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Published: 2014-01-04 06:26:24 +0000 UTC; Views: 1323; Favourites: 100; Downloads: 18
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Hey all!I'm really glad to post this up! Not only do I not have a recent example of a detailed digital painting, but my gallery is also rather devoid of anything Sci-Fi. I've been itching to change this lately. When I was a kid I almost exclusively drew robots and mechs.
Anyways, this solves both those issues, and I'm very pleased with it.
Thanks for looking!
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The shape of the snout reminds me slightly of a wolf or canine.Β
There is a lot of detail and good coloring/shading in this picture.Β
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I'd try to avoid this one on a bad day.
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I'd try to avoid her on any day.
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Amazing! Such a beautiful face! Everything about this piece is fantastic!
Great work!
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The pleasure is entirely mine!
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Thank you. c: Definitely more where this came from.
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Yikes. What got her (this is a female, right?) so mad?
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I had a friend suggest that she was at a future bar and some guy was hitting on her. But I'm pretty sure you're free to make up your own story.
And it started as a female, turned male during painting, and now I'm just not sure. Hahaha.
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If I had to guess, I'd say this was a female who was angry at a male, not because he was hitting on her, but because she wanted to mate with him and he didn't want to. xD
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I'm having trouble deciding between a few scenarios.
She is mad because her little brother ate all of the heart shaped marshmallows out of the box of lucky charms, and broke the free toy, and her mom won't buy her a new box.
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She is angry because even though she was, like, the last person to arrive at work and stuff, nobody has made a fresh batch of coffee, and the coffee had been sitting in the pot in the break room overnight, and after she cleaned the pot and started a new batch, a bunch of other people came and poured themselves coffee and left nothing for her, so she has to make another batch but she doesn't even like coffee so whatever.
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Everyone thinks he's a girl and he keeps getting cat calls
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Oh. Very different scenarios for sure.
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Not so sure about that one.
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It's not as stereotypical as the other one. lol
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I'll give you points for originality, but I think you lost a few in the "appropriate" category. : P
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Well, its just like the other scenario, but reversed.
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Man oh man, your coloring skills are seriously amazing. <3 I really can't believe how much you've improved!
I can see that your anatomy is still the same though, have you thought about studying/studied animal anatomy more?
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Well thank you!
And I have, but not as extensively as I would have liked. On one hand, I don't personally think there's much wrong with making some stuff up for something that doesn't exist, but on the other, at least knowing the anatomy well can be a big help in breaking it. You're the good with anatomy person, I wouldn't mind some pointers or good resources/book titles/links if you have some. I'm always open for advice.
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Of course there's nothing wrong with making stuff up, but it's important to base what you're making up on real things. It makes it more real and believable, especially since there is literally nothing that our brains can imagine that isn't based on reality in SOME way.
The best thing you could start doing to improve your anatomy right now though, is to use more organic shapes. You draw reeeeally square jaws for your creatures, and to be honest, that makes it look like you don't understand anatomy very well. But like I said, use organic shapes, and that should a lot!
As for books, I've got a few:
An Atlas of Animal Anatomy for the Artist - H. W. Ellenberger (online PDF if you'd like: ninabee.dapshow.com/stuff/pdfs⦠I dunno if the file is safe to download though, and I don't really wanna try.)
The Laws Guide to Drawing Birds - John Muir Laws
The Artist's Guide to Animal Anatomy - Gottfried Bammes
The Art of Animal Drawing - Ken Hultgren (SUPER CHEAP! Only 4 bucks. It's mostly filled with tips rather than actual information, but the art is really nice and again, cheap as heck.)
Hope that helps? I could do redlines or something if you need me to, idk.
Also, just to let you know, I'm really not good with animal anatomy, I just make sure to always use photo references when I draw things. There seems to be a stigma about using references, and a misconception that really great artists don't use them, but I see a lot of professionals say that they practically ALWAYS use them. And it makes perfect sense to, because unless you have photographic memory, there's really no way to remember every single thing about anatomy and perspective and everything else in art.
