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Published: 2017-05-29 00:13:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 541; Favourites: 21; Downloads: 0
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Description The whole croc-lip D. horneri is a crock of shite, the supposed evidence does not substantiate the authour's claims in my personal opinion.
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Comments: 19

Nazrindi [2017-05-29 20:26:17 +0000 UTC]

Despite the mouth looking a bit strange, I love how you drew the eye in this as well as the texture above and around the eyes.

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LythroA In reply to Nazrindi [2017-05-29 22:13:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! The whole point of the odd mouth however was to communicate visually how unnatural and ridiculous the claims are.

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Xiphactinus [2017-05-29 06:05:49 +0000 UTC]

Maybe this version is wrong, but it's definitely more plausible than a mammal-like lips by Nash.

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LythroA In reply to Xiphactinus [2017-05-29 11:29:22 +0000 UTC]

Lizard-like lips look the most likely to me.

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Xiphactinus In reply to LythroA [2017-05-29 12:34:33 +0000 UTC]

In my opinion, more likely three versions: 1) with protruding teeth, but without the crocodile-like texture; 2) with lips like lizards; 3) with orca-like lips. I personally like 1 and 3 version. In any case, I really want to see in the future new information about it.   But they are clearly not mammal-like (dog-like) lips, and even more he could not to grin.

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Dontknowwhattodraw94 In reply to Xiphactinus [2017-05-29 19:57:49 +0000 UTC]

What do you mean with orca-like lips? Stiff tissue?

(the "mammal-like" lips by Nash are btw not like mammals, as in: they're not muscular or so)

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Xiphactinus In reply to Dontknowwhattodraw94 [2017-05-30 18:55:58 +0000 UTC]

The upper lip hides the teeth and the lower jaw is the growth of the soft tissues (the place of closing). You can look for pictures, if that.  

Maybe, but such big lips certainly was not. And especially if he has such big lips, no facial muscles can not do definitely.

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Dontknowwhattodraw94 In reply to Xiphactinus [2017-05-30 19:00:58 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see. 

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LythroA In reply to Dontknowwhattodraw94 [2017-05-29 20:05:41 +0000 UTC]

I could imagine stiff lips with a cartilaginous support under the skin, I think monitor lizards posses something similar.

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Dontknowwhattodraw94 In reply to LythroA [2017-05-29 20:08:12 +0000 UTC]

Ah, didn't know that. I always assumed it were just the scales that kept them stiff.

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Nazrindi In reply to Dontknowwhattodraw94 [2017-05-29 20:24:31 +0000 UTC]

No, that's not the case. If that were the case, then scaleless snakes and lizards would have droopy lips, but they still keep their shape even in scaleless specimens:
i.ytimg.com/vi/OWZcLuFH6rI/hqd… <-- Ball python without scales.
www.dachiu.com/gallery/silk66.… <-- Bearded dragon without scales.

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Dontknowwhattodraw94 In reply to Nazrindi [2017-05-29 20:29:48 +0000 UTC]

Cool, looks like lizard-type lips are still the most likely then.

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Nazrindi In reply to Dontknowwhattodraw94 [2017-05-29 20:39:45 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it seems like it.

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LythroA In reply to Xiphactinus [2017-05-29 12:44:34 +0000 UTC]

Orca-like lips sounds interesting, I'm going to have to look them up I cannot imagine the crocodilian lip idea, as the water-loss would be catastrophic for terrestrial animals.

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Xiphactinus In reply to LythroA [2017-05-29 13:08:56 +0000 UTC]

Crocodiles can be quite a long time to travel by land without bad effects on their teeth.

Interestingly, orca's, like most whales, the facial musculature is atrophied.

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katanarama13 [2017-05-29 01:29:59 +0000 UTC]

I'm curious as to why you believe that the croc lips aren't a well supported claim.

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LythroA In reply to katanarama13 [2017-05-29 01:32:33 +0000 UTC]

A more sensitive snout is a definite, but the tight, cracked looking skin of a crocodile follows the contours and cracks in the skull itself. The skull of D. horneri showed nothing of the sort.

The fact that the official reconstruction was featherless just sealed the deal.

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Lediblock2 In reply to LythroA [2017-05-29 15:18:20 +0000 UTC]

I think that that was more to show the skin textures.

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GreekRandomness In reply to Lediblock2 [2017-06-15 19:04:14 +0000 UTC]

Nah, it was scaly.

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