island since 1988 and are tried and true. They have had no ill effects on non-target species. It takes effort and money, yes, but if the BLM has the resources to perform yearly massive helicopter roundups, so they have the resources to dart mares from those helicopters. If freelance wildlife biologists can identify and track the horses and keep track of which ones have been darted, so can the BLM. The NAS also estimates that the BLM would save approximately $6,000,000 by directing its focus to PZP as opposed to helicopter roundups.
As for lethal control, that should be a last resort. The purpose of wildlife management is to protect life, not take it. If there is absolutely no other way, then we have to do what we have to do. As it stands, if a herd (or herds) was really in trouble or was really causing a problem, the BLM can completely zero out the herd and hold them until a decision is made about what to do. More information here:
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Doe-tail In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-02-16 03:26:14 +0000 UTC]
With relocation I suspect the issue is to where to relocate the horses too, as they are not a "game" species and that their native status is controversial.
From the picture I can see the land on the left is severely overgrazed, nothing but typical desert vegetation. Most of which is extremely well suited to resist herbivores. But I cant help but think, what is keeping the herd in an area that is less productive, especially when there are young? Fences, geographical boundaries, the limits of an equine's home range?
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MonocerosArts In reply to Doe-tail [2016-02-16 03:40:10 +0000 UTC]
Yes, that's why I'm not very fond of relying on relocation. I'd rather remove problem horses until the land recovers, and then release a small number and carefully manage them with fertility drugs.
The picture on the left was taken in Nevada. It's a worst-case scenario photo. There aren't many cases like it, fortunately. Horses tend to avoid areas like that, for obvious reasons. I don't know why those particular horses were in that area. If I recall, I think there was a drought and the BLM had to do an emergency gather. It's in the link I have in the description of the banner. I don't remember the exact story, sorry...
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Doe-tail In reply to MonocerosArts [2016-02-16 03:57:50 +0000 UTC]
Drought did come to mind. Drought will play a larger role in management decisions in the future for sure.
You mentioned the land fragmentation. Do you have an example of an area with horses that I could look over the satellite imagery. Particularly a place where there is a great deal of controversy of management.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Doe-tail [2016-02-16 04:14:00 +0000 UTC]
Yes, drought is very important to consider.
Well, the current one is the Wyoming herd that the BLM plans to remove, sterilize, and then release again. Here's a journal about it: the-cynical-unicorn.deviantart… . There's a blog in my group about the methods the BLM planning to use to sterilize the mares, because it's gruesome! I'm not sure what the BLM wants to accomplish with this. It can't be to protect the land because they're going to release all the horses again. It can't be to create a self-sustainable herd because they can't reproduce after all the mares have been sterilized. They say it's an "experiment," but there are other ways to test what they want to test without ripping ovaries out of mares without anesthesia.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Kajm [2015-10-15 02:20:39 +0000 UTC]
What's lordy-o-stamps?
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