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Thanks for the resources and feed back. I will definitely consider it. On the one hand, I actually really like the square snouted dragons, and box them that way on purpose. Unfortunately, I don't have any other kind I do, so I could see where it looks like I don't know what I'm doing (because outside of that, I don't.) I best if I poked at it enough, I could even find a way to make the box dragons a little more plausible looking. But yeah, definitely need to expand dictionary of head shapes for me.
And I don't have anything against reference myself. c: I'm attending art school, I never hear the end of the reference thing. The misconception exists mostly online, for some reason. At least, in my experience.
But yes, animal studies, will do, might sketch dump.
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Yeah I mean I do like your boxy dragons, they look unique and nice and it's an interesting way to style them, but drawing with some variety n stuff is good too of course. Maybe you could try referencing turtles for them? They've got squarish heads. And if you're going for believability, definitely avoid super flat planes, like how you drew the Dragon Girl Bust. Something more like Dragon Doodle would work a lot better, it's sort of squarish, but not too much.
Ah okay, I've never been to art school or anything, so I didn't know it was probably only an online thing.
Yessss I wanna see them!
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Good call. The super flat planes might not work as well with realistic rendering. Maybe if I'm doing something a little more stylized though, it might. Its definitely something to think about.
Good call on the turtle too.
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First, I want to say I completely apologize for the odd chopped-off reply I gave regarding the James Gurney book - I accidentally sent it way before I was done, and I can't figure out where the source is (which image, etc.). I meant to say that Lhune first made mention of that book to me, and I've been craving it ever since, even with three or four courses of Color Theory under my belt just now!
In any case, I find that boid snakes have nice rectangular muzzles, which may provide some basis in reality should you be looking for animals that mimic the muzzle shape you enjoy. And, in the end, sometimes it's just plain fun to go with something completely off-the-hook. Heck, hexapodal vertebrates don't technically exist, but I do my damndest to try to make them work as if they do! ^w^ That's the fun of plausible fantasy, come on!
Good luck, and I look forward to seeing what you create next!
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That's alright! The chat was actually in my group membership submission; I don't know how to find those again either. Lhune is another name I definitely recognize. She commented on my Conceptart.org Sketchbook forum about 2-3 years back. (I remember because it was super exciting. 
I looked up boid snake. That's good one, I'll have to poke at those. I like the shape for the top of their nose.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Ah, lovely! Good to hear. ^^ You're welcome!
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I agree that using reference is a very very good tool, and priceless when you want to convey something realistically, even if the subject you are drawing does not exist in real life. I know that my own work improves considerably when I use reference. On major works of art, I will take what I understand from what I've observed in real life and apply it to the image, using various references as reminders. I don't often draw images that are exact inch-for-inch when compared to the photo, but use lighting, scale or fur patterns, and color reference to maintain accuracy while creating an otherwise original image.
I'll have to look at those books myself! I absolutely adore the Atlas of Animal Anatomy, and should definitely look into the others. Thank you for mentioning them! : D
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Awesome, glad I could help you too!
There's one book I didn't mention, since it was actually recommended to me by him, and it'sΒ Animal Anatomy for Artists: The Elements of Form, if you didn't already know about it. It's really nice, and I think it goes into details about each muscle and its function. I had it before, but I gave it to a local library a while ago, which I still regret to this day, whoops...
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Ooooh - details about each muscle and its function?? Does it cover subsurface/deep musculature, or just superficial musculature? In either case, that sounds amazing!!
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I have no idea, I only ever looked at the full-bodied pictures. :/ But according to the description:Β Included are drawings of skeletons and how they move at the joints, individual muscles showing their attachments on the skeleton, muscles of the entire animal, cross sections, photographs of live animals, and silhouettes of related animals comparing their shapes and proportions.
Β Also, if you're interested in human anatomy, I know some pretty great books which definitely do cover both superficial and deep muscles.
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Holy crap.... I need that book!!! SO BAD!
Thank you for letting me know about this!! : D *goes on a hunt for awesometastic animal anatomy books*
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Character looks quite interesting. I like this idea
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Thank you.
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